Spin-Off:Should a rapper listen to the beat and then write the song OR

[H-Rap 180]

From my experience in the studio, rappers who write to a beat have the best flow.

Rappers who write their rhymes first have to edit the words or risk sometimes sounding off-beat

The greatest advantage goes to the rapper/producer who makes the beat & makes the rhyme..thats why people like Emenims verse on renegade so much...he had the best advantage.

Listen to the beat first FTW.

 

[KingJamal]

From my experience in the studio, rappers who write to a beat have the best flow.

Rappers who write their rhymes first have to edit the words or risk sometimes sounding off-beat

The greatest advantage goes to the rapper/producer who makes the beat & makes the rhyme..thats why people like Emenims verse on renegade so much...he had the best advantage.

Listen to the beat first FTW.

Yea I agree

 

[BackInWhite]

i listen to the beat
then write my verse
then do that shit in 1 take
i'm like jay

 

[_Menace_]

Me personally I cant write and expect to use a random beat.

I write to the beat.

 

[dreadlock rasta]

Write to da beat, that way you'll know all da drops and other various things that goes wit da beat

 

[turqiun]

I can't even fathom writing an entire song without a beat.

 

[BackInWhite]

really i don't even write
i just be comin off the top.... asbestos

 

[georgia boi]

I have done both. Using a pre-written song before hearing a beat is hit and miss though. Sometimes it fits like a glove. Sometimes, alterations to the written verses have to be made.

One of the best methods though is coming up with something entirely from scratch. Either being in the same room with the producer and giving them concepts and ideas, then write the song or just producing and writing at the same time.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

both as long as it sounds good and u feeling ya self nh

 

[__illmaticz]

listen to the beat and then write. pretty sure it'll sound a little more authentic than trying to force a prewritten rhyme to flow over a beat.

 

[esco soprano]

From my experience in the studio, rappers who write to a beat have the best flow.

Rappers who write their rhymes first have to edit the words or risk sometimes sounding off-beat

The greatest advantage goes to the rapper/producer who makes the beat & makes the rhyme..thats why people like Emenims verse on renegade so much...he had the best advantage.

Listen to the beat first FTW.

Agree. I've done both and it is almost always a better outcome when you tailor your writing to the flow of the beat.

 

[DEE-LICIOUS]

Listening and vibing off the beat helps inspire your rhymes....

In most instances anyway

 

[curt mcgirt]

For the most part I say hear the beat first. BUT if u got a good producer u can write something and he can tell what kind of beat needs to go with it.

 

[MC The Rapper]

it depends on how you write

 

[soul rattler]

This is an open ended question. There isn't a universally better way to write a verse... every rapper is different.

 

[supaman4321]

For the most part I say hear the beat first. BUT if u got a good producer u can write something and he can tell what kind of beat needs to go with it.

dope avi akhi

I've done both and I think it depends, if you know you have something that you've already written and memorized and it'll fit the vibe and direction of the song then why not? It only sounds bad or forced I think when you make it try and stay in the structure of the margins instead of the structure of the beat, when you're good you probably wouldn't be able to tell a big difference. Besides wasn't all of illmatic pre-written?

 

[MC The Rapper]

dope avi akhi

I've done both and I think it depends, if you know you have something that you've already written and memorized and it'll fit the vibe and direction of the song then why not? It only sounds bad or forced I think when you make it try and stay in the structure of the margins instead of the structure of the beat, when you're good you probably wouldn't be able to tell a big difference. Besides wasn't all of illmatic pre-written?

a lot of jay-z's shit is pre memorized

 

[a.mann]

I have done both. Using a pre-written song before hearing a beat is hit and miss though. Sometimes it fits like a glove. Sometimes, alterations to the written verses have to be made.

One of the best methods though is coming up with something entirely from scratch. Either being in the same room with the producer and giving them concepts and ideas, then write the song or just producing and writing at the same time.

agreed.

and always found it more interesting on how a producer can take an artist's idea and concept and shape the production accordingly.

which is exactly why some instrumentals doesn't sound right when other artist try to rhyme or freestyles over them. Because that production wasn't "made" for them.

But you have producers that make "blanket beats". Meaning the production could have been pre-made and has a "universal" appear and any artist can hop on it and sound decent to great on it.

 

[MC The Rapper]

but it never touches paper

he makes whole songs by memorizing them than he has who ever make the beat for him

 

[Ear2DaSt]

I guess the artist could give the producer a few concepts to make sure the beat is go along with the verses.

Then Im thinking the rapper should peep the beats feel the beats and see what they can do with it.