So what exactly do black people expect from whites?

[EuropeanAndWhite]

all i want from whites is respect and equal judgement and protection under the law, everything else, we blacks gotta do ourselves

well. thats what everyone living in a so called democracy wants.

BUT i guess you dont specifically want this from whites but more from your government, right? u see where im going?

 

[EuropeanAndWhite]

@judahxulu : thats my man!

damn everytime i open a thread only the people who are on the same page anyway are answering lol.

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

thats not a fact. pretty sure you haven't asked 5 black people what they want, much less all of them to make such a claim.

actually i have asked each and every black person in africa

i skipped african americans because they dont really count as black

 

[judahxulu]

actually i have asked each and every black person in africa

i skipped african americans because they dont really count as black

lol...damn took you long enough. youre actually starting to be funny again. you been falling off for a while, playa....

 

[StillFaggyAF]

well. thats what everyone living in a so called democracy wants.

BUT i guess you dont specifically want this from whites but more from your government, right? u see where im going?

i guess.....

 

[StillFaggyAF]

thats what the labels 'black" and "white" are all about anyway. social classes. caste not race per se because most of us are mixed up ethnically anyway. the whole race politics game is nothing but Hegelian dialectic.

droppin' knowledge brother *salutes.

 

[judahxulu]

droppin' knowledge brother *salutes.

to quote pre-faggified cee-lo "we complain about being black and they mad cause they aint black no mo'"

 

[cobbland]

Blacks should expect nothing from white people except duplicity and amoral agendas. The sooner this is come to realization widespread the sooner Blacks will ave no choice but to become self sufficient again, and stop looking for justice in the courthouse. Justice, fairness, and equality are but vain concepts in those halls. No oppressor in history has ever given justice to his victims.

However, Black people tend to look for these things, justice, equal opportunity to show that they are human just as good, suitable. This thing should not be, for if you turn the mirror of the past upon these people the pedestal of beauty, intelligence and divinity they bestow upon themselves to set the standard for the world is a house of lies. When Black people realize this, they'll understand that whites are human and far from the standard, then they will cease wanting things from them, and only expect the absolute best of themselves.

Let me give you a word of the philosophy of reform. The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. The conflict has been exciting, agitating, all-absorbing, and for the time being, putting all other tumults to silence. It must do this or it does nothing. If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.

This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. In the light of these ideas, Negroes will be hunted at the North and held and flogged at the South so long as they submit to those devilish outrages and make no resistance, either moral or physical. Men may not get all they pay for in this world, but they must certainly pay for all they get. If we ever get free from the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and if needs be, by our lives and the lives of others.

A person has the universal right to seek whatever means necessary to obtain justice. that is the right of revolution. as douglass said it will come either with words, blows, or both.

to answer the question....nothing at all but more of the same.

poor white people are either easy to get along with or their inferiority complex makes them racist, middle class white people generally feel safe and entitled and are cool until their illusion of security starts to dissipate and rich whites generally fuck us all over in a colorblind fashion with exceptions to all three generalities i listed. overall, black people need to expect nothing from whites but more from themselves and one another and hold all parties involved accountable for those expectations.

You can't have a revolution against people, only against systems. There has to be a global revolution that changes the way power is distributed and the way wealth is distributed. You have to know who you're fighting, and people don't understand the scope. It's not against the white man per se, but against any people, any organization that would seek to benefit from the systematic abuses that occur internationally.

I've run with a lot of so-called organizations for the people in Chicago and I can tell you assuredly that the best way to revolt against the system is refusing to participate in it and create your own physically and ideologically separate from the previous one. Otherwise its just proud begging.

thats what the labels 'black" and "white" are all about anyway. social classes. caste not race per se because most of us are mixed up ethnically anyway. the whole race politics game is nothing but Hegelian dialectic.

Agree with the above.

[video=youtube;qqq2_J7Q7cw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqq2_J7Q7cw&feature=relmfu[/video]

At the 4:23 mark.

A lot of great minds think alike.

 

[LurkdogAchilles]

well not putting yourself in an incriminating situation is a good start but it still doesnt excuse that the justice system has its flaws. i.e. getting more jail time for crack cocaine than for powder and we all know where crack is to be found and where the other stuff. etc, etc..

yea we know the system is flawed, but if its common knowledge that the system is flawed don't do things that will put you before a flawed system, knowing you will lose.
if you must do those things, do it better/smarter. i hate when people live illegally but do it in such a stupid way that its inevitable that they will get caught.
and if all else fails, and you get caught, don't complain about the justice system because you knew about it beforehand

 

[EuropeanAndWhite]

Blacks should expect nothing from white people except duplicity and amoral agendas. The sooner this is come to realization widespread the sooner Blacks will ave no choice but to become self sufficient again, and stop looking for justice in the courthouse. Justice, fairness, and equality are but vain concepts in those halls. No oppressor in history has ever given justice to his victims.

However, Black people tend to look for these things, justice, equal opportunity to show that they are human just as good, suitable. This thing should not be, for if you turn the mirror of the past upon these people the pedestal of beauty, intelligence and divinity they bestow upon themselves to set the standard for the world is a house of lies. When Black people realize this, they'll understand that whites are human and far from the standard, then they will cease wanting things from them, and only expect the absolute best of themselves.

re-read your post. the bolded is the key point i think. and im far from wanting to tell anybody how they should live (especially since white people are to blame for the things you listed).

 

[PPLSIntiative]

re-read your post. the bolded is the key point i think. and im far from wanting to tell anybody how they should live (especially since white people are to blame for the things you listed).

What's your point exactly? Was their something opaque about those statements?

 

[EuropeanAndWhite]

What's your point exactly? Was their something opaque about those statements?

nah i think i understood them the right way. just wanted to give them some emphasis.

i didnt make the thread for trolling around or anything. english isnt my first language so my choice of words maybe doesnt get the point through sometimes lol.

 

[JayToTheZ]

Hugs and apologies.

Hugs and apologies for something we din't do?
The generations of white people who put black people through all that shit are dead.
I'm not going to lie, There's still allot of racist white people, but why should i be punished for shit i din't do?

 

[Huruma]

I expect them to behave in the way that they typically do.

 

[Hypernova]

Expect? Nothing really, just keep helping the machine run like other citizens.

For the ones in power, the whites who actually matter, ideally, I'd hope for consistency and fairness. The more radical extremists, militant types...stay away from me and no problem.

 

[Hypernova]

I wish it were that easy - The entire administration is corrupt and deceitful. I can't believe we have allowed this to happen - The President says Americans are lazy,the Attorney General tells us were cowards & he's in charge of THE DOJ....WTF? The CBC tells some fellow Americans to go to hell.....there a pattern here yet everyone is afraid to speak up/out - oh NO!! don't EVER question the actions of superior black leaders.

by militant, I mean those seeking actual violence on people like myself.

Sure, there are violent militant groups from all races, but I'm answering TS's question.