Sorry Pac, BIG, Jay-Z, & Big Pun but maybe... Nas = GOAT now?

[CoolJoe]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

 

[Garv*]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Only a couple good examples there bro.

 

[And_So_It_Burns]

Nas.....Jay..............................................................everyone else

 

[CoolJoe]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Only a couple good examples there bro.

I don't know who's more of an idiot, you or Lab Baby.

Your dumb ass said Jay-Z was washed up now, but you proceed to post songs that were released 3 years ago to prove your point, while I posted songs from 2011, and one from 2012 to prove my point.

 

[rapmastermind]

With 10 albums in and a combined 38 years in the game it's disrespectful to Nas and Jay to compare them to two rappers that died over a decade ago. Biggie and Pac shouldnt be in GOAT debates anymore in Awe of these two. Its been between Nas and Jay since 2001. Nas however is simply a better MC than Jay. LIG confirms that no other rapper this deep in their career raps on this level. Stories, flows, concepts....he ethered his only rival. NAs won

Time in the game isn't the only factor to what makes someone great, it's their impact, influence and the material they left behind. Jimi Hendrix only dropped 3 LP's 40 years ago and he's still considered the greatest gutair player of all time. Santana and Eric Clapton dropped more LP's and been in the game longer and yet they aren't considered better than Jimi. Also Jay and NaS themseleves would disagree with your statement as Both mentioned Pac and Biggie mutiple times of their last LP's and many previous LP's before that. Pac and Big's impact in Hip Hop can not be overstated, they both changed the genre.

 

[Lab Baby]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Yes, he is

=relmfu
=1

=related

That's 5 songs... and I was being nice with BP3. Drop 5 Nas songs in the past 3 years that were this bad.

 

[jono]

@DankNDrank

e·mo·tion·al  (-msh-nl)

adj.

1. Of or relating to emotion: an emotional illness; emotional crises.

2. Readily affected with or stirred by emotion: an emotional person who often weeps.

3. Arousing or intended to arouse the emotions: an emotional appeal.

4. Marked by or exhibiting emotion: an emotional farewell.

5. That shit you talking bitch ass nigga

Jay-Z & 2Pac marks are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too emotional. Yall niggas need to get some tissue before you log on.

Faces stay wet.

 

[TheGambinoLegacy]

only internet geeks listen to Nas lol

this fool doesnt exist in the real world.

 

[Lab Baby]

And for the record, I'm not throwing dirt on Jay, dude is definitely a legend and can still spit. He just seems to be preoccupied and throws some duds now and again.

 

[CoolJoe]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Yes, he is

=relmfu
=1

=related

That's 5 songs... and I was being nice with BP3. Drop 5 Nas songs in the past 3 years that were this bad.

Lift Off, seriously? How many fucking bars did Jay have on that song.

LOL@ Who Gone Stop Me being bad.

I'm not commenting on tracks off BP3 because we're talking about current Jay, and I don't believe that 2009 is current enough, maybe for you and that other idiot, but not for me.

I don't need to drop Nas songs that are bad, since I don't think he's washed up.

You're an idiot, that's what all this shit boils down to.

 

[Lab Baby]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Yes, he is

=relmfu
=1

=related

That's 5 songs... and I was being nice with BP3. Drop 5 Nas songs in the past 3 years that were this bad.

Lift Off, seriously? How many fucking bars did Jay have on that song.

LOL@ Who Gone Stop Me being bad.

I'm not commenting on tracks off BP3 because we're talking about current Jay, and I don't believe that 2009 is current enough, maybe for you and that other idiot, but not for me.

I don't need to drop Nas songs that are bad, since I don't think he's washed up.

You're an idiot, that's what all this shit boils down to.

Again, not tryna diss Jay... my thing is, Nas raised the bar when he dropped this album. Your original point is Nas wasn't the GOAT. Who then, has been relevant for 20+ years, dropped consistent work and remained in the public eye as long as Nas? No one. Not LL, not Rakim, not Big or Pac (unfortunately), not Em, not even Jay. Jay the closest, but he isn't consistent enough. Jay is great at a lot of things, but this rap shit, Nas got this.

 

[CoolJoe]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Yes, he is

=relmfu
=1

=related

That's 5 songs... and I was being nice with BP3. Drop 5 Nas songs in the past 3 years that were this bad.

Lift Off, seriously? How many fucking bars did Jay have on that song.

LOL@ Who Gone Stop Me being bad.

I'm not commenting on tracks off BP3 because we're talking about current Jay, and I don't believe that 2009 is current enough, maybe for you and that other idiot, but not for me.

I don't need to drop Nas songs that are bad, since I don't think he's washed up.

You're an idiot, that's what all this shit boils down to.

Again, not tryna diss Jay... my thing is, Nas raised the bar when he dropped this album. Your original point is Nas wasn't the GOAT. Who then, has been relevant for 20+ years, dropped consistent work and remained in the public eye as long as Nas? No one. Not LL, not Rakim, not Big or Pac (unfortunately), not Em, not even Jay. Jay the closest, but he isn't consistent enough. Jay is great at a lot of things, but this rap shit, Nas got this.

I think Jay is better, but I wasn't arguing about that.

