Staying in the Hood.

[konceptjones]

Im 5 mins away from MLK

^^^ "In the heart of the hood" post

You live near MLK and Washington??? 'Cause MLK and Washington in EVERY hood where they cross is usually the hoodest of hood spots.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Back to cooning I see... I hope your white friends slip rat poison into your watermelon... Yabish...

I have black friends who have families and who are legal.

I hope your black friends make racist jokes about u to your white friends when u r not around...

Why you hate me?

I only hate cops bruh... We cool...

 

[twatgetta]

@msjones you can't assume things are gonna be bad if you move, but you DO have to consider the alternative of having to get "that call" while you at work one day. the choice is yours. People can't allow circumstances and fear restrain them. If you live in a hood that has the potential for death each and every night, GET OUT. Why risk the bullshit for the sake of "keeping it real"? Have you ever wondered that some people LIKE living like that? Drama 24/7?

 

[Crude_]

Most Black people don't leave because affordable housing is usually in the seedier areas of town.

A lot of yall are saying just get up and leave but sometimes that isn't a good option especially when your home and property are paid for.

Every one doesn't have the funds to sustain a mortgage and there are also those individuals who were born and raised in certain communities.

When a house or property has been passed down several generations then the probability of it being sold isn't high.

Also when Blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities begin to move to certain areas the Whites start to move away then some minorities neglect or don't keep up their properties causing blight which also drives down property value brings in undesirables.

 

[Knock_Twice]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

 

[leftcoastkev]

Why do good upstanding black families still raise their children in the "hood"? In Chicago there have been a number of teenagers murdered this year where when you see their parents it just doesn't add up. If there are two parents in the household and you both have decent jobs why not move somewhere safe? Why put your kids in harms way if you don't have to. I don't see it.

Being cheap

-you get what you pay for

Being so used to your surroundings you either don't want to or are scared to elevate beyond it

-fear of flying

Some people make good money but still have a ton of debt

-all that glitters ain't gold

Some people make good money but don't prioritize correctly

-a fool and his money will surely depart

 

[konceptjones]

Most Black people don't leave because affordable housing is usually in the seedier areas of town.

A lot of yall are saying just get up and leave but sometimes that isn't a good option especially when your home and property are paid for.

Every one doesn't have the funds to sustain a mortgage and there are also those individuals who were born and raised in certain communities.

When a house or property has been passed down several generations then the probability of it being sold isn't high.

Also when Blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities begin to move to certain areas the Whites start to move away then some minorities neglect or don't keep up their properties causing blight which also drives down property value brings in undesirables.

Nobody said run out and get a mortgage. Shit, I'm renting right now but we're looking towards the next house.

You got cats that live in the hood with high ass car notes and shit, spending $$$ on expensive clothes and whatnot. Prioritize properly and you can have the money to get out of the hood. You just have to lose the hood mentality to see what's really important. Keeping your kids safe should be your #1 priority, not coppin foams or jordans!

 

[Knock_Twice]

Up and moving isn't for everybody...I tip my hat to those who can but to say to up and move into a 150,000 house tomorrow or 4 months down the line is cray. Credit score factor in and again you stated that it can be fixed..of course it can..but how long and how much money does it take for a person to fix their credit that's problem in the lower 400 or 300 hunnids?..and when it's fixed whose to say that they'll still get approve for the amount that's needed to move into that 150,000 house in that good area...I mean it's timing and planning that's needed to be factored in..and again we are speaking about ppl that live in the 'hood'....A normal person or a person who has some sense of going about and doing this...it may take a lil less time, but a typical person from the hood, just up and moving..that'll take some time to do...Even ball players who make it too the NFL, NBA, MLB, 90% of the time...mother working 3 jobs or whatnot..Dad working 2 jobs or whatever the case...they have to stay in that environment becuz of their resources that they have..If you have a kid that's a 5 star project..I would think that the parents would want their son to go to the best H.S. or whatnot, they would do all they could to move to that good area, but guess what, they can't becuz of the means and income they have, to just up and move...That's why you see when son gets to the pro stage, he brings his parents outta the hood..or a poverty area, most of time..you have some cases where the kids comes from a good area, but majority of the time, the family is living in a poverty area...Pick any of your favorite player...this was the case with them..

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

True.... nothing is the same for ALL of any race, but that is typically how they do things and how they come up.

The goal for most illegals is to have a better life, or they would have stayed in raggedy ass Mexico.

