Statue of Liberty = Lucifer's shrine

[CrownChakra]

This is a lie...karl marx was not a mason.

Part of Illuminati

because whites are more dug in and if it anything that is really going on...trust me...groups of black people will be the last to know

so its not about being inferior...its more about having access to limited knowledge

Thank You. Its like being a Black Republican

Gunned up and clapped quicc.

Right, but everyone taking that pose happens to be part of the Illuminati/ Masons.

Illuminati barely create their own symbols because most of them associated with these groups have been taken from other cultures.

You can tell that dude is retarded since the Statue of Liberty is actually derived from statues of the classical goddess Nike.

Yea Im retarded, because the Statue of liberty is based off a God who personified Victory while she had wings and a feather in her hand. I guess you did you research without even looking at the statue. You must be on acid if you think they look the same.

Come on major... you know why.. the slave mentality still remains in the thought process of some folks.. if it ain't white it ain't right you know that lol...

Thats funny cause the house n igger mentality still exists also

 

[soul rattler]

Part of Illuminati

Thank You. Its like being a Black Republican

Right, but everyone taking that pose happens to be part of the Illuminati/ Masons.

Illuminati barely create their own symbols because most of them associated with these groups have been taken from other cultures.

Yea Im retarded, because the Statue of liberty is based off a God who personified Victory while she had wings and a feather in her hand. I guess you did you research without even looking at the statue. You must be on acid if you think they look the same.

Thats funny cause the house n igger mentality still exists also

So we'e established one thing at least: you refuse to answer why you believe you know so much without stepping foot in a lodge. That much is clear. So what is your purpose? What's your fascination with something you're not apart of? Seems like the only person you're trying to convince of your retarded ass conspiracy is yourself.

 

[major pain]

Part of Illuminati - ok go ahead and prove it

Thank You. Its like being a Black Republican - ridiculous

Right, but everyone taking that pose happens to be part of the Illuminati/ Masons. - try proving this

Illuminati barely create their own symbols because most of them associated with these groups have been taken from other cultures. - there are very few original symbols

Yea Im retarded, because the Statue of liberty is based off a God who personified Victory while she had wings and a feather in her hand. I guess you did you research without even looking at the statue. You must be on acid if you think they look the same.

Thats funny cause the house n igger mentality still exists also - are you under 21?

Seriously.. you're not built for a discussion with the adults.

 

[CrownChakra]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yea because people on this site act like adults. This thread alone proved how skeptics act childish during these topics so WTF are you talking about?

So we'e established one thing at least: you refuse to answer why you believe you know so much without stepping foot in a lodge. That much is clear. So what is your purpose? What's your fascination with something you're not apart of? Seems like the only person you're trying to convince of your retarded ass conspiracy is yourself.

I didnt refuse to answer shit. Who the fuck asked me? But to answer your question many people see Symbolism yall gumps refuse to acknowledge or cant even fathom the significance which is in plain sight. THere is so much sources of info out there but it will always be viewed as not credible so I dont care if you believe me or not, I know whats going on. If you refuse to believe it thats OK I wont lose sleep over it.

 

[soul rattler]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yea because people on this site act like adults. This thread alone proved how skeptics act childish during these topics so WTF are you talking about?

Because of Symbolism yall gumps refuse to see or acknowledge which is in plain sight. THere is so much sources of info out there but it will always be viewed as not credible so I dont care if you believe me or not, I know whats going on. If you refuse to believe it thats OK I wont lose sleep over it.

Of course we acknowledge symbolism. The difference between you and "us" is that you're trying to tie everything together because of a couple similarities and coincidences.

 

[CrownChakra]

Of course we acknowledge symbolism. The difference between you and "us" is that you're trying to tie everything together because of a couple similarities and coincidences.

Its more then a couple thats for damn sure.

There are way more pictures then the ones I posted.

Entertainment industry uses the same type of symbols all the time across all genres and most artists within the genres in their videos. Def more then a couple

Every time hand signs that world leaders, entertainers, businessmen and religious figures use is called a coincidence all the time.

To many coincidences to mean nothing in my opinion. But Im just a conspiracy theorists my opinion doesn't matter to some of yall. To bad for yall gumps

 

[major pain]

Its more then a couple thats for damn sure.

There are way more pictures then the ones I posted.

Entertainment industry uses the same type of symbols all the time across all genres and most artists within the genres in their videos. Def more then a couple

Every time hand signs that world leaders, entertainers, businessmen and religious figures use is called a coincidence all the time.

To many coincidences to mean nothing in my opinion. But Im just a conspiracy theorists my opinion doesn't matter to some of yall. To bad for yall gumps

Yes, yes, look at all these conclusive points of interest.

 

[PLASTIC RULES]

Right, but everyone taking that pose happens to be part of the Illuminati/ Masons.

