Logic escapes people when hell breaks loose.
Pieces of the building were falling within the core of the tower. Giant pieces of metal/steel were banging around.
It's not hard to figure out that these loud sounds were just that.
Firemen trapped on stairway B stated they heard the building creaking and moaning before it collapsed. They could hear every floor pan caking. Not one of these firemen, who all survived the collapse, heard an explosion before or after. Not one of them was injured from an explosion.
Pieces of the building were falling within the core of the tower. Giant pieces of metal/steel were banging around.
It's not hard to figure out that these loud sounds were just that.
Firemen trapped on stairway B stated they heard the building creaking and moaning before it collapsed. They could hear every floor pan caking. Not one of these firemen, who all survived the collapse, heard an explosion before or after. Not one of them was injured from an explosion.
blackamerica;8350769 said:
Evidence for a controlled demo hasn't been provided.
Thermite evidence hasn't been provided.
Building 7 being demo'd hasn't been provided.
The evidence that the buildings fell to major structural damage, plus fires, prove that's why it fell.
Building 7 took a lot of damage after the towers fell. Fires burned for 5-6 hours. It was already known the building was going to fall due to the firemen watching/listening. Windows were popping, due the the sagging structure. Building was creaking and moaning.
The building was structured with 3 trusses. One gave way, which is when the very top of the building started to crumble, then, without that full support, it fell.
So, you're going to implicate firemen? Port authority? What about the volunteers who helped with clean up and search?
The comparison everyone does with building 7 is with that of other buildings, structured differently, with concrete cores, instead of steel trusses, and show that those buildings didn't fall due to fire.
Although, one thing is missed. The steel fails, the concrete cores don't. WTC 7 had steel, not concrete cores.
Do better bruh.
blackamerica;8350769 said:
NIGGA THATS NOT EVIDENCE you gotdam re-tard. Thats suspicion. Good! We should ALL use suspicion, dont accept anything at face value . But then you make a decision baed on everything involved, including, yo,k know, real time footage and shit.
But that's what conspiracy theorists do, they provide QUESTIONS. No answers. And just as easily as you researched and found those SAME questions, you can just as easily research and find them all debunked. There WAS wreckage found. Planes not shot down, so now you're widening the level of complicity. So air traffic control in all 3,statea are,involved, huh . From the president all the way down to entry level air traffic control . Wow, this thing ws huge bro...
Not to mention most of your "evidence" is not proven and the sources are biased and crackpot. Websites that i wouldn't even wanna click on outta fear of a virus: 911-was-a-hoax.com Kill your fukin self
Thats conspiracy theorists in a nutshell:
Dont believe what THEY tell you...
But ayo lemme show you this video my man made real quick, believe this doe
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Bruh said "NO EVIDENCE OF PLANE WRECKAGE FOUND AT THE PENTAGON"
Yet..
^ all on the pentagon lawn
Plus this wreckage; wheels, engine, people in plane all found INSIDE THE PENTAGON
PLUS EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS WHO ALL SAID THEY SEEN A PLANE
Well over 100 people
And I ignore the evidence?
How did the plane wreckage make it on the lawn? Did the middle or smaller jet deploy it before it struck? Did people run out from hidden places to do this?
HOW SWAY! HOW!
Yet..
riddlerap;8350283 said:
that damn missile.. with plane parts in it. fuCK
^ all on the pentagon lawn
Plus this wreckage; wheels, engine, people in plane all found INSIDE THE PENTAGON
PLUS EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS WHO ALL SAID THEY SEEN A PLANE
Well over 100 people
And I ignore the evidence?
How did the plane wreckage make it on the lawn? Did the middle or smaller jet deploy it before it struck? Did people run out from hidden places to do this?
HOW SWAY! HOW!
The support that 9/11 was an inside job has changed, a lot.
It was heavily supported by the "bomb" "squibs" "missiles" type shit. Now they've gone away from that and use the Larry Silverstein/insurance companies, groups of people writing reports, military exercises, demo companies, building companies, people avoiding meetings/flights, blah blah blah
Just further implicating hundreds more.
The creators of loose change have stopped. It all started as a school project that turned into a job for them. Two of them don't even believe in that shit, only one dude does.
Should speak volumes.