 

[konceptjones]

Up and moving isn't for everybody...I tip my hat to those who can but to say to up and move into a 150,000 house tomorrow or 4 months down the line is cray. Credit score factor in and again you stated that it can be fixed..of course it can..but how long and how much money does it take for a person to fix their credit that's problem in the lower 400 or 300 hunnids?..and when it's fixed whose to say that they'll still get approve for the amount that's needed to move into that 150,000 house in that good area...I mean it's timing and planning that's needed to be factored in..and again we are speaking about ppl that live in the 'hood'....A normal person or a person who has some sense of going about and doing this...it may take a lil less time, but a typical person from the hood, just up and moving..that'll take some time to do...Even ball players who make it too the NFL, NBA, MLB, 90 of time...mother working 3 jobs or whatnot...they have to stay in that environment becuz of their resources that they have..If you have a kid that's a 5 star project..I would think that the parents would want their son to go to the best H.S. or whatnot, they would do all they could to move to that good area, but guess what, they can't becuz of the means and income they have, to just up and move...That's why you see when son gets to the pro stage, he brings his parents outta the hood..or a poverty area, most of time..you have some cases where the kids comes from a good area, but majority of the time, the family is living in a poverty area...Pick any of your favorite player...this was the case with them..

Again, nobody said just up and buy a crib like that. You can rent in nicer areas and have peace of mind until you can build your way up into owning a house. There were points in time where we struggled to keep the roof over our heads and keep the lights/gas/water on but it was completely worth it to keep the kids out of fucked up neighborhoods.

 

[Knock_Twice]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

True.... nothing is the same for ALL of any race, but that is typically how they do things and how they come up.

The goal for most illegals is to have a better life, or they would have stayed in raggedy ass Mexico.

Oh most def...They strive for their kids to have a better life...I agree...I think and this is me...being in America working over here is a better life/situation already...they consider that a win...even living in a poverty area but having more resources over here than what they had in Mexico is a plus...the ability to do more here 'now' is a win for Mexicans..so I see..once they get that low paying job, they're satisfied to a degree...and by them taking on any job for low pay can back up my statement and of course down the line knowing that their kids can get more that what they would have gotten in Mexico is even better..cherry on top..

Now for us blacks and I say us becuz I'm black lol..we take all those things for grant it per say..We so use to living within our means and having what we have and it's not like we don't wont our kid to have a better life, it's like we think we can get/have a better life with what is given to us already...We came from it and manage to do whatever is was we wanted to do and we think our kids will be the same...It's a major psychological difference in how we look at the picture and how Mexicans look at it...

 

[blackrain]

Im 5 mins away from MLK

^^^ "In the heart of the hood" post

You live near MLK and Washington??? 'Cause MLK and Washington in EVERY hood where they cross is usually the hoodest of hood spots.

In DC it's MLK and Malcom X that intersect..and yeah they're all fucked up lol

 

[Knock_Twice]

Up and moving isn't for everybody...I tip my hat to those who can but to say to up and move into a 150,000 house tomorrow or 4 months down the line is cray. Credit score factor in and again you stated that it can be fixed..of course it can..but how long and how much money does it take for a person to fix their credit that's problem in the lower 400 or 300 hunnids?..and when it's fixed whose to say that they'll still get approve for the amount that's needed to move into that 150,000 house in that good area...I mean it's timing and planning that's needed to be factored in..and again we are speaking about ppl that live in the 'hood'....A normal person or a person who has some sense of going about and doing this...it may take a lil less time, but a typical person from the hood, just up and moving..that'll take some time to do...Even ball players who make it too the NFL, NBA, MLB, 90 of time...mother working 3 jobs or whatnot...they have to stay in that environment becuz of their resources that they have..If you have a kid that's a 5 star project..I would think that the parents would want their son to go to the best H.S. or whatnot, they would do all they could to move to that good area, but guess what, they can't becuz of the means and income they have, to just up and move...That's why you see when son gets to the pro stage, he brings his parents outta the hood..or a poverty area, most of time..you have some cases where the kids comes from a good area, but majority of the time, the family is living in a poverty area...Pick any of your favorite player...this was the case with them..

Again, nobody said just up and buy a crib like that. You can rent in nicer areas and have peace of mind until you can build your way up into owning a house. There were points in time where we struggled to keep the roof over our heads and keep the lights/gas/water on but it was completely worth it to keep the kids out of fucked up neighborhoods.

