So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

[S2J]

Im a simple man.

There are certain questions that if not answred can cause suspicion, but dont rule out an event

Then there are questions that if answered and confirmed, they completely eliminate any other question related to it. It trumps the need to be "suspicious"

Meaning:

A) Questions: Why cant we see footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon? How did the body of the plane seemingly disappear? I dont think its possible for a plane to engulf the Pentgaon and not be on the lawn. ..etc

B)Point: Flight 77 has 66 recorded deaths, real people, who's families all confirm their loved ones are DEAD

Point B makes all those other questions IRRELEVANT! Why is that so hard to understand? Why are u still asking about the Pentagon? Lol

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADDRESS THIS

 

[S2J]

Another elephant in the room:

Its hard to combat 5-10 minute creative videos

People will watch those and run with it, meanwhile the facts one would need to be convinced otherwise are LONG, lengthy documents. Primarily bc the govt is not in the business of cliffnotes and digestable, microwave facts

Ie the Moussaoui trial evidence i happily led nigas to, ie the flight recordings that were released:
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/

If you call yourself educated and rail on 'sheep' and naive people, READ THIS. If you a true thinker your source wouldn't be a video with special affects and words across the screen, narrated by Dax Sheppard wannabes

 

[Trillfate]

vvv Logical Ether vvv

The buildings fell at speed of free-fall meaning that each floor fell completely unobstructed by anything below it... We can talk about jet fuel all day but all three buildings fell at free-fall which can only mean that the subsequent level below was already falling before the floor above it could fall onto it i.e. it had been cleared. In the case of sandwiching (the phenomenon that supposedly justifies the collapses), the failing floor must hit the one beneath it, dislodge it, then hit the next, dislodge it (and so on): a process which slows the rate of falling. Buildings in controlled demolitions fall in the same manner as those that did during 9/11, NOT buildings that suffer from structural failure. The buildings should have also leaned if the collapses were due to heat, as the buildings' metal structures would distort with the heat. This would undoubtedly prohibit absolutely vertical collapses of the buildings as this would have made the buildings top-heavy, pulling to whichever side the greater damage would have existed (I'd assume the location of impact). Physics and mathematics don't lie. Humans do. The buildings were demolished. This is without even mentioning the fact that thermite jet fuel simply cannot cut base supports in a straight line, nor questioning the hilariously incredible finding of intact and full-proof evidence within moments of the disaster.  There are many, many experts in their chosen fields who see the event as an inside job, highly distinguished physicists, engineers, avionics, professors, high ranking military personal, plus many more. Are they also ‘retarded’? (Not to mention the opinion of the supposed perpetrator himself, Osama Bin Laden, who surely should have claimed immediate responsibility after he had pulled off the most spectacular and successful terrorist attack in human history?) 2+2 does not equal 5; at least not for me. It's a disgusting shame that so many innocent people died as a result of this event, but it is more insulting to them, in my opinion, to believe the lies that we are fed and keep their deaths in vain.

 

[VIBE]

Bruh, all my argument is within the first couple of pages. This thread is a year old. What more am I supposed to give?

Everyone here has claimed, on suspicion only, that it's an inside job WITH NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIMS!

Not one bomb

Not one missile

Not one explanation as to what the debris is on the Pentagon lawn

Not one explanation as to where the planes went

Nope, NOTHING.

I've provided pictures and video. I've suggested a documentary that gives a good explanation as to why the 3 trade centers fell. (9/11: The Towers and The Pentagon)

But it's ignored.

Any evidence here is nothing but "this group did this" "this man did that" "they have ties" "omg did you see that plume" "hey they were doing construction"

SPECULATION!

Nah, FUCK YOU. Your claims are highly ridiculous, therefore, require YOU to PROVIDE the EVIDENCE. Which you can't because it doesn't exist, doesn't exist because it didn't happen like that!

I don't need to provide anything further. Want it, head back to the first pages.

 

[VIBE]

@Vibe have you ever seen the video of cnn report on the Pentagon that day

Reporter said the floors were still intact and didn't collapse until 45 mins later

Yes.

Why?

It was on fire for 7 hours.

Firemen said it was going to collapse and moved everyone back. It collapsed 2 hours later. They could hear the structure weakening; groaning, moaning, creaking, breaking glass etc

Word got around it was going to collapse. BBC jumped the gun.

But nah, BBC is in on it, as well as the firemen.

