Stephan Bailey(Brother of Frederick) descendants disowned Dr. Umar Johnson

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Umar Johnson, by claiming to be a Bailey, you have brought dishonor to my family’s name. A family in which you are NOT a part of. In a phone conversation with you recently, I respectfully asked you why the wisdom of my elders was not consulted before using the family name in what has become a personal money making scheme on your part. I asked you about your academic credentials which the public has rightfully questioned. You have not verified any of your academic credentials to any of your supporters. I also asked you about your alleged lineage in my family. Your answers were insufficient at best and internet based research at worst. The next day, you referred to me as a “flunky” on your Facebook page, but you didn’t answer my questions. After speaking with you and reading your reference to me as a “flunky,” my concerns and suspicions increased dramatically as I did more research into your many disgraceful controversies. Your wrongs have been many and your dishonor of the Bailey family name and lineage can no longer be tolerated.

You promote racial division and hatred. This is neither the character of the Bailey family nor Frederick Douglass. Our family fought against racial hatred and slavery. Our family inspired the Civil Rights Movement. Our family does not represent the racial division and hatred which you so arrogantly bloviate speech after speech all around the country. The School District of Philadelphia recently banned you from speaking at their schools and I congratulate them. I pray that others follow their wise decision to end your divisive hate speeches. No sensible person should trust you with their money or children in a school, bus trip, tour, or anywhere else.

You are not only a racist hate monger, you seem to disrespect and also hate women. You have brought disgrace to my family’s name by your public insults and humiliation of Khym Ringgold. Regardless of the occupation of Khym Ringgold, she is a woman, a mother, a daughter, and a sister. You have called her a “maggot in life,” “a tramp disguised as a queen,” and other insulting names. Frederick Douglass fought for the rights, humanity, and respect of all women. You do not walk in his footsteps. He would not accept your public insults and humiliation of any woman, including Khym Ringgold, especially while using his name for personal profit gain. If my Great Uncle, Frederick Douglass, were alive today, I am sure he would publicly denounce you and your actions. Also, you have preyed on the vulnerability of single women around the country. Many have complained about your insulting advances toward them in social media. Frederick Douglass would not have condoned your actions in his time. The Bailey family elders and the Bailey men do not condone your actions today. It is my honor to be charged with denouncing you.

Umar Johnson, you talk in circles and often contradict yourself. You hung up on a female caller in a live radio interview because she asked you about your financial transparency while raising money to purchase and open a school which you have failed to do. The deadline for the school’s purchase was August 21, 2014. Two years past the deadline, you still did not open a school, but you are collecting money without telling people where the money is going! In a presentation, you complained to your supporters that they were “trifling ass Black people” for not giving you more money although you had already received a quarter million dollars from them and have shown no accountability. You have made insults and threats to any and everyone who dares question your credentials and fundraising activity. This tough guy persona is not how a scholar or someone who claims to have a doctorate of psychology would conduct himself. If people were questioning your credentials and you did in fact have these credentials, then you would have provided them to the public like you do with your promotions of speaking engagements. If you have not spent the public’s money which you have raised specifically for the school, you would have given your supporters financial transparency. I have been informed that you are now looking to build a school in Africa and have been speaking lately about “repatriation”. However, I have every reason to believe that you are looking for a country in Africa without an extradition treaty to take the money you have raised (stolen) and flee the US without criminal accountability of fraud and theft.

Lastly, you run around the country and to other countries claiming that you are a member of the Bailey family. For years, you had not corrected people when they stated you were a descendant of Frederick Douglass. You claim to be a descendant of Stephen Bailey, brother and cousin of Frederick Douglass. However, while people have questioned you about these claims, you have refused to provide documented evidence such as birth certificates, wedding records, obituaries, or anything else that makes you a member of my family. My cousin, Kenneth Morris, published a Public Statement from the Frederick Douglass Family Initiatives that your claims of being a member of our family are undocumented and he factually stated that you are not in the archives of the Frederick Douglass National Historic Site. You responded to my cousin, Kenneth Morris, with childish insults and immature name calling. Ken is a highly respected member and international representative of our family and your insults to him were intolerable and unacceptable to all Baileys and to all who respect our family. The time of your disgracing the Bailey family is over.

I speak the following declarations on behalf of the elders of my family from the authority they have granted me for such purpose. I hereby declare that you, Umar Johnson, are a disgrace to the Bailey family’s name, lineage, and elders. I hereby declare you are guilty of misuse and fraudulent use of my family name. You are not a validated and documented member of my family. If you were such, I hereby declare from the authority of my elders that you would be disowned due to your disgrace of my family name and lineage. You are hereby directed to return all monies you have collected using my family’s name for your fraudulent school which had a deadline of August 2014. I encourage anyone who donated to your devious scheme to seek full refunds or report you to the proper authorities if you have spent their money intended for a school. You are also directed to either prove or stop claiming yourself a member of the Bailey family. You are advised not to flee the US seeking an extradition treaty for fraud and theft. You are advised to hold yourself accountable, not as a Bailey which you are not, but as a man which you should act like.
http://afrikan-resistance.blogspot.com/2016/06/declaration-from-elders-of-bailey.html
 
R.D.;9116348 said:
We already saw this story and talked about it

No one cares

That's with the Douglass family, this is with Stephan Bailey descendants who Umar is claiming actual ancestry with.

And the date was this weekend.
 
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Oh well...

I never really saw the purpose of umar bringing that up in the first place, even if true. Why claim family you aren't around other than to stir up shit? It's like when ppl get famous then all of a sudden "family" they never met, seen or heard about talkin bout we go way back.
 