Illuminati barely create their own symbols because most of them associated with these groups have been taken from other cultures

lol i'm still rollin at the "hidden hand" shit bein some illuminati signal.

Miller points out that the 'hand-in' portrait type appeared with "relentless frequency" during the eighteenth century and became almost a cliched pose in portrait painting.

*waits for dude to pretend like he didn't see that.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

its because niggas was reachin for they gats

 

[soul rattler]

Its more then a couple thats for damn sure.

There are way more pictures then the ones I posted.

Entertainment industry uses the same type of symbols all the time across all genres and most artists within the genres in their videos. Def more then a couple

Every time hand signs that world leaders, entertainers, businessmen and religious figures use is called a coincidence all the time.

To many coincidences to mean nothing in my opinion. But Im just a conspiracy theorists my opinion doesn't matter to some of yall. To bad for yall gumps

So what you're saying is, lots and lots of people throughout time and societies use similar symbols, right? I'm not saying that you don't have a slightest bit of reason to suspect things, but there isn't any concrete proof to support your speculation... so why believe it to be fact? And why must it always come back to Freemasons and Illuminus lol why not some other organizations?

 

[Mr. 66Hundred]

So what you're saying is, lots and lots of people throughout time and societies use similar symbols, right? I'm not saying that you don't have a slightest bit of reason to suspect things, but there isn't any concrete proof to support your speculation... so why believe it to be fact? And why must it always come back to Freemasons and Illuminus lol why not some other organizations?

Because Freemasons and the Illuminati are the flavor of the month... they are the ones being demonized in the media

nobody noticed or gave a fucc about these "symbols" until the Jiggaman and Kanyeezy started up all this controversy

oh and Professor Griff from Public Enemy

 

[CrownChakra]

lol i'm still rollin at the "hidden hand" shit bein some illuminati signal.

*waits for dude to pretend like he didn't see that.

I did see it and already addressed it. You quoted me.

It happened to be popular in the 18th centenary, hmmmmmmmmmm

You guys ignored a few points of mine you dont see me crying.

So what you're saying is, lots and lots of people throughout time and societies use similar symbols, right? I'm not saying that you don't have a slightest bit of reason to suspect things, but there isn't any concrete proof to support your speculation... so why believe it to be fact? And why must it always come back to Freemasons and Illuminus lol why not some other organizations?

I never said they are the only organization. But when it comes to the symbolism they are the most common denominator.

Because Freemasons and the Illuminati are the flavor of the month... they are the ones being demonized in the media

nobody noticed or gave a fucc about these "symbols" until the Jiggaman and Kanyeezy started up all this controversy

oh and Professor Griff from Public Enemy

Wrong they didn't start up the controversy, its been there for years but since they did it it got the rap world talking about it again with more intensity.

Professor Griff has been talking about this stuff for years.

Its your own fault that your catching on now.

 

[UPTOWN]

I don't speak on things in which I'm ignorant of. Does it just make you feel better to think that you know more about a conspiracy theory than anyone else? Cause all you're saying is "I know something you don't know therefore I refuse to engage you in a conversation that disproves what I supposedly know".

i asked you questions and then had to explain the answer ... why couldnt you answer right from the beginning?? furthermore, i have never spoken my beliefs once in this thread. yet again speaking on what you do not know. your problem is that you have a problem with those who dont follow everything you do on face value. i pointed out that you just brushing it off is silly considering those who dont believe it still respect it. that is all

it has already been agreed upon by me and you in this very conversation that it cant be proven or disproven, so what are you talking about my dude LOL ur hilarious

So, feel free to explain how being a person in power and being a freemason have anything to do with this supposed "infiltration" other than people making up stuff out of thin air. Ever considered that there are many more people in power that are NOT freemasons than there are? Talk about the facts and not speculation. I've had many discussions in this forum regarding this same subject, so this "do your research" shit is the normal cop-out people come up with when they know they cant prove what they are saying.

hmmmm lets see ... when did the illuminati first supposedly infiltrate the free masons??? who has been the most powerful people in the world since then?? how many US presidents out of the nearly 50 we have had were masons??

im done with yall two LOL THIS IS BASIC KNOWLEDGE THAT WE SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE TO DISCUSS IN THIS CONVERSATION IF YOU ARE KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT THE SUBJECT. HOW COULD YALL ASK SUCH STUPID QUESTIONS?? IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WOULDNT EVEN ASK THESE QUESTIONS!!! LOL this is proof that you just simply chose to not believe it. you did not research and then come up with a conclusion LOL. at this point, yall are just saving face because i pointed out your ignorance while you were lol'ing

this is like arguing micheal jordan with someone who has never even seen a basketball game. its like you're saying MJ is just some guy who has popular sneakers, then when i say "well it can be argued who the greatest player ever is, but MJ is much more than someone who just had popular, successful selling sneakers" .... then you say " well prove it" ... then i laugh and say " he won 6 nba championships !! who doesnt know that"

that is what this discussion has become. you simply dont know what you're talking about. you never researched both sides of the story, you were sonned into your beliefs just like a child born into a religious family LOL smh