Mayne I tip my hat off to you doing what you had to do, it just how folks mind-set are and it's not necessary the "hood" that cause crimes...Again Crime happens everywhere

Take for instance...Hurricane Katrina, remember when the N.O. folks were scattered across the country, most went to TX, some to GA, some to Detroit and other areas...some ppl here were saying it was a blessing for us to come outta the bricks and go else where and start a new life, these areas where "good" areas that ppl were displaced in, some were poverty areas but what really happened, the areas that we settled in...crime went up....TX ngas were gettin murked, GA and other areas crime went up, so again ppl left the hood and went to these other "good" areas, but what happened???

 

[konceptjones]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

Bruh, Mexicans start in those areas with the intent on getting out. When I first got to PHX, the sub we lived in was mostly Mexican with a few black and white families thrown in. My Mexican neighbors usually worked in a skilled trade and most started out as illegals. If you spoke to them they had similar stories: Came illegally, worked day labor, copped a 1 room spot in the hood, saved money by taking the bus, moved up into a better apartment as money came, eventually copped a struggle car, kept saving, found a trade and stuck with it, and eventually ended up where they were at.

Black folks really need to adopt some of their principals to get up out the hood and better themselves. I know there's always gonna be people that refuse to leave, but for those that want to go and money is their only excuse, they need to strip their lives to the very basics to save and get out.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

Bruh, Mexicans start in those areas with the intent on getting out. When I first got to PHX, the sub we lived in was mostly Mexican with a few black and white families thrown in. My Mexican neighbors usually worked in a skilled trade and most started out as illegals. If you spoke to them they had similar stories: Came illegally, worked day labor, copped a 1 room spot in the hood, saved money by taking the bus, moved up into a better apartment as money came, eventually copped a struggle car, kept saving, found a trade and stuck with it, and eventually ended up where they were at.

Black folks really need to adopt some of their principals to get up out the hood and better themselves. I know there's always gonna be people that refuse to leave, but for those that want to go and money is their only excuse, they need to strip their lives to the very basics to save and get out.

Black immigrants do the same

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

Up and moving isn't for everybody...I tip my hat to those who can but to say to up and move into a 150,000 house tomorrow or 4 months down the line is cray. Credit score factor in and again you stated that it can be fixed..of course it can..but how long and how much money does it take for a person to fix their credit that's problem in the lower 400 or 300 hunnids?..and when it's fixed whose to say that they'll still get approve for the amount that's needed to move into that 150,000 house in that good area...I mean it's timing and planning that's needed to be factored in..and again we are speaking about ppl that live in the 'hood'....A normal person or a person who has some sense of going about and doing this...it may take a lil less time, but a typical person from the hood, just up and moving..that'll take some time to do...Even ball players who make it too the NFL, NBA, MLB, 90 of time...mother working 3 jobs or whatnot...they have to stay in that environment becuz of their resources that they have..If you have a kid that's a 5 star project..I would think that the parents would want their son to go to the best H.S. or whatnot, they would do all they could to move to that good area, but guess what, they can't becuz of the means and income they have, to just up and move...That's why you see when son gets to the pro stage, he brings his parents outta the hood..or a poverty area, most of time..you have some cases where the kids comes from a good area, but majority of the time, the family is living in a poverty area...Pick any of your favorite player...this was the case with them..

Again, nobody said just up and buy a crib like that. You can rent in nicer areas and have peace of mind until you can build your way up into owning a house. There were points in time where we struggled to keep the roof over our heads and keep the lights/gas/water on but it was completely worth it to keep the kids out of fucked up neighborhoods.

Mayne I tip my hat off to you doing what you had to do, it just how folks mind-set are and it's not necessary the "hood" that cause crimes...Again Crime happens everywhere

Take for instance...Hurricane Katrina, remember when the N.O. folks were scattered across the country, most went to TX, some to GA, some to Detroit and other areas...some ppl here were saying it was a blessing for us to come outta the bricks and go else where and start a new life, these areas where "good" areas that ppl were displaced in, some were poverty areas but what really happened, the areas that we settled in...crime went up....TX ngas were gettin murked, GA and other areas crime went up, so again ppl left the hood and went to these other "good" areas, but what happened???

Bro... You mising the point ... We are talking about upstanding black folks not niggas that raise crime rates.

 

[Crude_]

@konceptjones in all due respect it really doesn't make sense to rent when you already "own"

Some people shelving out hundreds and even thousands of dollars "renting" something they'll never own.

That makes no sense to me if you own a house in the area.

Why should you pay and accue more of a financial deficit when already own property and/or a home over here.

It might not be safe as the next neighborhood nor is your home the best but at the end of the day it's yours so why sell or leave what you have to go pay for something that isn't yours?

I do agree that a lot Black folks put their money into things that don't and never will grow in value such as expensive cars, rims, tennis shoes, clothes and things of that nature.

