joeyfkncrakk
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I say Reddick for Melo seems fair... slide Austin Rivers to the 2... clippers can't resign Blake CP3 & JJ
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joeyfkncrakk;c-9626395 said:I think If Carmelo opened up his options a little bit more, The Washington Wizards would actually be the best look for him... ain't he from the DMV area?!
The Wizards are the second best team in the East silently, add Melo to Wall & Beal u got a real competition for Cleveland in the east
BedStuy;c-9637684 said:In the beginning of the season, Melo didn't have the patience to wait on a developing point guard and was glad that phil acquired Rose, Lee, Noah and Jennings. He even said he never played with a point guard like rose who's not really a playmaker. He commended phil and said that it's time to win now even tho signing Noah to that flawed contract was a mistake. The whole experiment turned out to be bad. Last summer Phil was working with the options he had. The Knicks had no picks and it was impossible to get a playmaker like Conley. If Knicks could've acquired him they would've kept RoLo and Jerian and still acquire jennings who is still serviceable as a backup.
I'm a big Melo fan but it's best that he waive his no trade clause and find a team that's willing to take him. Phil is going to gut the team again but this time he's not going to cater to Melo needs. So it doesn't make sense for him to stay.
If phil could move Rose before the deadline that would be so sweet. Rose is delusional if he thinks he's getting resigned by the Knicks this summer.
With all the drama that's going on with the Knicks organization, Melo and Phil can play hardball all they want. Phil isn't gonna cave in and Melo's door is closing and has a good 3 maybe 4 years. I think he should waive his ntc and go to the Clippers but not for nothing. It has to involve a 3, 4, or 5 team deal that includes Knicks getting some picks and sending guys on the roster that can contribute to others teams come playoff time. There's a 50 percent chance that some blockbuster trade might happen before the deadline but i won't be surprised if Phil does nothing either.
The league is in bad shape anyway. Every year they say the upcoming draft will be the best but turns out to be not so which is why over 50 percent of teams are below .500. I can't remember seeing some shit like this before. Won't be surprised if this tank race set the league back.
Anyway, Melo my dude but i'm on phil's side because I think he has the vision to rebuild for the betterment of the Knicks future. He made a few mistakes as a rookie president but he made some good decisions too. He knows how to evaluate talent and i trust him to make the right decision this upcoming draft when he will most likely target a point guard. Melo didn't make the all star roster so he has time to rest and think about his family, future or whatever stupid ass brand he wants to call it. If he doesn't waive before the deadline he better be content with a rebuild because that's what phil is most likely gonna do. With or without him.
Jamaican Curry Bwoy;c-9648192 said:BedStuy;c-9637684 said:In the beginning of the season, Melo didn't have the patience to wait on a developing point guard and was glad that phil acquired Rose, Lee, Noah and Jennings. He even said he never played with a point guard like rose who's not really a playmaker. He commended phil and said that it's time to win now even tho signing Noah to that flawed contract was a mistake. The whole experiment turned out to be bad. Last summer Phil was working with the options he had. The Knicks had no picks and it was impossible to get a playmaker like Conley. If Knicks could've acquired him they would've kept RoLo and Jerian and still acquire jennings who is still serviceable as a backup.
I'm a big Melo fan but it's best that he waive his no trade clause and find a team that's willing to take him. Phil is going to gut the team again but this time he's not going to cater to Melo needs. So it doesn't make sense for him to stay.
If phil could move Rose before the deadline that would be so sweet. Rose is delusional if he thinks he's getting resigned by the Knicks this summer.
With all the drama that's going on with the Knicks organization, Melo and Phil can play hardball all they want. Phil isn't gonna cave in and Melo's door is closing and has a good 3 maybe 4 years. I think he should waive his ntc and go to the Clippers but not for nothing. It has to involve a 3, 4, or 5 team deal that includes Knicks getting some picks and sending guys on the roster that can contribute to others teams come playoff time. There's a 50 percent chance that some blockbuster trade might happen before the deadline but i won't be surprised if Phil does nothing either.
The league is in bad shape anyway. Every year they say the upcoming draft will be the best but turns out to be not so which is why over 50 percent of teams are below .500. I can't remember seeing some shit like this before. Won't be surprised if this tank race set the league back.
