so whos gonna start the movement

[musicology1985]

Major Pain-"The facts show, that they do exist and on a large scale."


this is a damn lie. if they did exists on a large scale most black Americans would be employed by their own. I'm not saying we can't get there, but we are far from there right now.

that is why we need reform & a fresh batch of new talented tenth black Americans who put our agenda first.

 

[major pain]

dawg, the average black person cannot seek employment from their own people man. unless it is through barbershops, salons and the church. you searched for POCKETS throughout the U.S. that doesn't even affect the average black persons life. so on that level of tangible results in regards to a movement? (which this thread is about) no, it doesn't exist.

I dont think ANY black person that is looking for work at a company is turning down jobs because the owner of the company isnt black. Same goes for any other race.

The "movement" is there and has been there for a very long time, you just dont like its direction or progression apparently. I dont know what you expect to happen, but there is no magic button to press and automatically all black businesses collaborate. However, there is a black chamber of commerce in just about every major city in America, but I guess thats just a "pocket" to you?

 

[major pain]

Major Pain-"The facts show, that they do exist and on a large scale."


this is a damn lie. if they did exists on a large scale most black Americans would be employed by their own. I'm not saying we can't get there, but we are far from there right now.

that is why we need reform & a fresh batch of new talented tenth black Americans who put our agenda first.

Do you have a background in business? Could you show me in any forum, that successful businesses operate by predominately employing their own race?

 

[musicology1985]

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND, THAT ONE MAN'S ACTIONS, DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE GROUP? Robert Johnson isnt Kappa Alpha Psi's representative to the nation. He doesnt go to work as Kappa Alpha Psi dictator and owner of CEO second. I'm willing to bet the nigga aint even FINANCIAL with them.

Since Obama is president now, should all the mistakes he has made be on the shoulders of all black people? Tell me how that would be any different from what you are saying here?

stop frontin.' the black greeks are the most economically mobile and political group in black America, followed by the black Freemasons. so yes, what you guys do reflects on all of us because U ARE THE MAJORITY OF OUR LEADERSHIP. and a sorry one at that. that's why he named it BLACK ent. not American Ent. and Obama is the president of the U.S. not the black states of America. on the first page I clearly showed the difference between Obama & black leadership.

 

[major pain]

stop frontin.' the black greeks are the most economically mobile and political group in black America, followed by the black Freemasons. so yes, what you guys do reflects on all of us because U ARE THE MAJORITY OF OUR LEADERSHIP. and a sorry one at that. that's why he named it BLACK ent. not American Ent. and Obama is the president of the U.S. not the black states of America. on the first page I clearly showed the difference between Obama & black leadership.

Care to elaborate on that, with some evidence of such? FYI, any black greek fraternity's website will list its notable members. Especially ones in politics or heads of companies, etc. The list isnt very long compared to the overall list of black leaders.

So, Robert Johnson naming BET is somehow related to the rest of black greeks? As such, his actions now are a reflection of the rest of us? So, what happens when a non black greek person makes a huge impact on society? Who does that reflect upon? Lets say.. Oprah?

 

[musicology1985]

I dont think ANY black person that is looking for work at a company is turning down jobs because the owner of the company isnt black. Same goes for any other race.

I never implied that they do.

The "movement" is there and has been there for a very long time, you just dont like its direction or progression apparently. I dont know what you expect to happen, but there is no magic button to press and automatically all black businesses collaborate. However, there is a black chamber of commerce in just about every major city in America, but I guess thats just a "pocket" to you?

I don't like the direction? I am simply stating an alternative to the direction. the thread starter wasn't even aware that there was a movement, thats why he started this thread. I reminded him in the beginning of this thread that it was. the descendants of the civil rights movement are usually so quiet that people have to ask sometimes.

and those chambers of commerce don't have a lot of power because if they did, black banks & credit unions would be just as numerous as churches & liquor stores. they are, however, good for networking.