 

[ocelot]

smh@Jigga being Larry Holmes because of BP3... yall niggas reaching

=related
=related
=related
=related
=related

 

[coolc31]

Nas is definitely one of the greatest...top 2 to me...Hov would be number 1 for me most days, but I put Nas at 1 on certain days. It's definitely not because of his last 3 or 4 albums though. I just haven't been interested in much of his material since Stillmatic. I still buy his shit, but I don't listen to it more than twice.

 

[jono]

Jay has stepped it back up quite a bit since Kingdom Come (which I didn't think was that bad).

American Gangster is top notch and proved he still had it. BP 3 proved he still had it to make commercial hits.

I liked BP3 too by the way even though there were too many features. He's not as sharp but he's just as witty as always and that's Jay's strong suit anyway.

 

[Garv*]

Nas is not the GOAT lmao only on internet message boards lol... Nas was a worker 4 the GOAT #HOVA

can you give resons why he is the best?? it cant be because of record sales (hova wins) I cant be because of live preformances (hova by a long shot) it cant be becase he's a boss lmao (Hova wins again) I could keep going but you get the picture..

Nas drops Life Is Good at 38

Jay drops Kingdom Come at 38

Nuff said.

Jay Dropped Kingdom Come when he was 36, the fuck are you talking about.

My bad, got mixed up by that "rappin at 38" line on the intro... that actually further proves my point. Jay was lookin like Larry Holmes at 36... and to put it in further perspective, Nas dropped Distant Relatives at the same age.

But Jay-Z released American Gangster at age 37.....

Which included this classic track


So yea, what are you getting at?

Dope album, but he was still lookin like Larry Holmes (I sport the fly shit, I should win an ESPYYYYYY)... and trust me, he's got more than that. Oh, and shortly thereafter he drops BP3 at 39 (Nas turns 39 this year).

What I'm getting at is, Nas ages better musically than Jay. Granted, Jay may be preoccupied with businesses or whatever, but it's still a given that Nas has a better catalogue than Jay. He's done it longer, he's matured faster even though he's younger, and to top it all off, he's still spittin an album worth of fire. You're lucky to get one good line a verse from Jay these days.

He releases a dope album, but he's still on Larry Holmes status, that shit makes no sense at all.

And LOL@ The bold.

Album was released a while ago.

His last solo album was BP3, just in case you didn't know.

The person I quoted said that Jay-Z was on Larry Holmes status on American Gangster, but also said the album was dope, to which I said made no sense at all.

I realize that BP3 is Jay's last solo effort.

Try following the argument next time.

Well he is on Larry Holmes status now, and your stupid ass can't argue with that.

Nas has been more consistent in the last 5 years.

And he was better in the 90's too.

Jay is definitely on Larry Holmes status.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot.

Only a couple good examples there bro.

I don't know who's more of an idiot, you or Lab Baby.

Your dumb ass said Jay-Z was washed up now, but you proceed to post songs that were released 3 years ago to prove your point, while I posted songs from 2011, and one from 2012 to prove my point.

I post songs from his LAST SOLO ALBUM, and the songs you posted don't prove your point very well, Jay Z didn't show up lyrically on WTT period, i know deep down you know Nas is better right now.

 

[Garv*]

Who thinks Jay is better than Nas right now?

 

[waterproof]

@Kwan Dai

I can say the same for you bruh...

I'm not here asking questions. You are. So, you cannot fix your fingers to type anything similar.

Nope not even on PAC level as GOAT, Pac was a movement and a force that even had the FBI and the Goverment watching his every move for they fear he was the Black Messiah, Pac made music that move the soul.

But Nas is making a move to replace Rakim as Number 2 of the all time greatest list and Nas can deliver one more classic he will replace Rakim for number 2

We are usually on the same page. But not on this one. Pac had Music full of substance and emotion. But he can't see Nas . Nas is light years ahead of Pac as an MC.

As technically emcee i agree with you on the lyrical technician aspect, Pac was a Poet emcee and really wrote the majority of his rhymes in a poetic form (the ones when Pac was more in a calm state) but i can honestly say that Pac was on his way to become more lyrical emcee at the time of his death, he was going to take another step when he dropped 7 Day theory to become a COMPLETE MC that covered all the skills to become a complete emcee. Because Pac had all the other skills locked Crowd Control, Delivery, Voice, Mic Control, breathing technique, flow, voice, writer, can freestyle off the top, using his voice as an instrument, a poet, touching the crowd live or on tape, substance and emotion,Star Power And he know to be THE COMPLETE emcee he needs to master the lyrical aspect of the form and that's what he was doing.

That's why i rank him as GOAT because he had all the others on lock with classic albums and needed to master one more aspect of emceeing to be the complete emcee.

But im not taking nothing from NAS, Nas is one of my personal favorite artist and i own all his LP's and rank him 3rd on the GOAT LIST, behind Pac and Rakim.

Plus Pac didn't peak yet or reach his full potential as an artist, producer, writer, poet, director, actor, emcee and activist. And looked how far he was at 25, Pac was getting better on every album.

The same thing goes for Biggie Smalls he haven't reached his full potential as an emcee, the best thing for him was to get in that accident because you know he was reading books, his vocabulary on words was expanding and it showed in his flows

2pac is the GOAT^^^^

 

[Str8Skippin]

Agree, but he was the GOAT even before Life is Good.

 

[nawledge_god]

only internet geeks listen to Nas lol

this fool doesnt exist in the real world.

STFU You Racist Guinea FUCK