Anyway, Melo my dude but i'm on phil's side because I think he has the vision to rebuild for the betterment of the Knicks future. He made a few mistakes as a rookie president but he made some good decisions too. He knows how to evaluate talent and i trust him to make the right decision this upcoming draft when he will most likely target a point guard. Melo didn't make the all star roster so he has time to rest and think about his family, future or whatever stupid ass brand he wants to call it. If he doesn't waive before the deadline he better be content with a rebuild because that's what phil is most likely gonna do. With or without him.
The Knicks need to blow up their front office. They have the worst front Office in the league, they make terrible decisions in scouting for players of good character.
So Phil Jackson reached the correct conclusion after a recent meeting with an increasingly impatient Carmelo Anthony: As long as Anthony is here and All-Star capable, the 31-year-old’s career timeline should be placated. If not, what’s the point of paying him $124 million with a no-trade clause?
“One of my questions to Carmelo was, you know, we haven’t made the playoffs and now this is three years, two years, since I’ve been here — are we moving quickly enough for you and your anticipation of trying to be into a competitive playoff situation?” Jackson said. “I think that was our conversation and established the fact of his desire, the idea that he is getting into an age where things have to happen for him. So we decided to activate ourselves.
This is Anthony’s responsibility now. His burden to win games. No more excuses or demands through the media. That was the implication Friday from Jackson, who reversed the roles after a year of Anthony publicly pleading that the team president be better at his job.
Jackson revealed Anthony asked for a point guard in their meeting, and how he, Jackson, quickly turned that request into Derrick Rose. Once the deal was completed, the Knicks were “activated,” to steal Jackson’s buzzword, into their win-now plan that aligns more with Anthony’s desires. Aside from the presence of Kristaps Porzingis — which should never be underestimated — it’s like the first two years under Jackson don’t exist. A waste of time and triangle seminars.”
joeyfkncrakk;c-9626395 said:I think If Carmelo opened up his options a little bit more, The Washington Wizards would actually be the best look for him... ain't he from the DMV area?!
The Wizards are the second best team in the East silently, add Melo to Wall & Beal u got a real competition for Cleveland in the east
joeyfkncrakk;c-9799125 said:joeyfkncrakk;c-9626395 said:I think If Carmelo opened up his options a little bit more, The Washington Wizards would actually be the best look for him... ain't he from the DMV area?!
The Wizards are the second best team in the East silently, add Melo to Wall & Beal u got a real competition for Cleveland in the east
Melo needs to open his options aside of CLE & LAC,I still think Carmelo would be a perfect fit and upgrade for Washington at the 4 for Markieff Morris...
I would also encourage the Spurs to trade Aldridge for Carmelo Anthony... Popovich is who Carmelo needs and I could see Kawhi & Melo being dumb effective and gives San Antonio what they needed in Lamarcus this postseason, a high level 2nd option that's not afraid to take over with Kawhi out.. the ball movement on SA would help Melo too because it would find him open in his key spots to work... I think Popovich could make Melo a winner
joeyfkncrakk;c-9799125 said:joeyfkncrakk;c-9626395 said:I think If Carmelo opened up his options a little bit more, The Washington Wizards would actually be the best look for him... ain't he from the DMV area?!
The Wizards are the second best team in the East silently, add Melo to Wall & Beal u got a real competition for Cleveland in the east
I would also encourage the Spurs to trade Aldridge for Carmelo Anthony... Popovich is who Carmelo needs and I could see Kawhi & Melo being dumb effective and gives San Antonio what they needed in Lamarcus this postseason, a high level 2nd option that's not afraid to take over with Kawhi out.. the ball movement on SA would help Melo too because it would find him open in his key spots to work... I think Popovich could make Melo a winner
AZTG;c-9799238 said:joeyfkncrakk;c-9799125 said:joeyfkncrakk;c-9626395 said:I think If Carmelo opened up his options a little bit more, The Washington Wizards would actually be the best look for him... ain't he from the DMV area?!
The Wizards are the second best team in the East silently, add Melo to Wall & Beal u got a real competition for Cleveland in the east
Melo needs to open his options aside of CLE & LAC,I still think Carmelo would be a perfect fit and upgrade for Washington at the 4 for Markieff Morris...
I would also encourage the Spurs to trade Aldridge for Carmelo Anthony... Popovich is who Carmelo needs and I could see Kawhi & Melo being dumb effective and gives San Antonio what they needed in Lamarcus this postseason, a high level 2nd option that's not afraid to take over with Kawhi out.. the ball movement on SA would help Melo too because it would find him open in his key spots to work... I think Popovich could make Melo a winner
You worried about Melo winning or the Knicks getting a good return?
