Steve Austin's criticism of Dolph Ziggler

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StoneColdMikey;7640255 said:
I agree. Noticed that in the ladder match he took too many bumps. Like Cmon

yeah...I reckon they were trying to over-emphasize the underdog factor since Harper was the bigger guy....

seems like they have turned the underdog shit to max with Zigs since Survivor Series
 
RawAce;7640264 said:
Yeah,

How the hell are u a showoff alpha male while also being an underdog

It's the stupid shit they keep doing with small guys where they keep being cast as underdogs. It's nonsense, at this rate Dolph is the next RVD.
 
They just need to give him another world championship run and stop making excuses for why he gets depushed.

Everybody wants to give a reason or a issue they find with a wrestler to why a wrestler isn't being pushed to the moon, when the bottom line is...

IF THE WWE WANTS YOU TO BE CHAMPION YOU WILL BE DESPITE ANY FLAWS. ASK ORTON, ASK CENA, ASK SID. Shit was Yokozuna any better than Dolph? Sure he was fat as shit but cmon.

Success always has and always will come down to politics and bullshit, you know it, they know it, we all do. The powers to be just don't want Dolph in that position, period and mask it under other bullshit that smarks will rationalize and eat up via dirtsheets.

Remember when we will all regurgitated the bullshit rationale that Shelton Benjamin didn't want "it" bad enough? I wonder how we all came up with that and actually passed that off as a "factually opinionated fact" in our collective heads...
 
Wrong, it's a hit or miss and only works on different matchups. Luke Harper needs a push just as much as Ziggler so no it doesn't work. That's like Shawn Michaels dominating over undertaker, it doesn't add up.

Cena should not be dominating matches against rising opponents neither. This is what makes him corny.

I think once a wrestler gets enough wins under his belt, he should not be an underdog in the match but it depends on who he's wrestling. DB and Ziggler should not be underdogs to a Ryback, Rusev, Reigns or Cesaro type wrestler. Luke Harper hopefully will transition to the next Undertaker but I'd like him to clean up, get rid of the beard and be the good guy one day.

I'm drunk, merry Christmas.
 
someone like Zigg needs to battle bigger wrestlers like Bret did when he wrestled Taker,Diesel,Yankeem, Yoko, Shango etc he made them look like beast but he would atleast get some offense in to be able to make it look legit if he ever put the Sharpshooter on them and beat them with it
 
You right. That would be dope. The thing is Bret was a more well rounded wrestler. He could make big guys submit but Ziggler doesn't have that technique and skill like Bret. He'd have to out maneuver them, I guess. This is easily what made Bret better than Michaels.
 
Dolph was an amateur wrestler so he has some knowledge of the basics, he can do some grappling if he needs to, it wouldn't take much to mix it into his game right now.

The problem is his major spots, which he has few other than his fame asser and his finisher. He also needs to work getting that classic babyface comeback sequence.

All that would instantly change perception.
 
jono;7655895 said:
Dolph was an amateur wrestler so he has some knowledge of the basics, he can do some grappling if he needs to, it wouldn't take much to mix it into his game right now.

The problem is his major spots, which he has few other than his fame asser and his finisher. He also needs to work getting that classic babyface comeback sequence.

All that would instantly change perception.

That clothesline of his where he does it twice, throws guy on turnbuckle and splashes on him, then a neckbreaker. Roars for the crowd to hype them up lol
 
i guess with most faces, it seems like their "desperation offense" comes after a certain point in the match, with dolph its seems like his "desperation offense" comes after the bell rings
 
Bartholomew_Jenkins;7655598 said:
Wrong, it's a hit or miss and only works on different matchups. Luke Harper needs a push just as much as Ziggler so no it doesn't work. That's like Shawn Michaels dominating over undertaker, it doesn't add up.

Cena should not be dominating matches against rising opponents neither. This is what makes him corny.

I think once a wrestler gets enough wins under his belt, he should not be an underdog in the match but it depends on who he's wrestling. DB and Ziggler should not be underdogs to a Ryback, Rusev, Reigns or Cesaro type wrestler. Luke Harper hopefully will transition to the next Undertaker but I'd like him to clean up, get rid of the beard and be the good guy one day.

I'm drunk, merry Christmas.
I think Luke Harper is the second coming of Bruiser Brody.... but with way more skill & agility.

 

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