Dr. Umar Johnson information was great, but he is slowly will fall into the abyss. People should have realized this when he dissed Sa Neter for being the one who brought him on. That was the first the hit and then attacking everyone who seem to ask him a question about anything. He just started getting into bigger and bigger problems and had no team behind him. Just did whatever
 
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running
 
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

Also, with that capital why didn't he get a investment loan?
 
Ajackson17;9116461 said:
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

Also, with that capital why didn't he get a investment loan?

No institution would give him money for what he wants to do especially him being who he is saying the kinds of things he says, plus I imagine that a school would be run at a loss for a long time before things even out.
 
zzombie;9116485 said:
Ajackson17;9116461 said:
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

Also, with that capital why didn't he get a investment loan?

No institution would give him money for what he wants to do especially him being who he is saying the kinds of things he says, plus I imagine that a school would be run at a loss for a long time before things even out.

Right, this was a long term investment, not a short term one and people asking for a business plan for is a stretch?
 
Ajackson17;9116552 said:
zzombie;9116485 said:
Ajackson17;9116461 said:
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

Also, with that capital why didn't he get a investment loan?

No institution would give him money for what he wants to do especially him being who he is saying the kinds of things he says, plus I imagine that a school would be run at a loss for a long time before things even out.

Right, this was a long term investment, not a short term one and people asking for a business plan for is a stretch?

I don't think private schools give out business plans at least I've never heard of one doing so but I think they do have financial projections and budgets that they make know to the parents or the people funding the school
 
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zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

He said he's not doing it in America. He's doing it in Africa Ghana or Nigeria
 
En-Fuego22;9116589 said:
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

He said he's not doing it in America. He's doing it in Africa Ghana or Nigeria

Then why would black people in America fund him??? and since he already took our money doing the shit in Africa where it will be harder for these people to ensure the money is being spent correctly is only going to make him look even more shady and I doubt americans are going to send their children to school in ghana

Building the school in Africa will have it's cons and pros but that probably should have been his first idea
 
Ajackson17;9116372 said:
R.D.;9116348 said:
We already saw this story and talked about it

No one cares

That's with the Douglass family, this is with Stephan Bailey descendants who Umar is claiming actual ancestry with.

And the date was this weekend.

Fuck shit is fuck shit is fuck shit

Y'all really care about stupid shit like this?
 
zzombie;9116585 said:
Ajackson17;9116552 said:
zzombie;9116485 said:
Ajackson17;9116461 said:
zzombie;9116434 said:
I really don't care I am more concerned about the fact that he seems to be making no progress on attaining the building for his school... I've never given him any money but I would if he actually manages to get the school up and running

Also, with that capital why didn't he get a investment loan?

No institution would give him money for what he wants to do especially him being who he is saying the kinds of things he says, plus I imagine that a school would be run at a loss for a long time before things even out.

Right, this was a long term investment, not a short term one and people asking for a business plan for is a stretch?

I don't think private schools give out business plans at least I've never heard of one doing so but I think they do have financial projections and budgets that they make know to the parents or the people funding the school

Ooh okay I got you. But at least something tangible brought to the table at the very least.
 
R.D.;9116617 said:
Ajackson17;9116372 said:
R.D.;9116348 said:
We already saw this story and talked about it

No one cares

That's with the Douglass family, this is with Stephan Bailey descendants who Umar is claiming actual ancestry with.

And the date was this weekend.

Fuck shit is fuck shit is fuck shit

Y'all really care about stupid shit like this?

If you invested then you should care or planning on investing then you should care of you are doing your research. I personally desire o see black schools with great curriculums being built to uplift our children in the 21st century to be able to have a strong chance against the global world and market.
 
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I have been informed that you are now looking to build a school in Africa and have been speaking lately about “repatriation”. However, I have every reason to believe that you are looking for a country in Africa without an extradition treaty to take the money you have raised (stolen) and flee the US without criminal accountability of fraud and theft.

DAMN!
 
Ajackson17;9116425 said:
Dr. Umar Johnson information was great, but he is slowly will fall into the abyss. People should have realized this when he dissed Sa Neter for being the one who brought him on. That was the first the hit and then attacking everyone who seem to ask him a question about anything. He just started getting into bigger and bigger problems and had no team behind him. Just did whatever

Once again, you are not an intellectual authority on anything so please stop speaking like you are

You seem to be preoccupied with slandering Umar Johnson, I've mentioned this in another thread of yours where you were posting gossip about that man, trying to destroy him exactly like a female would do

Just like I stated in the last thread, ONCE AGAIN there was nothing factual in what you posted, this is another gossip thread seeking Umar Johnson's attention

Last time it didn't end so well for you and your lipstick alley buddies
 
R.D.;9116617 said:
Ajackson17;9116372 said:
R.D.;9116348 said:
We already saw this story and talked about it

No one cares

That's with the Douglass family, this is with Stephan Bailey descendants who Umar is claiming actual ancestry with.

And the date was this weekend.

Fuck shit is fuck shit is fuck shit

Y'all really care about stupid shit like this?

Ajackson cares because he's a gossip queen

He's rehasing the exact same gossip thread from before
 
Ajackson17;9116663 said:
R.D.;9116617 said:
Ajackson17;9116372 said:
R.D.;9116348 said:
We already saw this story and talked about it

No one cares

That's with the Douglass family, this is with Stephan Bailey descendants who Umar is claiming actual ancestry with.

And the date was this weekend.

Fuck shit is fuck shit is fuck shit

Y'all really care about stupid shit like this?

If you invested then you should care or planning on investing then you should care of you are doing your research. I personally desire o see black schools with great curriculums being built to uplift our children in the 21st century to be able to have a strong chance against the global world and market.

You said this same goofy shit in the last thread and I'm gonna say the same thing I said: Umar Johnson DOES keep his investors up to date. Stop speaking on things that you don't know about

And stop making redundant threads smh
 

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