Some whites are more black than you think, and some blacks are more white than you think

[sully]

The number of mostly white but a little-bit-black young people -- the kind who cause confusion for affirmative action classification schemes -- is growing as interracial marriage becomes more popular. On the other hand, as Shriver's data shows, there aren't yet all that many adults who fall genetically in the "gray zone" between the races. Perhaps at present the "one drop" rule, for all its theoretical folly, still is indeed good enough for government work -- assuming that government work should include racial preferences, which are now illegal in California.

The admixture rates vary by region. The African-American populations with the highest average numbers of white ancestors found so far are those in California and Seattle. They average a little over one-quarter European ancestry.

In contrast, according to a recent article published by Shriver's team in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, the Gullahs of the long-isolated Sea Islands of South Carolina and Georgia, who are famous for speaking a pleasantly African-sounding dialect, are only 3-4 percent white.

In the rest of the rural South, African-Americans tend to be not as black as the Gullahs, but still blacker than the national average. Shriver's team found that the white admixture percentage in four Lowland farm counties in South Carolina was 12 percent.

Cities, whether Northern or Southern, tend to be about average. In terms of white ancestry among African-Americans, New York is a little above the mean, while Philadelphia is a little below. Jackson, Miss., is near the norm.

The African-Americans of New Orleans average 22 percent white. This fairly high number reflects the influence of Spanish and French mores in Louisiana. Latin cultures have no "one drop" rule, so intermarriage was somewhat more socially acceptable there.

Advocates of the growing popular idea that race is merely a "social construct" with no biological reality point to the artificiality of the "one drop" rule as evidence for their view. Yet, it's possible that the "one drop" rule itself helped to construct the genetic reality that Shriver has uncovered.

Latin cultures, which lack the one drop rule, create more evenly blended populations, as Shriver has helped document among Mexican-Americans. He and his colleagues found that Hispanics in certain New Mexico and Colorado locales averaged 58 percent white ancestry, 39 percent New World Indian, and three percent African.

In contrast to the "bimodal distribution" of blacks and whites in America, Mexican-Americans clustered around their average admixture level of 58 percent European.

For centuries, however, American whites defined anyone with visible black ancestry as ineligible to marry a white. (It wasn't until 1967 that the Supreme Court overturned the "anti-miscegenation" laws that were then still in force in 19 states.) This meant that mixed race people could seldom marry white people.

Unless, that is, they were white-looking enough to pass for white, and were willing to pull up their roots and move to a different part of the country where they could assume a white identity. This happened not infrequently in American history. For instance, one of the slave Sally Hemmings' one-eighth black sons (who, according to geneticists, was fathered by either Thomas Jefferson or one of his relations) moved to Madison, Wis., after he was freed and founded a family of socially identified whites. Nonetheless, Shriver's data suggests that well over 90 percent of the African genes in Americans are still found in people who call themselves black.

Over the generations, mixed-race lineages would tend to either pass into the white population and become more white with each generation's marriage to a white person, or stay in the African-American population. If the latter, the families would normally become more genetically African over time as their offspring married African-Americans.

Thus, the "one drop" rule helped make African-Americans and European-Americans into two social groups whose members -- despite sometimes being highly varied in ancestry -- are perhaps more distinct on average in their family trees than the arbitrariness of the "one drop" would lead you to initially assume.

 

[Purr]

waits for Matt to commit suicide...

First, more than 50 million whites, according to his analyses, have at least one black ancestor

 

[Stew]

 

[GettinLo]

Without reading.. AJackson embodies this study

 

[Trollio]

Crackas are rapist

Theory solved

 

[Ajackson17]

People are slow, a brown skin black man could be 60 percent white

 

[Drew_Ali]

This confirms that race is biological........

 

[unRealLady1]

I'm black knowing how to type do not make you "white" acting. I had a computer in my house since 1997 and I took up typing class. But I'm black. facebook or myspace pages do not make you white acting.. in 2013 it's a lot of blacks with social networking pages.. I hate that some people consider intelligence or having class a "white thing"

 

[NoCompetition]

Thinkin people act a certain way because of their "race" will have you where you belong. Losing. People act how they act. Its asian people that have no accent and just act like people with their own personality (gasp!). Yep already figured this one out on to bigger and better things ahead of the rest.

 

[ohhhla]

I'm sorry the first black were like me.

If you look like you're mulatto,, imma think that.

 

[sully]

Crackas are rapist

Theory solved

According to this study, you could be up to 20% cracka, thus, you're upto 20% rapist by your own logic.

 

[Splackavelli]

people are slow a brown skin black man could be 60 percent white

 

[sully]

This confirms that race is biological........

Actually, "race" is a social construct.

What this study does is seek genetic genotypes and phenotypes according to West African haplotypes, and try to identify their existence in European Americans, and then vice versa for blacks with European-specific haplotypes.

Basing your kinship to other people of the same skin colour is entirely based on social experience and relatability on a social level. Genetically, there's more variation within Africa itself (say, hypothetically, between West Africans in Mali and South Africa).

It wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to assume West Africans from Mali or Ghana et al prior to enslavement weren't closer genetically to Western Europeans or the Japanese than they were to South Africans.

