So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

[xxCivicxx]

http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4

Again, you keep posting trash as if it's proving your point. You just posted a video of a guy on youtube counting out the seconds of sound that he listened to in a 3rd hand video when YOU KNOW THERE ARE BETTER WAYS THAN THAT TO MEASURE THE FALL SPEED OF A BUILDING.

Stop it, you are really embarrassing yourself. Notice how the vid you posted has comments disabled and has almost as many dislikes as likes. Going by these facts compared to the video I posted it's your goofy video that comes off as the "conspiracy nut" angle

 

[xxCivicxx]

See how you're spending all of your time talking nonsense instead of disproving anything that I have posted in this thread?

Again, take it to court bruh. You'll make history, since you're so smart and were in a complex physics class.

Take it to court.

You keep saying this and it's really making me question your intelligence

Would you agree that the Patriot Act is VERY VERY unconstitutional, or is that just more "truther" talk?

Because if you agree that the Patriot Act(the very thing that set up the NSA and all of the government social media spying) is unconstitutional then you should be able to USE YOUR BRAIN and deduce that the courts are clearly just as compromised as the rest of the government, since they didn't completely destroy the Patriot Act legislation back in 2001(SOMETHING THE COURTS HAVE THE POWER TO DO BY WAY OF THE CONSTITUTION)

What kind of result do you expect from a judicial system that DEFAULTS to the Patriot Act? Why are you trying to make me walk you through this?

 

[VIBE]

Free fall speed of the towers is clocked at 9 seconds by the "truthers", both the link and video show that at 9 seconds, the building had not yet completed its collapse.

It fell slower than the jumpers (10 seconds) and slower than the claim of "free fall speed" (9 seconds).

If you want to dismiss that, then okay. That's up to you. You're ignorant to facts.

 

[riddlerap]

 

[VIBE]

Shut the fuck up about the patriot act.

We are disputing the towers, explosives and free fall speed. You've yet to prove there were explosives or even evidence of them. Not one witness in the clean up seen any type of evidence linked to explosives. Not one witness seen thermite. Not one witness heard explosions. Not one witness seen flashes.

Where is your proof? You keep presenting these outside issues, which could be linked through "LIHOP", Let it happen on purpose, for their own benefits. I can definitely lean toward that, but not toward, "the government brought down the towers with explosives".

Tell me, where were these explosives placed? From the top to bottom? From below the impact zone down? They strategically placed explosives knowing that flight 11 would strike floors 92-98? And 175 would hit floors 78-84?

The impacts themselves, as told by survivors, shook the building violently, and felt as if the towers were going to topple.

The jet fuel explosions traveled through the elevator shafts and exited openings on floors. Why wouldn't the impact, jolt and shaft explosions/fires set off any charges?

In order to demo, they would have to expose ALL the core columns and set charges on every floor. The problem? The impact explosion traveled through the core.

Where is the evidence? Plumes? Or better yet, the escaping air pressure?

Find me one piece of evidence. You can't. Even demo experts say that this isn't characteristics of a planned demo. The building did not fall in on itself, it fell outwards. It created 16-acres of a debris field.

Where is your evidence?

 

[riddlerap]

that damn missile.. with plane parts in it. fuCK

 

[CracceR]

yea

 

[Jabu_Rule]

It was very obvious that the towers fell on their own and that hijackers took over the planes. I've watched the videos over and over from various angles and multiple angles and listened to witness accounts. You can see the point where the building collapsed and the weight of the building above the multi floor crash points also contributed. You're talking 50+ stories. There there were the accounts of jet fuel coming down elevator shafts and the weight of the impact alone. The question of if bush new was answered. They new, but did nothing. Did they do nothing because they didn't connect the dots do to hubris? Or did they let it fly to see what would happen and how they could benefit? I don't think anyone would let the pentagon be on the target list nor the most import point of wealth for the people who run America. I do think that Bush took advantage of the ensuing war with Afghanistan to go into Iraq. He was shown to be incompetent on many fronts not related to 911 or the Wars. Just look at the state of the economy. Osama was a very capable planner and the towers were attackers only years before by his people. Honestly, it was a brilliant plan pulled off with the most basic resources (a kitchen knife, and a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator).

