Spin Off: Why do we pick and choose when we want to separate an artist s personal life and their art

[blackrain]

And also you proved my point with the bolded part of that quote

His life was attacked and put in jeopardy and he's still expected to be the always forgiving Uncle Tom that will apologize to the people beating the shit out of him while they're doing it

He IS the victim. He has no obligation to feel any remorse for the horrible human being that would destroy another person's life to conceal her own CONSENSUAL activities

How does that prove your point that I got his words wrong or that he's saying he's not a victim when he says it flat out. He's openly admitting he should've handled it differently and spelling out how he should have. He never once wavers from proclaiming his innocence, just saying he could've went about it in a much different way.

Once again, he has nothing to apologize for and he's not obligated to submit himself to a person that tried and failed to destroy his life

I don't get what you aren't understanding. You should watch the Dr Umar Johnson video posted in the other thread

All that truth might upset you though

Clearly he thinks he has something to apologize for based on his own words. I don't think you can tell him how to feel about a situation that has affected his life.

Clearly if he thought he had something to apologize for he would have done it by now

That's now true at all. People's opinions grow and change as they get older. Parker himself said he's different at 36 than 19 so once again ignoring Parker's own words about what he's learned about how his reaction to the situation could've been better

 

[Brother_Five]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

 

[Peace_79]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

 

[MR.CJ]

It's also funny that some of y'all wanna lean so heavy on being proven innocent in a court of law now when any other time it's fuck the system we can't trust it

Facts

 

[MR.CJ]

We are all hippocrites

Facts

 

[Brother_Five]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

lets be upfront about this exchange we about to have.

do u expect me to go thru all the comments/posts on this subject and provide evidence that SOME nignogs have suggested that his lack of contrition is the issue here?

if i did, would u apologize?

 

[powerman 5000]

Any mufucka that had shit to say about Bill Cosby better have their magazines loaded with the same ammo for Donald Trump.. No trial or convictions needed. There was no wait and see before.

 

[Peace_79]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

lets be upfront about this exchange we about to have.

do u expect me to go thru all the comments/posts on this subject and provide evidence that SOME nignogs have suggested that his lack of contrition is the issue here?

if i did, would u apologize?

Nah. No need for that.

And perhaps I was a bit presumptuous. Maybe for some here - contrition is the issue.

Let's just agree that my premise concerning the perspective of at least some of the women on the IC - has nothing to do with contrition.

So your blanket statement is disengenuous.

 

[Brother_Five]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

lets be upfront about this exchange we about to have.

do u expect me to go thru all the comments/posts on this subject and provide evidence that SOME nignogs have suggested that his lack of contrition is the issue here?

if i did, would u apologize?

Maybe for some here - contrition is the issue.

So your blanket statement is disengenuous.

but... u said... nah...

 

[blackgod813]

He fucked a cracker no love for the sistas after that

 

[Peace_79]

I don't believe anyone said that.

But, like you, I am not willing to dig through the entire thread to prove or disprove an ARBITRARY point.

You and I both know that your statement was meant to represent the concensus of opinions that do not reflect your own - including OB and "nignogs" that choose to voice an unpopular opinion.

You broadly painted that concensus to be -

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

Like I said.

That's disengenuous.

 

[Brother_Five]

Not sure why my sincerity is in question

Also, I clearly used the word some not all or most

I honestly think it's weird as fuck to expect someone to be remorseful for some shit they didn't do

 

[Peace_79]

Not sure why my sincerity is in question

Also, I clearly used the word some not all or most

I honestly think it's weird as fuck to expect someone to be remorseful for some shit they didn't do

So do I.

 

[xxCivicxx]

And also you proved my point with the bolded part of that quote

His life was attacked and put in jeopardy and he's still expected to be the always forgiving Uncle Tom that will apologize to the people beating the shit out of him while they're doing it

He IS the victim. He has no obligation to feel any remorse for the horrible human being that would destroy another person's life to conceal her own CONSENSUAL activities

How does that prove your point that I got his words wrong or that he's saying he's not a victim when he says it flat out. He's openly admitting he should've handled it differently and spelling out how he should have. He never once wavers from proclaiming his innocence, just saying he could've went about it in a much different way.

Once again, he has nothing to apologize for and he's not obligated to submit himself to a person that tried and failed to destroy his life

I don't get what you aren't understanding. You should watch the Dr Umar Johnson video posted in the other thread

All that truth might upset you though

Clearly he thinks he has something to apologize for based on his own words. I don't think you can tell him how to feel about a situation that has affected his life.

Clearly if he thought he had something to apologize for he would have done it by now

That's now true at all. People's opinions grow and change as they get older. Parker himself said he's different at 36 than 19 so once again ignoring Parker's own words about what he's learned about how his reaction to the situation could've been better

He's been asked to apologize multiple times in public RECENTLY and said no each time so I'm not sure what you're talking about

 

[xxCivicxx]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

No one said this.

That's literally what everyone who doesn't like Nate Parker is saying

 

[blackrain]

so some of u nignogs would show remorse for shit u didn't do?

and its arrogant to be a man and defend your own honor?

what a time

also, i better not see u same nignogs crying about 'ban the box' or 'end mass incarceration'

they used to kill brothers over accusations now they get black ppl to do it themselves...

You can be remorseful in how you address things without being remorseful for something you didn't do. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[blackrain]

And also you proved my point with the bolded part of that quote

His life was attacked and put in jeopardy and he's still expected to be the always forgiving Uncle Tom that will apologize to the people beating the shit out of him while they're doing it

He IS the victim. He has no obligation to feel any remorse for the horrible human being that would destroy another person's life to conceal her own CONSENSUAL activities

How does that prove your point that I got his words wrong or that he's saying he's not a victim when he says it flat out. He's openly admitting he should've handled it differently and spelling out how he should have. He never once wavers from proclaiming his innocence, just saying he could've went about it in a much different way.

Once again, he has nothing to apologize for and he's not obligated to submit himself to a person that tried and failed to destroy his life

I don't get what you aren't understanding. You should watch the Dr Umar Johnson video posted in the other thread

All that truth might upset you though

Clearly he thinks he has something to apologize for based on his own words. I don't think you can tell him how to feel about a situation that has affected his life.

Clearly if he thought he had something to apologize for he would have done it by now

That's now true at all. People's opinions grow and change as they get older. Parker himself said he's different at 36 than 19 so once again ignoring Parker's own words about what he's learned about how his reaction to the situation could've been better

He's been asked to apologize multiple times in public RECENTLY and said no each time so I'm not sure what you're talking about

He's also been called out about how he's addressed it in general which he admitted he could've done better regardless of innocence or guilt. Most people problem wasn't the accusation itself but how he went about answering the questions. Idk what's so hard a out reading his own words when he says he could've addressed that better while still maintaining his innocence. He can do both and did so in the interview I showed you

 

[Brother_Five]

this is nonsense

these expectations are absurd

 

[blackrain]

this is nonsense

these expectations are absurd

I don't even think you believe that lol

 

[D. Morgan]

Empathy: the ability to share someone else's feelings : the feeling that you understand and share another person's experiences and emotions

Please explain to me how Nate Parker is supposed to feel empathy for the chick who accused him of rape.

Yall really expect a person who was arrested, put on trial and acquitted yet still vilified to share or understand this persons fucking feelings towards him? That shit is realistic and understandable to yall?