 

[musicology1985]

So, what happens when a non black greek person makes a huge impact on society? Who does that reflect upon? Lets say.. Oprah?

black Greeks, also known as Boules, are at the epicenter of black power in this country along with other groups I mentioned. I named all the groups responsible for major levels of leadership in black America. the black Democrats were named & Oprah is one of them.

 

[musicology1985]

and I do have a background in business. but I also have a background in politics and community activism, so I can see all sides. I am just offering a different point of view than what u intergrationists have presented in the last 40 years. remember, it was the black Greeks who opposed Marcus Garvey & Malcolm x. u guys have a history of being uncle toms & tools for powers greater than yourselves.

 

[major pain]

black Greeks, also known as Boules, are at the epicenter of black power in this country along with other groups I mentioned. I named all the groups responsible for major levels of leadership in black America. the black Democrats were named & Oprah is one of them.

Ok, you keep saying it, but can you provide evidence that supports what you are saying. The gap of black greeks that are "leaders" and black leaders in this nation is much larger than you are implying. The proof is on the lists of notable members.

and I do have a background in business. but I also have a background in politics and community activism, so I can see all sides. I am just offering a different point of view than what u intergrationists have presented in the last 40 years. remember, it was the black Greeks who opposed Marcus Garvey & Malcolm x. u guys have a history of being uncle toms & tools for powers greater than yourselves.

Really? So, you think it is WISE to try and only employ a particular race. 1. Thats called discrimination and is a quick way to get your business shut down, but you should know that, RIGHT?

You keep talking about black greeks as if we are all on some common wavelength. Again, the actions of a FEW do NOT represent the WHOLE. You really dont get that do you? MANY people opposed Garvey and Malcom X, because their ideas were not perfect in the least.

 

[musicology1985]

i'm kicking my uncle ruckus bullshit

I know, I know. That's why I don't even like to get started with you. Ether be dropping gems sometimes. But you are simply the white man's bitch. Nothing more, nothing less. Good riddens.

 

[major pain]

I know, I know. That's why I don't even like to get started with you. Ether be dropping gems sometimes. But you are simply the white man's bitch. Nothing more, nothing less. Good riddens.

LOL, because you cant provide evidence of what you are saying again? Remember that thing I said about needing better education? Its RIDDANCE smart guy.

 

[musicology1985]

LOL, because you cant provide evidence of what you are saying again? Remember that thing I said about needing better education? Its RIDDANCE smart guy.

DAWG, I NEVER WANTED TO BUILD WITH U IN THE FIRST PLACE. I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE U WITH ANYTHING OR SPELL THE WAY U WANT. u have been begging for my attention for some strange reason. I told u from the jump to talk to somebody else & I already told U I have better people to engage. take it how you want it man but u inserted yourself into this debate & we engaged for a while. now u can run along & think what u want.

 

[major pain]

DAWG, I NEVER WANTED TO BUILD WITH U IN THE FIRST PLACE. I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE U WITH ANYTHING OR SPELL THE WAY U WANT. u have been begging for my attention for some strange reason. I told u from the jump to talk to somebody else & I already told U I have better people to engage. take it how you want it man but u inserted yourself into this debate & we engaged for a while. now u can run along & think what u want.

LOL @ begging for your attention. NEGRO PLEASE. You made a comment, I said something in regards to that comment. Thats how this started. Thats what happens on a message board. If you dont like it...OH FUCKING WELL.. Now, if you cant hang with the convo and want to take the angry road out by all means....

 

[musicology1985]

LOL @ begging for your attention. NEGRO PLEASE. You made a comment, I said something in regards to that comment. Thats how this started. Thats what happens on a message board. If you dont like it...OH FUCKING WELL.. Now, if you cant hang with the convo and want to take the angry road out by all means....

can't hang? whats the point in trying to see eye to eye with a stone cold sheep dipped uncle tom? that's how our people got in this predicament. you cosign radical individualism, opposition to Garvey and Malcolm, u ignore our social issues and u are always pro establishment. Colin Powell speaks up more for our people than u do. some of the most successful businesspeople that I have ever worked with have advised me to make sure job creation for our people takes place. we have to stop neglecting our own. or at least a segment has to. I feel great about being a part of that segment & there is no way we should adopt your philosophy. job training & placement for blacks is a must. fuck what u think. u claim that the black Greeks are so diverse in opinion but u speak highly of all the bullshit & misleading that your frat members do (minus former mayor Kilpatrick of course, who you haven't taken a position for or against.)