 

[xxCivicxx]

Shut the fuck up about the patriot act.

What? Regardless of whatever else is the current topic of discussion, this still is a major issue when it comes to 9/11 so why would you ignorantly try and dismiss it?

We are disputing the towers, explosives and free fall speed. You've yet to prove there were explosives or even evidence of them. Not one witness in the clean up seen any type of evidence linked to explosives. Not one witness seen thermite. Not one witness heard explosions. Not one witness seen flashes.

WE ARE DEBATING THE ENTIRE SITUATION. And many people heard explosions. Watch those videos and stop trying to derail the discussion

Where is your proof? You keep presenting these outside issues, which could be linked through "LIHOP", Let it happen on purpose, for their own benefits. I can definitely lean toward that, but not toward, "the government brought down the towers with explosives".

What outside information am I presenting? I keep telling you to watch those videos and learn but for some reason you think ignoring fact somehow makes you right?

Tell me, where were these explosives placed? From the top to bottom? From below the impact zone down? They strategically placed explosives knowing that flight 11 would strike floors 92-98? And 175 would hit floors 78-84?

The impacts themselves, as told by survivors, shook the building violently, and felt as if the towers were going to topple.

Watch the videos. And you're incorrect. Many witnesses at ground zero stated that after the FIRST explosion above them, they heard following explosions below them

The jet fuel explosions traveled through the elevator shafts and exited openings on floors. Why wouldn't the impact, jolt and shaft explosions/fires set off any charges?

So they felt the elevators on the first floor exploding from 30+ floors up?

And again, don't insult my intelligence. There are MANY types of bombs that can withstand impact before being detonated remotely. You and I both know this

In order to demo, they would have to expose ALL the core columns and set charges on every floor. The problem? The impact explosion traveled through the core.

No, they wouldn't. Again, you and I both know this

Where is the evidence? Plumes? Or better yet, the escaping air pressure?

But you do see plumes when the towers are falling

Find me one piece of evidence. You can't. Even demo experts say that this isn't characteristics of a planned demo. The building did not fall in on itself, it fell outwards. It created 16-acres of a debris field.

Where is your evidence?

Again false. If the buildings fell outward, how come they didn't didn't do more damage to the buildings around them?

And by that I mean, any part of the wtc falling on another building should also collapse that secondary building as well correct?

Where and what part of the wtc fell outward?

 

[xxCivicxx]

It was very obvious that the towers fell on their own and that hijackers took over the planes. I've watched the videos over and over from various angles and multiple angles and listened to witness accounts. You can see the point where the building collapsed and the weight of the building above the multi floor crash points also contributed. You're talking 50+ stories. There there were the accounts of jet fuel coming down elevator shafts and the weight of the impact alone. The question of if bush new was answered. They new, but did nothing. Did they do nothing because they didn't connect the dots do to hubris? Or did they let it fly to see what would happen and how they could benefit? I don't think anyone would let the pentagon be on the target list nor the most import point of wealth for the people who run America. I do think that Bush took advantage of the ensuing war with Afghanistan to go into Iraq. He was shown to be incompetent on many fronts not related to 911 or the Wars. Just look at the state of the economy. Osama was a very capable planner and the towers were attackers only years before by his people. Honestly, it was a brilliant plan pulled off with the most basic resources (a kitchen knife, and a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator).

Did you watch those videos I posted?

 

[BedStuy]

 

[Trillfate]

Shut the fuck up about the patriot act.

We are disputing the towers, explosives and free fall speed. You've yet to prove there were explosives or even evidence of them. Not one witness in the clean up seen any type of evidence linked to explosives. Not one witness seen thermite. Not one witness heard explosions. Not one witness seen flashes.

Eh?! Fool there were Several witnesses that said they heard explosions and saw flashes. And thermite was found at ground zero..

This is documented fact.

What kinda future-crack are u smoking???

 

[Trillfate]

@vibe @s2j would 1 of u physicists care to explain this?

 

[riddlerap]

Watch the videos. And you're incorrect. Many witnesses at ground zero stated that after the FIRST explosion above them, they heard following explosions below them

many people say a lot of shit happened while they experience traumatic things that end up being inaccurate.