 

[VIBE]

I keep saying I'm done then my dumbass keeps coming back. smh

 

[blackamerica]

I keep saying I'm done then my dumbass keeps coming back. smh

You should stay done. You can't claim victory while ducking & dodging ppl post you don't know how to respond too smh

At the end of the day, you have a responsibility too provide irrefutable evidence that proves 100% there isn't a conspiracy. Go back & hide now

 

[Ol Jay's]

@Vibe have you ever seen the video of cnn report on the Pentagon that day

Reporter said the floors were still intact and didn't collapse until 45 mins later

Yes.

Why?

It was on fire for 7 hours.

Firemen said it was going to collapse and moved everyone back. It collapsed 2 hours later. They could hear the structure weakening; groaning, moaning, creaking, breaking glass etc

Word got around it was going to collapse. BBC jumped the gun.

But nah, BBC is in on it, as well as the firemen.

bro so do you believe the plane never went through the walls and disintegrated on contact

 

[Koltrain]

Why we never saw bin laden body? They gave him a respectable burial according to his religion supposedly but we talkin about a man who supposed to be responsible for all this shit.

Exactly. They showed Saddam get hanged on tv. They showed Ghadaffi getting killed.....but the #1 enemy of the state, the #1 most wanted mf in the world was given a respectable burial at sea? And aint NO pictures or videos of it??? Bullshit, i don't buy it..

 

[Kwan Dai]

Our country has a long history of sacrificing American lives for various personal, financial and political reasons. I don't see this moment in History as anything other then America following it's script.

 

[BedStuy]

vvv Logical Ether vvv

The buildings fell at speed of free-fall meaning that each floor fell completely unobstructed by anything below it... We can talk about jet fuel all day but all three buildings fell at free-fall which can only mean that the subsequent level below was already falling before the floor above it could fall onto it i.e. it had been cleared. In the case of sandwiching (the phenomenon that supposedly justifies the collapses), the failing floor must hit the one beneath it, dislodge it, then hit the next, dislodge it (and so on): a process which slows the rate of falling. Buildings in controlled demolitions fall in the same manner as those that did during 9/11, NOT buildings that suffer from structural failure. The buildings should have also leaned if the collapses were due to heat, as the buildings' metal structures would distort with the heat. This would undoubtedly prohibit absolutely vertical collapses of the buildings as this would have made the buildings top-heavy, pulling to whichever side the greater damage would have existed (I'd assume the location of impact). Physics and mathematics don't lie. Humans do. The buildings were demolished. This is without even mentioning the fact that thermite jet fuel simply cannot cut base supports in a straight line, nor questioning the hilariously incredible finding of intact and full-proof evidence within moments of the disaster.  There are many, many experts in their chosen fields who see the event as an inside job, highly distinguished physicists, engineers, avionics, professors, high ranking military personal, plus many more. Are they also ‘retarded’? (Not to mention the opinion of the supposed perpetrator himself, Osama Bin Laden, who surely should have claimed immediate responsibility after he had pulled off the most spectacular and successful terrorist attack in human history?) 2+2 does not equal 5; at least not for me. It's a disgusting shame that so many innocent people died as a result of this event, but it is more insulting to them, in my opinion, to believe the lies that we are fed and keep their deaths in vain.

Word, that's what confuses me. If a steel building is collapsing from heat it would start to lean and wobble back and forth first. Steel beams don't automatically just snap and break from heat. WTC 7 fell within 7 seconds. The only logical educated guess is controlled demolition.

 

[SELASI_i]

Why we never saw bin laden body? They gave him a respectable burial according to his religion supposedly but we talkin about a man who supposed to be responsible for all this shit.

Exactly. They showed Saddam get hanged on tv. They showed Ghadaffi getting killed.....but the #1 enemy of the state, the #1 most wanted mf in the world was given a respectable burial at sea? And aint NO pictures or videos of it??? Bullshit, i don't buy it..

that entire story was on the level of a hollywood blockbuster, probably the biggest ever. this is the first time that the media and communication technology has been on this level throughout history and every medium of it was used to promote and propagate this. Bin Laden just like Hitler was a creation, (not saying the men did not exist)

but their image was created, I dont doubt that they themselves played a hand in the fabrications either, but this happen to maintain and enforce more control, control over your mind by you believing this bullshit, control over your "freedoms" by the laws enforced to prevent "terrorists" and control over a portion of the world per natural resources as well. checkmate.

