Stephan Bailey(Brother of Frederick) descendants disowned Dr. Umar Johnson

[xxCivicxx]

I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

He said he's not doing it in America. He's doing it in Africa Ghana or Nigeria

Then why would black people in America fund him??? and since he already took our money doing the shit in Africa where it will be harder for these people to ensure the money is being spent correctly is only going to make him look even more shady and I doubt americans are going to send their children to school in ghana

Building the school in Africa will have it's cons and pros but that probably should have been his first idea

Thank you clearly admitting that you are against black empowerment

It took you long enough

You and Ajax are 2 sides to the same coin

 

[xxCivicxx]

I have been informed that you are now looking to build a school in Africa and have been speaking lately about “repatriation”. However, I have every reason to believe that you are looking for a country in Africa without an extradition treaty to take the money you have raised (stolen) and flee the US without criminal accountability of fraud and theft.

DAMN!

They posted it with no proof of any kind of nefarious acts, and they want y'all to eat it up like a soap opera instead of looking for the facts

 

[zzombie]

Just ignore this nigga

 

[Ajackson17]

Dr. Umar Johnson information was great, but he is slowly will fall into the abyss. People should have realized this when he dissed Sa Neter for being the one who brought him on. That was the first the hit and then attacking everyone who seem to ask him a question about anything. He just started getting into bigger and bigger problems and had no team behind him. Just did whatever

Once again, you are not an intellectual authority on anything so please stop speaking like you are

You seem to be preoccupied with slandering Umar Johnson, I've mentioned this in another thread of yours where you were posting gossip about that man, trying to destroy him exactly like a female would do

Just like I stated in the last thread, ONCE AGAIN there was nothing factual in what you posted, this is another gossip thread seeking Umar Johnson's attention

Last time it didn't end so well for you and your lipstick alley buddies

End well what lmao....

 

[Ajackson17]

Just ignore this nigga

Yeah, he didn't even have to post in this thread either. Just emotional now he is on block lol

 

[xxCivicxx]

Dr. Umar Johnson information was great, but he is slowly will fall into the abyss. People should have realized this when he dissed Sa Neter for being the one who brought him on. That was the first the hit and then attacking everyone who seem to ask him a question about anything. He just started getting into bigger and bigger problems and had no team behind him. Just did whatever

Once again, you are not an intellectual authority on anything so please stop speaking like you are

You seem to be preoccupied with slandering Umar Johnson, I've mentioned this in another thread of yours where you were posting gossip about that man, trying to destroy him exactly like a female would do

Just like I stated in the last thread, ONCE AGAIN there was nothing factual in what you posted, this is another gossip thread seeking Umar Johnson's attention

Last time it didn't end so well for you and your lipstick alley buddies

End well what lmao....

Link your other thread please

 

[xxCivicxx]

Just ignore this nigga

Yeah, he didn't even have to post in this thread either. Just emotional now he is on block lol

Nah, calling out stupidity/coonery gives me energy

Like I said before, you're a pseudo-intellectual and when I see you posting misinformation I will correct you

 

[Ajackson17]

You are not only a racist hate monger, you seem to disrespect and also hate women. You have brought disgrace to my family’s name by your public insults and humiliation of Khym Ringgold. Regardless of the occupation of Khym Ringgold, she is a woman, a mother, a daughter, and a sister. You have called her a “maggot in life,” “a tramp disguised as a queen,” and other insulting names. Frederick Douglass fought for the rights, humanity, and respect of all women.

I think this is very potent and she wasn't the only woman he disrespected. This is why he is losing numbers when dealing with many women because he doesn't respect them, but more or so a facade. I have many women tell me over the years that he was a misogynistic guy before I really peeped dude, the information was dope and great, but once you begin to peel back the layers there was always something off. We are not perfect by any means, but if many people keep saying something is off about dude, there should be some critical analysis of dude.

