Someone has to be wrong about these religions you know, how do yall reconcile that!

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louis the great;835736 said:
LOL funny how you can say that after sayin no one can claim to know what happens from man-made books, then percede to tell us what happens in your ( a Man ) opinion.

lol bruh... That's not an opinion. It's a scientific fact and a law of physics. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. All matter is energy. It is simply recycled and used for other purposes.
 
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BEAM;835901 said:
I didn't say I believed in Heaven, I said I believed in a Supreme being.

My idea of a Higher Power starts and stops at an "Initiator", something that started everything. Nothing more, nothing less.

oh, my bad bruh
 
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BEAM;835901 said:
I didn't say I believed in Heaven, I said I believed in a Supreme being.

My idea of a Higher Power starts and stops at an "Initiator", something that started everything. Nothing more, nothing less.

Does the "something" have to be a conscious being? (as in self thinking, and awareness)
 
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glowy;835936 said:
Does the "something" have to be a conscious being? (as in self thinking, and awareness)

Who am I to say?

Though I do think that "something" that has the ability to exist beyond having been a result would have to have intention.
 
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usmarin3;835071 said:
Whether you believe in Jesus, Muhammed, Haile Selassie,Budda,etc. You mean to tell me the millions of people who believe in these other religions whether it be for good or bad reasons, are not gonna go to your denominations version of heaven. How do people reconcile that?

Someone has to be wrong, whether their intentions are good and what about tribal groups who have never been exposed to these mainstream religions, do they go to hell?

According to some, God has sent many messengers to various parts of the world. Whether Mohammed (pbuh), Yeshua (pbuh), Moses (pbuh), Abraham (pbuh), Buddha (pbuh), Krishna (pbuh), Zororaster (pbuh), Bahaullah (pbuh), or any of the other prophets or a given religion, they all lead back to God. Many of the names of His messengers have been lost to time or to the destruction of a culture, especially in The Americas. The old Native American stories of the earth's creation and how to live came from somewhere and were tailored for those people just as the Jews were given a set of instructions on how to live tailored to their understanding.

How it's reconciled is simple: We all came from the same essence, we will all return to it. The rest of the stuff is just fluff that clouds the spirit from understanding this.
 
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Where do people get the Idea that Endless nothing can bring Creation. I dont care what scientist bullshit youre on but thats common fuck*n sense Nothing = Nothing.
 
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I think you can reconcile by knowing first that history has been white washed. I just came across a youtube video that explains the beginings of the Islamic Empire and how the Romans made Christianity the state religion after the Islamic Empire conquered Spain and North Africa. [video=youtube;gXTL3w-BUPA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXTL3w-BUPA[/video]
 
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louis the great;836160 said:
Where do people get the Idea that Endless nothing can bring Creation. I dont care what scientist bullshit youre on but thats common fuck*n sense Nothing = Nothing.

unless you're of my school of thought that says that there WAS a universe here prior to ours that collapsed to a single, one-dimensional point and exploded, thus starting the universe that we currently inhabit which will continue to expand to a finite point, then collapse over time to a single, one-dimensional point...
 
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louis the great;836160 said:
Where do people get the Idea that Endless nothing can bring Creation. I dont care what scientist bullshit youre on but thats common fuck*n sense Nothing = Nothing.

Then explain how the initial creator got there. By you're logic it couldn't have come from nothing. Therefore it had to have a cause as well. Infinite regression

On the other hand is it possible that the universe itself is the infinite thing? If you reject that then you have to keep explaining an endless series of causes
 
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Eh, I don't think anyone is wrong.

Do what makes you happy and keeps you sane in a fucked up world, whether it be Jesus, Muhammad, or Jahweh.

All religions are different pieces cut from the same cloth from my perspective anyway.
 
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there is one god, period.

and i think that everyone has a choice to believe what they choose, but no matter the prohet it will always lead to one narrow path that leads to God, guess it safe to stay all these religions have one thing in common, they all preach in praticing being righteous (positive) in anything you do in life.
 
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A question to ask may be...what "rights" does someone has to being correct about what he or she believes? If a belief is true, then it shouldn't be subjected to biases or prejudices that people apply to it. It should be true regardless of what somebody thinks. It's possible to be right for the wrong reasons.
 
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Mr. Whatchasay;836342 said:
there is one god, period.

and i think that everyone has a choice to believe what they choose, but no matter the prohet it will always lead to one narrow path that leads to God, guess it safe to stay all these religions have one thing in common, they all preach in praticing being righteous (positive) in anything you do in life.

there is no god, period.

just because i say it that way, does it make it any more valid than your version? the thing is that no one really knows. that is why every one is right even though every one believes in something different. until a dead person can be interviewed, a deity actually makes his presence known (not a person getting a job that they prayed for), aliens come down and show themselves or some crazy technology (turntables made of unobtanium), or etc...then people are just full of shit when they claim that they know their beliefs are the actual truth.
 
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A cursory examination of any religious belief system does not qualify one to definitively speak on its veracity or its falseness. Anything beyond experiential knowledge is hearsay. Wholesale rejection of spiritual principles because of the mistakes of manmade exoteric systems is unwise. All religions are right and wrong. All puzzle pieces. People throw atheistic temper tantrums or get hyper-emotional in blind faith mode when they are too lazy too connect all the dots.
 
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Every religion is wrong. Truth is no one knows 100% what is wrong or right because no one has died and came back to tell us where they went. Near death experiences are the closest thing and it seems they only see what they believe in when they die. Usually Christians see Jesus, Muslims see Muhammad, You would see some nigga from Alpha Cintrary, Athiest see nothing.

If one of these gods were correct though, dont you think he would only have himself accountable for not providing a better way to reach people.
 
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ThaChozenWun;838442 said:
Every religion is wrong. Truth is no one knows 100% what is wrong or right because no one has died and came back to tell us where they went. Near death experiences are the closest thing and it seems they only see what they believe in when they die. Usually Christians see Jesus, Muslims see Muhammad, You would see some nigga from Alpha Cintrary, Athiest see nothing.

If one of these gods were correct though, dont you think he would only have himself accountable for not providing a better way to reach people.

Correct. ALL religions are wrong, what Jesus taught wasn't a religion. It was just about God and the whole purpose of Himself and God. He never taught Christianity or anything.

Correct. No one knows 100%. The closet thing would be the bible, I feel though as if you can follow it's just basic instructions and be faithful and serious in heart then you will make it into heaven.

God cannot fault us for the book that we take into truth, we only do as we're told which is by the bible.

The near death experiences is something you believe in though, I've come to see that. I was watching a documentary on near death experiences and every one was different. There was this one lady who was in a field of flowers, and there was a stair case that led up up up up and up, she said she wanted to sit so she did. She goes on to say dogs just came out of everywhere and she was surrounded by dogs and stuff. It's what your life consists of I believe. But I do believe there's something there in our skies or whatever, it's heaven. All near death experiences have had an encounter with 1. God 2. Angels or 3. Light, then beauty of the surroundings....

The only thing that is right is God Himself, and the simple fact that he sent Jesus His Son to die on the cross for our sins. We need to repent, believe, have faith and follow in the light of God. That is our instructions, everything else in the bible is pretty much a toss up in a way...
 
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