It was heavily supported by the "bomb" "squibs" "missiles" type shit. Now they've gone away from that and use the Larry Silverstein/insurance companies, groups of people writing reports, military exercises, demo companies, building companies, people avoiding meetings/flights, blah blah blah
Just further implicating hundreds more.
The creators of loose change have stopped. It all started as a school project that turned into a job for them. Two of them don't even believe in that shit, only one dude does.
Should speak volumes.
Great article on Bush and Bon Laden ties
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4319898
Bush founded a oil company with Bin Laden's brother in 1979. Crazy
And if you know anything about Bin Laden, his family is huge, they are STILL sprinkled throughout legit society. Wealthy and rich. They are not 'like him' , they are not terrorists
More than anything, that shows me Bush n co went political and wanted to distance themselves
Perhaps explains why Osama wsnt caught during bush presidency
Perhaps explains how he operated with relative impunity in the 90s
Explains complicity in 9/11? No. Doesn't connect. Bush 1 was already n office, why not then. Vybthe time Bush took ifice he pkiy was already undrway. Technically Clinton missd Osama, not Bush 2.
Objectivity. A lost art on the IC
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4319898
Bush founded a oil company with Bin Laden's brother in 1979. Crazy
And if you know anything about Bin Laden, his family is huge, they are STILL sprinkled throughout legit society. Wealthy and rich. They are not 'like him' , they are not terrorists
More than anything, that shows me Bush n co went political and wanted to distance themselves
Perhaps explains why Osama wsnt caught during bush presidency
Perhaps explains how he operated with relative impunity in the 90s
Explains complicity in 9/11? No. Doesn't connect. Bush 1 was already n office, why not then. Vybthe time Bush took ifice he pkiy was already undrway. Technically Clinton missd Osama, not Bush 2.
Objectivity. A lost art on the IC
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not_osirus_jenkins
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The government would kill countless amounts of people to fuel their agenda. It's been done in numerous societies. Don't put ANYTHING past the govt. They plotted to kill a nonviolent civil rights leader. They brought in drugs to fuel a war that wasn't theirs that resulted in the crack epidemic. They injected syphilis into black men to just see what happens.
not_osirus_jenkins;8351186 said:
So you have no actual substance to add about THIS particular event...
But watch this!:
All the US' fuckery is covert and clandestine. Covert, clandestine
They gon try some slick shit (supplying crack) , hide some slick shit (Iran Contra), lie about some shit (WMDs) and/or take out ONE guy
It is not their modus operandi to make wholesale conspiracies with various moving parts, ACROSS multiple agencies, and in BROAD FUKING DAYLIGHT for all the world to see, let alone with thousands of casualties
And ahain there's that THEY again. Niggas dont know any better, but its basically IMPOSSIBLE to get multiple agencies working together, and let yall tell it military, FBI, local police, TSA, and the president of the united states all worked together. They are all in concert working as "the government "
Its truely comical
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S2J;8351517 said:
There are probably 20 ppl in the world that orchestrated this and all of them made more money then they could ever use. This was about power and money. Power you will never see and money you can't imagine. These are blue bloods. Lineage from people that owned and killed slaves and made family fortunes doing it. The people in those meetings that you or I or anyone not white will ever attend. You think they give a fuck about any working class American that died in those attacks? Your faith in humanity will get you killed fish. I woulda done the same goddamn thing. I'd kill 3000+ people for a billion.
blackamerica
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S2J;8351517 said:
Exactly. The government has a HISTORY of committing criminal acts against its own ppl. Is it really that far fetched for them to stage a terrorist attack? The funny part is William Cooper PREDICTED the government would stage a attack using airliners prior to it 9/11, and he was eventually murdered. I just laugh at dumb niggaz that act like the government ain't capable of false flag events smh
Brother_Five
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I have never researched it with any real vigor.
on the surface, it appears that the intelligence was there at least. Meaning that an argument can be made that it was preventable.
on the surface, it appears that the intelligence was there at least. Meaning that an argument can be made that it was preventable.
blackamerica;8351575 said:
See, this is what i mean. PLEASE READ:
Here is a transcript of EXACTLY what William Coper said , as well as the context:
Clifnotes: Bill Cooper did NOT predict 9/11. A report had just ran on Bin Laden (yes, he existed proor to 9/11, people knew who he was) and in THAT piece the reporter, based on,interviewing Bin Laden, says: within 3 weeks Bin Laden wil attack he US and Israel.