Your idea of "race" comes entirely from the distinguishing of genetic phenotypes that have become dominant physical expressions through generations and generations of natural selection, but probably moreso b/c of social constructions like war or predominant ideas of beauty, etc.

 

[sully]

I'm black knowing how to type do not make you "white" acting. I had a computer in my house since 1997 and I took up typing class. But I'm black. facebook or myspace pages do not make you white acting.. in 2013 it's a lot of blacks with social networking pages.. I hate that some people consider intelligence or having class a "white thing"

I'd actually go as far as to say black people spend even more time on social networking than other people.

Black people got youtube videos ranting about everything from wars overseas to why they put A1 steaksauce on their pancakes.

 

[ohhhla]

This confirms that race is biological........

Actually, "race" is a social construct.

What this study does is seek genetic genotypes and phenotypes according to West African haplotypes, and try to identify their existence in European Americans, and then vice versa for blacks with European-specific haplotypes.

Basing your kinship to other people of the same skin colour is entirely based on social experience and relatability on a social level. Genetically, there's more variation within Africa itself (say, hypothetically, between West Africans in Mali and South Africa).

It wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to assume West Africans from Mali or Ghana et al prior to enslavement weren't closer genetically to Western Europeans or the Japanese than they were to South Africans.

Your idea of "race" comes entirely from the distinguishing of genetic phenotypes that have become dominant physical expressions through generations and generations of natural selection, but probably moreso b/c of social constructions like war or predominant ideas of beauty, etc.

Yo, please don't start that.

Bambu is going off on a tangent

 

[Trollio]

Crackas are rapist

Theory solved

According to this study, you could be up to 20% cracka, thus, you're upto 20% rapist by your own logic.

Well ima rape your mama first

 

[NoCompetition]

This confirms that race is biological........

Actually, "race" is a social construct.

What this study does is seek genetic genotypes and phenotypes according to West African haplotypes, and try to identify their existence in European Americans, and then vice versa for blacks with European-specific haplotypes.

Basing your kinship to other people of the same skin colour is entirely based on social experience and relatability on a social level. Genetically, there's more variation within Africa itself (say, hypothetically, between West Africans in Mali and South Africa).

It wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to assume West Africans from Mali or Ghana et al prior to enslavement weren't closer genetically to Western Europeans or the Japanese than they were to South Africans.

Your idea of "race" comes entirely from the distinguishing of genetic phenotypes that have become dominant physical expressions through generations and generations of natural selection, but probably moreso b/c of social constructions like war or predominant ideas of beauty, etc.

Every human on earth whether they from Sudan or Norway had their original ancestors originate in East Africa. All the scientists know this. Its old news to any who arent ignorant simple minded people. Its simply the truth. one group didnt appear there and another simultaneously appear in europe, asia, etc. They migrated from Africa. Some traits developed over thousands of years depending on their new environment and some were genetic. But the concept of "race" is ignorance and those in the know know better.

 

[sully]

Crackas are rapist

Theory solved

According to this study, you could be up to 20% cracka, thus, you're upto 20% rapist by your own logic.

Well ima rape your mama first

Only uncivilized savages rape or make threats of rape.

 

[sully]

This confirms that race is biological........

Actually, "race" is a social construct.

What this study does is seek genetic genotypes and phenotypes according to West African haplotypes, and try to identify their existence in European Americans, and then vice versa for blacks with European-specific haplotypes.

Basing your kinship to other people of the same skin colour is entirely based on social experience and relatability on a social level. Genetically, there's more variation within Africa itself (say, hypothetically, between West Africans in Mali and South Africa).

It wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to assume West Africans from Mali or Ghana et al prior to enslavement weren't closer genetically to Western Europeans or the Japanese than they were to South Africans.

Your idea of "race" comes entirely from the distinguishing of genetic phenotypes that have become dominant physical expressions through generations and generations of natural selection, but probably moreso b/c of social constructions like war or predominant ideas of beauty, etc.

Every human on earth whether they from Sudan or Norway had their original ancestors originate in East Africa. All the scientists know this. Its old news to any who arent ignorant simple minded people. Its simply reality.

I would think that should be inherently understood and accepted to even understand my point.

 

[NoCompetition]

This confirms that race is biological........

Actually, "race" is a social construct.

What this study does is seek genetic genotypes and phenotypes according to West African haplotypes, and try to identify their existence in European Americans, and then vice versa for blacks with European-specific haplotypes.

Basing your kinship to other people of the same skin colour is entirely based on social experience and relatability on a social level. Genetically, there's more variation within Africa itself (say, hypothetically, between West Africans in Mali and South Africa).

It wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to assume West Africans from Mali or Ghana et al prior to enslavement weren't closer genetically to Western Europeans or the Japanese than they were to South Africans.

Your idea of "race" comes entirely from the distinguishing of genetic phenotypes that have become dominant physical expressions through generations and generations of natural selection, but probably moreso b/c of social constructions like war or predominant ideas of beauty, etc.

Every human on earth whether they from Sudan or Norway had their original ancestors originate in East Africa. All the scientists know this. Its old news to any who arent ignorant simple minded people. Its simply reality.

I would think that should be inherently understood and accepted to even understand my point.

Yeah i kinda edited this post. But yeah, Its understood by many today but it needs to be universally understood. But I agree.