 

[2stepz_ahead]

well if the movement has already started then i think we broke down and we are waiting in the hot sun on the side of the road. because i see ni99as standing still and the vultures in a holding pattern. now if we want to get somewhere we have to start walking and not wait for someone to come pick us up. why wait for something that may never come? you dont need a leader to say your hot and lets get the fcuk outta here.

see the way i see it is all other races have infighting and their own racial prejudtices within themselves, but when the time comes they unite like voltron. black people have the infighting, yet when the time comes we seperate even more.

i am sure that a sniper with enough ammo could kill hundreds of blacks before someone says hey lets work together to get this dude

 

[major pain]

can't hang? whats the point in trying to see eye to eye with a stone cold sheep dipped uncle tom? that's how our people got in this predicament. you cosign radical individualism, opposition to Garvey and Malcolm, u ignore our social issues and u are always pro establishment. Colin Powell speaks up more for our people than u do. some of the most successful businesspeople that I have ever worked with have advised me to make sure job creation for our people takes place. we have to stop neglecting our own. or at least a segment has to. I feel great about being a part of that segment & there is no way we should adopt your philosophy. job training & placement for blacks is a must. fuck what u think. u claim that the black Greeks are so diverse in opinion but u speak highly of all the bullshit & misleading that your frat members do (minus former mayor Kilpatrick of course, who you haven't taken a position for or against.)

Yea, you cant hang with the conversation, hence the "fuck what you think" "white man's bitch" "stone cold sheep dipped uncle tom" comments. Like I said before, you resort to childish actions when challenged. I simply asked you to provide EVIDENCE of this idea about black greeks and masons ruining black communities. Instead of doing so, you start the "uncle ruckus" comments. So, you tell me if you are really proving a point?

I never said I was opposed to Garvey and Malcolm. I said their ideas for revolution were NOT perfect. If they were, then EVERY person would have gotten behind them. You dont KNOW me enough to say I ignore social issues and am "pro establishment". Because I disagree with some of YOUR ideas?

Colin Powell speaks up for our people, guess what he isnt... a mason or in a black fraternity and has obtained a status NO black military officer has before him. Obviously one of the "black leaders", but YOU dont mention him with the freemasonic and black greek tyranny. Why is that?

"My philosophy"? Exactly what is my philosophy? Or are you overstepping the boundaries of personal knowledge about someone? You dont even know so much as my first name, but you somehow know "my philosphy".

And again with the empty statements. "All the bullshit & misleading" my frat members when you dont even know which fraternity I belong to. You make yourself look VERY stupid by assuming so much and lumping people together because of organizations they share.

Are you saying Kilpatrick is an upstanding mayor? For the record, I think he is a piece of shit and abused just about every power he could. What I dont think, is that is somehow related to him being a member of Alpha Phi Alpha.

 

[musicology1985]

why don't u want to listen to my bullshit?

stfu.......................

 

[major pain]

stfu.......................

Poor fella... always so angry. You'll come to terms with things one day.

 

[whar67]

In the same period, Black household wealth inched up from a base of $2,000 per family to only $5,000.

I call bullshit! The 'average' black family made $5,000 in 2007?!?! I have friends on welfare making $6.5K

 

[major pain]

I call bullshit! The 'average' black family made $5,000 in 2007?!?! I have friends on welfare making $6.5K

He didnt say income, he said wealth. As in ownership of property, cash, stocks etc. There is sad truth to it and that is black people usually do not save like other cultures.