I want Melo to do good, im a fan, but fuck Melo doing good when if it means the Knicks do bad.
I ask that to ask, whats the point of trading Melo for Aldridge if you the Knicks?
Why trade an aging star who doesnt fit in the new direction the NBA is going in, doesnt defend, and is inefficient, for a aging star who doesnt fit the direction the NBA is going in, doesnt defend, and is inefficient?
Fuck that man. I rather trade Melo for nothing than take Alridge back. That trade does nothing for the Knicks.
Anthony’s game has prevented Porzingis from developing into more than a 7-foot-3 shooting guard. After all, if Porzingis’ inside game has improved — as it, by now, certainly should have — how would we know? He has spent his first two NBA seasons loitering on the outside, because that is where the ball is and from where it is shot as per Anthony’s presence.
When is the last time, for example, the Knicks ran a baseline screen to free Porzingis inside? How often did we see Porzingis hit with an inside pass off any kind of pick? How often did he post-up inside against defenders, most far shorter than he?
Porzingis couldn’t be found inside because he was outside, playing catch with Anthony in pursuit of the same 3-point shot with 3 seconds left on the shot clock that could have been had with 18 seconds left on the shot clock.
Last season, Anthony averaged six 3-point shots per game; Porzingis averaged five. How did that work out for the Knicks?
At 7-3, 21-years-old and agile, why has Porzingis, two years in, presented no worries, let alone an occasional threat, to opponents as an inside scorer? Why hasn’t Porzingis helped — or been able to help — the Knicks become a better team?.................
Why, at 7-3 and 7.2 rebounds per game, was Porzingis last season just the 35th-best rebounder in the NBA? Why, at 7.3 per, was he 41st the season before?
Why hasn’t his game developed beyond the obvious, bringing aid and comfort to opponents?
How many times must we have to hear MSG’s Clyde Frazier suggest Anthony, ejected three times last season, stop complaining to the refs and instead run back to play defense? How many times has the final, decisive shot been predictably taken by Anthony far from the basket against up-close-and-personal double teams?
By now, Porzingis should have at least developed into a pretty good small forward.
WHY HE SHOULD BE TRADED
Just as Phil Jackson feared right after Porzingis was drafted, players that tall and that lanky are extremely susceptible to injuries. Indeed, he has missed 26 games in his first two seasons, the most potentially serious being an Achilles tendon strain last season.
He routinely gets bullied at every turning.
Despite his size, KP is relatively ineffective when playing the low post.
He’s apt to get faked off his feet by smaller players in the paint.
But his general attitude is the most troubling.
KP and his brother have often complained about how poorly the Knicks treat their players. This undoubtedly has to do with the negative relationship that exists between Jackson and Carmelo Anthony. For sure, Melo’s in-house dissatisfactions have unduly influenced Porzingis.
Which is unquestionably why KP blew off the exit interview with Jackson and left for home without saying goodbye.
In other words, in his youthful naivety, the young man is ignorant of the NBA’s political realities. Trades, forced trades, alienation between management and players, disgruntled players who, for whatever reasons, resist their coach’s game plans — this is all business as usual in the wonderful world of the NBA.
Porzingis and his brother Janis, who helps represent him, have also said that they want to play with a winner — which, they say, would hopefully turn out to be the case in New York.
KP is locked into the Knicks for what amounts to two more seasons, i.e., a guaranteed contract for next season, plus a team option for 2018-19. For the 2019-20 season, the Knicks can match any offers he might receive from another team.
So, given the likelihood that the Knicks will not be the kind of winners that the brothers Porzingis require during the next two seasons, the chances are that New York would lose him in 2019-20.
Why not trade him now while he’s healthy and has optimum appeal?
If so, what might the Knicks get in return?
It would probably amount to two or three starters, which would probably include an all-star-caliber player, plus at least a No. 1 draft pick.
The resolution entirely depends on Jackson’s vision of the Knicks’ future. Unless it will be renewed, his own contract will expire after the 2018-19 season. Is he dedicated to drastically improving the Knicks’ fortunes within the next two seasons? If so, he might be moved to keep Porzingis.
Or, is Jackson’s view more long term? In that case, he might be thinking of making a deal.
Even so, the biggest consideration might come down to the quality of the players, as well as the length and cost of their contracts, that trading Porzingis could conceivably bring.
In my nearly 40-year friendship with Jackson, the only thing I know for sure is that it’s impossible to know for sure what he might do in any given situation.