Cooper then piggybacks off that and says 'if it happens its 'awfully convenient " and OBL must
be a patsy. THAT is what he said. He opined based on an EXISTING report. Thats not a gotdamn prediction
Here's the transcript of Bill Cooper
[Spoiler ]
" Supposedly a CNN reporter found Osama bin Laden, took a television camera crew with him, went in to Osama bin laden's hideout, interviewed him and his top leadership, and he came out and told everybody 'within three weeks Osama bin laden is going to attack the United States and Israel.' Now don't you think that's kind of strange folks? You see because the largest intelligence apparatus in the world with the biggest budget in the history of the world has been looking for osama bin laden for years and years and years and can't find him. some doofus jerkoff reporter with a camera crew waltzes right into his hideout and interviews him and i'm telling you be prepared for a major attack , but it won't be osama bin laden, it will be those behind the new world order. I wonder what "osama bin laden's" targets are supposed to be? And if this doesn't materialize within the next 2-3 weeks it will eventually materialize because they haven't succeeded in getting the guns out of the hand of the American people, nor have they succeeded in taking our freedoms away. And so I can tell you with a certainty they must do something terrible in order to stop this backlash and regain the sympathy of the mass herds of sheeple out there. "
[/spoiler ]
Here's some digging someone did online, bc like i said none of this is new. This is the June 2001 article that has for 15 years made people think Bill Cooper "predicted" 9-11
It looks to me like he was referring to the Reuters article which appeared a few days prior, and in the process replaced MBC with CNN and 'atttack US and Israeli interests' with 'attack the US and Israel':
http://www.afghanistannewscenter.com/news/2001/june/jun...
TV Report: Bin Laden Fighters Plan Anti-US Attack
Saturday, June 23, 2001 5:46 PM EST
LONDON (Reuters) - Followers of exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden are planning a major attack on U.S and Israeli interests in the next two weeks, the Arabic satellite television channel MBC reported on Saturday.
The station, monitored by the BBC, broadcast a report from a correspondent in the Pakistani town of Quetta, who said he had met bin Laden two days ago in Afghanistan.
The MBC correspondent said he had met bin Laden at an unspecified location some three hours' drive from the Afghan city of Kandahar. He had also talked with some of bin Laden's followers.
``All of them affirm that the next two weeks will witness a big surprise. A severe blow is expected against U.S. and Israeli interests worldwide,'' the reporter said.[/spoiler ]
Also, as we now now, reports in the intelligence community came out in June that Bin Laden was 'poised to attack the US' . Clinton the NIGHT BEFORE 9/11 spoke about Bin Laden, as if he was asked about him. Bin Laden was 'trending' . He did not drop into the equation overnight
Bill Cooper was not a threat. He was killed over sme OTHER shit , he was a gun enthusiast who bucked when they served a warrant on him and he got killed
I just killed the fuck outta your little conspiracy theory patron saint.
http://www.afghanistannewscenter.com/news/2001/june/jun...
TV Report: Bin Laden Fighters Plan Anti-US Attack
Saturday, June 23, 2001 5:46 PM EST
LONDON (Reuters) - Followers of exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden are planning a major attack on U.S and Israeli interests in the next two weeks, the Arabic satellite television channel MBC reported on Saturday.
The station, monitored by the BBC, broadcast a report from a correspondent in the Pakistani town of Quetta, who said he had met bin Laden two days ago in Afghanistan.
The MBC correspondent said he had met bin Laden at an unspecified location some three hours' drive from the Afghan city of Kandahar. He had also talked with some of bin Laden's followers.
``All of them affirm that the next two weeks will witness a big surprise. A severe blow is expected against U.S. and Israeli interests worldwide,'' the reporter said.[/spoiler ]
Also, as we now now, reports in the intelligence community came out in June that Bin Laden was 'poised to attack the US' . Clinton the NIGHT BEFORE 9/11 spoke about Bin Laden, as if he was asked about him. Bin Laden was 'trending' . He did not drop into the equation overnight
Bill Cooper was not a threat. He was killed over sme OTHER shit , he was a gun enthusiast who bucked when they served a warrant on him and he got killed
I just killed the fuck outta your little conspiracy theory patron saint.
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