 

[xxCivicxx]

You are not only a racist hate monger, you seem to disrespect and also hate women. You have brought disgrace to my family’s name by your public insults and humiliation of Khym Ringgold. Regardless of the occupation of Khym Ringgold, she is a woman, a mother, a daughter, and a sister. You have called her a “maggot in life,” “a tramp disguised as a queen,” and other insulting names. Frederick Douglass fought for the rights, humanity, and respect of all women.

I think this is very potent and she wasn't the only woman he disrespected. This is why he is losing numbers when dealing with many women because he doesn't respect them, but more or so a facade. I have many women tell me over the years that he was a misogynistic guy before I really peeped dude, the information was dope and great, but once you begin to peel back the layers there was always something off. We are not perfect by any means, but if many people keep saying something is off about dude, there should be some critical analysis of dude.

More general propaganda

Please give specific examples when you make wild claims

 

[Ajackson17]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

 

[D. Morgan]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

 

[Ajackson17]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

Well, Umar is always talking about Elders this and Elders that from an African perspective in which case he would need to consult the elders if he is African centered. Not using the elders is Western ideology, in the East the elders rule.

 

[D. Morgan]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

Well, Umar is always talking about Elders this and Elders that from an African perspective in which case he would need to consult the elders if he is African centered. Not using the elders is Western ideology, in the East the elders rule.

Using elders and asking for a blessing from them that you are just as much a part of as them is totally different.

Like I said family is family I don't need nobody blessing to speak on my family.

 

[zzombie]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

Well, Umar is always talking about Elders this and Elders that from an African perspective in which case he would need to consult the elders if he is African centered. Not using the elders is Western ideology, in the East the elders rule.

YEAH but quite frankly fuck the elders the mistakes of the elders are why we are so fucked up now

 

[Ajackson17]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

Well, Umar is always talking about Elders this and Elders that from an African perspective in which case he would need to consult the elders if he is African centered. Not using the elders is Western ideology, in the East the elders rule.

Using elders and asking for a blessing from them that you are just as much a part of as them is totally different.

Like I said family is family I don't need nobody blessing to speak on my family.

I can see why the family is mad, because he is selling Frederick Douglass and Stephan Bailey as props for his purposes. I can see why the family would be pissed. They can't really do nothing, but can sue though I believe, I might be wrong on that.

 

[Ajackson17]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

Well, Umar is always talking about Elders this and Elders that from an African perspective in which case he would need to consult the elders if he is African centered. Not using the elders is Western ideology, in the East the elders rule.

YEAH but quite frankly fuck the elders the mistakes of the elders are why we are so fucked up now

Everyone makes mistakes and it's not like you have a play book in life, you just try to make the best of the situation and uplift yourself and those around you the best you can.

 

[zzombie]

And lets be honest both the douglas family and the bailey family are diametrically opposed the to social and political positions that umar represents

Umar is on some garvey pan-Africanist side and the bailey family sounds they are integrationist

 

[Ajackson17]

And lets be honest both the douglas family and the bailey family are diametrically opposed the to social and political positions that umar represents

Umar is on some garvey pan-Africanist side and the bailey family sounds they are integrationist

Coming from a historical ties being integrationists then I see why their view of Umar is that he is dangerous. Pan-Africanism is looked down upon integrationists and considered irrational. This is part of it and the other part is that he is selling their ancestors in such a way that is deemed disrespectful.

 

[blackrain]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

I agree you don't need permission to speak on family...only problem is in this instance the family Umar is speaking on is saying he's not part of that family....

 

[xxCivicxx]

Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.

He never needed to do it and he didn't contact the elders of the family to get their blessings. This should be a small footnote to his legacy not his legacy.

I can't speak for him and his real ties to that family. But for me I'm not calling no fucking body and asking for their blessing when it comes to speaking on my family.

Family is family I don't need a blessing to speak on my own shit. Those people crazy as shit for that IMO.

I agree you don't need permission to speak on family...only problem is in this instance the family Umar is speaking on is saying he's not part of that family....

Without providing any proof to their claim