 

[major pain]

hmmmm lets see ... when did the illuminati first supposedly infiltrate the free masons??? who has been the most powerful people in the world since then?? how many US presidents out of the nearly 50 we have had were masons??

i done with yall two LOL THIS IS BASIC KNOWLEDGE THAT WE SHOULDNT EVEN HAVE TO DISCUSS IN THIS CONVERSATION IF YOU ARE KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT THE SUBJECT. HOW COULD YALL ASK SUCH STUPID QUESTIONS?? IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU WOULDNT EVEN ASK THESE QUESTIONS!!! LOL this is proof that you just simply chose to not believe it. you did not research and then come up with a conclusion LOL. at this point, yall are just saving face because i pointed out your ignorance while you were lol'ing

this is like arguing micheal jordan with someone who has never even seen a basketball game. its like you're saying MJ is just some guy who has popular sneakers, then when i say "well it can be argued who the greatest player ever is, but MJ is much more than someone who just had popular, successful selling sneakers" .... then you say " well prove it" ... then i laugh and say " he won 6 nba championships !! who doesnt know that"

that is what this discussion has become. you simply dont know what you're talking about. you never researched both sides of the story, you were sonned into your beliefs just like a child born into a religious family LOL smh

Ok, obviously something that you dont realize by now. I am a freemason, for MANY years now. I actually KNOW both sides of the story, while you're stuck wondering what could have happened.

Supposed infiltration? late 1700s early 1800s when the Bavarian Illuminati disbanded.
Most powerful people? WTF does this even mean. In regards to what? Are you inferring most powerful people have been freemasons? Well you're flat out wrong.
How many presidents? 44 actual presidents. 15 were freemasons. The last was Gerald Ford. You havent seen a freemason president in 40+ years.

These are the FACTS not the bullshit you pull off of youtube and abovetopsecret. You're right this is a one-sided battle because you seriously have NO idea the amount of reading I've done regarding these subjects before and after I was raised.

 

[soul rattler]

I never said they are the only organization. But when it comes to the symbolism they are the most common denominator.

Did I say you said Freemasonry and Illuminati were the only organizations? And what are they the common denominator of? Your conspiracy detective web?

i asked you questions and then had to explain the answer ... why couldnt you answer right from the beginning?? furthermore, i have never spoken my beliefs once in this thread. yet again speaking on what you do not know. your problem is that you have a problem with those who dont follow everything you do on face value. i pointed out that you just brushing it off is silly considering those who dont believe it still respect it. that is all

it has already been agreed upon by me and you in this very conversation that it cant be proven or disproven, so what are you talking about my dude LOL ur hilarious

The hell is wrong with you fam? I already pointed out that you haven't stated your own personal beliefs. Yet you're still in here trying to defend an event in history that didn't happen. Nobody got infiltrated... that's what I KNOW and that's what you may or may not believe. I don't have to prove it because I'm not the one that said it in the first place. You brought it up and I called you out on it. Until you actually state your position, I have no reason to keep the convo going.

 

[Mr. 66Hundred]

Man for all ya'll niggas steady sayin "illuminati this, illuminati that, they infiltrated this and such and such is a member"

instead of talkin shit, why don't you do somethin to stop them.... or shut the fucc up

sittin around arguing about the shit is not gon stop them

me personally I don't give a fucc about the Illuminati... becuz in about 70 years( maybe sooner) I'll be dead... so it won't matter to me what they do

 

[janklow]

Gunned up and clapped quicc.

that's just a cover story. watch some Chuck Norris movies and it'll all make sense

This thread alone proved how skeptics act childish--

or you're saying that because they don't agree with you, and as we all know, in a contentious debate, insulting descriptions should be based on one's position, not one's behavior

 

[judahxulu]

Because Freemasons and the Illuminati are the flavor of the month... they are the ones being demonized in the media

nobody noticed or gave a fucc about these "symbols" until the Jiggaman and Kanyeezy started up all this controversy

oh and Professor Griff from Public Enemy

actually this shit been discussed waaaaay before jigga, ye and griff. i personally know a cat in the Zulu Nation been teaching about this for at least 12 years .

 

[cobbland]

For what it's worth

 

[alvarez_313]

For what it's worth

Sweet!!!! But the guy that owns the jet ski rental place in Barbados where this pic is from is a Mason, the symbol is on a few that can be rented.