 

[riddlerap]

also, you dont think anything in a HUGE skyscraper building could be explosive and explode upon an insane amount of heat/weight/pressure? all the electrical equipment and heating/cooling mechanisms to keep the building running day-to-day..water heaters, batteries, power supply units, breaker boxes, etc.

 

[S2J]

Did you watch any of the videos that I posted or are you too scared to?

Most of you believe what you do based on 5 minute YouTube videos.

Fuck your video nigga. Theres a 'video' for why Sandy Hook, Chris Dorner, and ISIS aint real foh

Oh but b4 u get the wrong idea im a GROWN ASS MAN, 9/11 was 14 years ago ive seen evry video out there and seen them debunked, engaged in and crushed thisbdebate irl and online numerous times, ur not special

Fyi When your basis for a belief is a QUESTION, not an answer, you're full of shit. (Ie 'Oh , so so, explain how___' ). No mfer YOU explain the shit to me, burden of proof is on YOU

 

[HundredEyes]

14 years ago I was allmost 14 years old lol...no idea how the new gen thinks about what happened or what they get taught in schools(worldwide). Whole generation grew up with different rights, perception of privacy etc since 9-11.

funny that we had wikileaks exposing government officials worldwide, america false flaggin afganistan n iraq, us government officials directly sponsoring al qaeda and shit, everyone was like : 'yeah we knew all that'. Nobody gave a fuck and nobody went to jail, except for Assange, bro is still hiding out in the embassy of Equador in London man...

now its 2015 and people still act like the collapse of wtc7 wasnt some weird shit. Just like how Benazir Bhutto and Bin Laden got handled..

yeah its possible that wtc7 collapsed the way it did due to fire...but the chances of that shit occuring was like one in a trillion.

so its been proven that the us government was directly involved with sponsoring al qaeda(pre and post 9-11), went in into iraq and afganistan under false pretences. Literally bombed the shit outta said countries and cats in here actin like the wtc7 collapse isnt mad suspect.

but yeah, they wont teach any wiki links shit to 14 year olds in highschool nowadays. Not in America. Its amazing.

matter a fact, yall gonna be thrown in jail if youre on that wiki leaks shit in the states right? A direct result of what happened 14 years ago aint it lol.

 

[Peace_79]

I'd never give this government that much credit. I think it had more to do with incompetence than an actual conspiracy to let this happen.

This...

George Bush couldn't even speak proper English.

Close thread

 

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"bombs brought down the towers"

"thermite was found"

"witnesses support this"

*provides no evidence*

Good job, guys

 

[blackamerica]

I dont even blame yall 100%, its just sad .

Yall are like battered women. Even when u not gettin beat u flinchin left n right waitin for it. Part aint ya fault, bc govt has done some fucked up shit (stop---do you even know what u mean when u say "the government " did it?!?! Who? What part?!? All of it? Like, the WHOLE mferin thing? Llls)

But at some point, bruh, we adults, you gotta grow up and have some fukin common sense. We not kids believing grand fairy tales. 2pac is DEAD. OJ did it. 9/11 happened. Like, cmon. Ask yourself the amount of things/people in play needed for this to be a conspiracy. And NO SECRETS leak...

Wait who's the battered woman here? The one saying that there's clearly fuckery going on in the government or the the person that keeps running back to the government story on some "I'm not smart enough to comprehend what they're doing, all I know is they love me" type shit

You really need to rethink your arrogance on this topic because you're probably gonna regret it in the future

Bro, arguing this nigga is draining. Every time you corner him he changes the subject. It's starts off with "there is no evidence to support a 9/11 conspiracy". Then when you accurately put forth the evidence, the nigga says "that evidence is bullshit, I don't believe any of it". You see what he did there? Lol. There is TONS of evidence out there, from controlled demolition, Bush/Bin Laden family ties, planes not being shot down, absolutely NO WRECKAGE from the Pentagon attack, nano thermite found at ground zero, key witnesses murdered etc...

Man this nigga iz looking for a pointless debate. It makes him feel good being the nigga that disagrees with ppl, that wat he gets the attention his father never gave him as a child.