A lot of cats do that and don't even have a place to lay their head at night.

While a lot of Black folks fit that mold there are a lot of other hard working Black folks that don't fit that mold.

I'll use my parents my for example I grew up in the country but it was in a part of town where the undesirables lived and hung out at.

About 10 years ago my mother got a better job and started stacking her bread.

She did this until she had a considerable savings account.

Her and my father just moved from that house on the undesirable side of town and into their new house they had built on several acres of property they own outside of town.

Mom and dad still own the old house and the property it's on and plan to rent it out.

Mom and dad like many other Blacks saved their money then moved.

Sometimes living in a undesirable area is a small price to pay when considering other options such as drowning in mortgage debt plus paying any other bills you may have such as utilities, fuel, insurance, car notes, groceries, etc.

 

[Mr.Bocario]

We need to understand what a hood is

Just because you have a group of black people living in a area, a couple of weed salers, and petty crimes doesn't mean it's a hood

 

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[konceptjones]

That's great. You found your slice of the pie and ate it. You lived in an area with a police station. I would hope crime would be low in that community. You also stated that the area you lived in was secluded, which means urban sprawl has yet to make a change. Should that ever happened, expect crime to go up.

This perceived notion of just getting up and getting gone is obsurd. Not everyone in America has the means to just' go'. Again, these areas may have started off great little working communities that happened to chage over time. And even though the area changed, doesn't mean that incomes of those that bought into it did. Case in point, here in Memphis there is an area called Southwind with homes ranging in the 150,000 to 250,000 area. The just built a housing project in the same area. Now, home sales in Memphis suck, and jobs aren't that plentiful. What should they do? Up and leave? Go to another location and call it a day?

Funny you mention it, my old community was a result of "urban sprawl". Metro Phoenix is one of the worst areas for urban sprawl in the country. It just so happens that this master planned community in particular was built up in the mountains.

You would be surprised at just how many people can "get up and go" if push comes to shove. I've known people move to different states with barely anything to their name and make shit happen for themselves. I've seen whole families make the decision to leave their cities behind because there were no jobs and crime was going up.

My family was one of them

We left the Metro Detroit area for Metro Phoenix for this very reason. The lil contract gig I had was coming to an end. I couldn't find a job for shit anywhere in the area. We peeped Orlando, SoCal, and Phoenix and settled on Phoenix, but we moved without having secured a job yet and only a handful of interviews lined up when I got out there. The first year or two was hard as fuck, but we managed and eventually did well out there. One of my sisters did the same thing with less than I had (moved to NC tho). My moms and her sister did it, and my cousins did it.

It's all about a willingness to make it. There's cats I run across where I'm at now that left their old hoods to try to make something better pop off for their families. Shit may start off rough, but if you keep at it you can make it.

Think of all the Mexicans that come here with barely a dime to their name and a year later they're doing better than the Americans they live around. Do they know something we don't?

They do... They know that making a better life for their families is ALL that matters. If they have to pay high ass "illegal" rent, work for less pay, and live with family to stack bread they will. We tend to have no unity and an uncanny ability to make excuses for ourselves.... So..... We stay in the hood and act like that's the shit to do.

Um folk...Mexicans stay in the hood too or in low poverty areas...They are not exempt...just becuz they don't stay in areas looked at to outsiders as the "Hood" they are in low poverty areas too...their crime may not be as reckless as per say a 3rd Ward Magnolia Project Area were (tore down) but the areas that Mexicans reside are not areas to just "up and move" too...They have their struggles still but less crime...To me their area is still considered the 'hood' just not a typical "black" hood...they don't have the same issues as per say a all black stricken hood...Lets not think Mexicans come over here and stay in "good" areas....Their area is just as bad as the "hood" just prolly with less crime...They still get rob and have issues there too

Bruh, Mexicans start in those areas with the intent on getting out. When I first got to PHX, the sub we lived in was mostly Mexican with a few black and white families thrown in. My Mexican neighbors usually worked in a skilled trade and most started out as illegals. If you spoke to them they had similar stories: Came illegally, worked day labor, copped a 1 room spot in the hood, saved money by taking the bus, moved up into a better apartment as money came, eventually copped a struggle car, kept saving, found a trade and stuck with it, and eventually ended up where they were at.

Black folks really need to adopt some of their principals to get up out the hood and better themselves. I know there's always gonna be people that refuse to leave, but for those that want to go and money is their only excuse, they need to strip their lives to the very basics to save and get out.

Black immigrants do the same

VERY true. PHX has a high population of Somalis there. They stay trying to get out the hood.