 

[Koltrain]

vvv Logical Ether vvv

The buildings fell at speed of free-fall meaning that each floor fell completely unobstructed by anything below it... We can talk about jet fuel all day but all three buildings fell at free-fall which can only mean that the subsequent level below was already falling before the floor above it could fall onto it i.e. it had been cleared. In the case of sandwiching (the phenomenon that supposedly justifies the collapses), the failing floor must hit the one beneath it, dislodge it, then hit the next, dislodge it (and so on): a process which slows the rate of falling. Buildings in controlled demolitions fall in the same manner as those that did during 9/11, NOT buildings that suffer from structural failure. The buildings should have also leaned if the collapses were due to heat, as the buildings' metal structures would distort with the heat. This would undoubtedly prohibit absolutely vertical collapses of the buildings as this would have made the buildings top-heavy, pulling to whichever side the greater damage would have existed (I'd assume the location of impact). Physics and mathematics don't lie. Humans do. The buildings were demolished. This is without even mentioning the fact that thermite jet fuel simply cannot cut base supports in a straight line, nor questioning the hilariously incredible finding of intact and full-proof evidence within moments of the disaster.  There are many, many experts in their chosen fields who see the event as an inside job, highly distinguished physicists, engineers, avionics, professors, high ranking military personal, plus many more. Are they also ‘retarded’? (Not to mention the opinion of the supposed perpetrator himself, Osama Bin Laden, who surely should have claimed immediate responsibility after he had pulled off the most spectacular and successful terrorist attack in human history?) 2+2 does not equal 5; at least not for me. It's a disgusting shame that so many innocent people died as a result of this event, but it is more insulting to them, in my opinion, to believe the lies that we are fed and keep their deaths in vain.

Word, that's what confuses me. If a steel building is collapsing from heat it would start to lean and wobble back and forth first. Steel beams don't automatically just snap and break from heat. WTC 7 fell within 7 seconds. The only logical educated guess is controlled demolition.

Right. For the building to collapse like it did, then the support beams at the bottom would all have to blow.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Why we never saw bin laden body? They gave him a respectable burial according to his religion supposedly but we talkin about a man who supposed to be responsible for all this shit.

Exactly. They showed Saddam get hanged on tv. They showed Ghadaffi getting killed.....but the #1 enemy of the state, the #1 most wanted mf in the world was given a respectable burial at sea? And aint NO pictures or videos of it??? Bullshit, i don't buy it..

When you say they, you fail to mention that both men were killed by their own people. There is also the fact that Pakistan was highly upset over the incursion to get him, and they jailed the doctor that aided in his capture.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/osam...-in-pakistan-prison-as-appeal-lingers-1216171

 

[S2J]

Very weird how all 3 buildings fell.

But then i balance that with, how in the ENTIRE fuk would they pull of a controlled demolition?

Also, follow me on this. For the most part, we've never seen a plane purposely fly into a skyscraper, yet you're comfortable saying what that SHOULD look like. Ok

On the flip, most of us HAVE seen controlled demolitions on tv or YouTube whatever. It comes with specific sounds, the flashes of the igntion, etc. It does not happen quietly.

Soooooo if the towers falling does not look like it "should" and that makes you skeptical. ...Shouldn't the towers going down in a QUIET low key controlled demolition on live tv cause more suspicion? Isnt that JUST as and actually MORE far fetched? ??

@vibe Am i goin crazy or does that not make perfect sense? Like is it me? Lls

 

[Kwan Dai]

Very weird how all 3 buildings fell.

But then i balance that with, how in the ENTIRE fuk would they pull of a controlled demolition?

Also, follow me on this. For the most part, we've never seen a plane purposely fly into a skyscraper, yet you're comfortable saying what that SHOULD look like. Ok

On the flip, most of us HAVE seen controlled demolitions on tv or YouTube whatever. It comes with specific sounds, the flashes of the igntion, etc. It does not happen quietly.

Soooooo if the towers falling does not look like it "should" and that makes you skeptical. ...Shouldn't the towers going down in a QUIET low key controlled demolition on live tv cause more suspicion? Isnt that JUST as and actually MORE far fetched? ??

@vibe Am i goin crazy or does that not make perfect sense? Like is it me? Lls

Family controlled demo or not that building didn't fall quietly.

I am no expert here but every floor didn't need to be wired for explosives for it collapse the way it did. Considering the building was over 100 stories perhaps it's difficult to hear detonations past a certain height.

 

[Koltrain]

Very weird how all 3 buildings fell.

But then i balance that with, how in the ENTIRE fuk would they pull of a controlled demolition?

Also, follow me on this. For the most part, we've never seen a plane purposely fly into a skyscraper, yet you're comfortable saying what that SHOULD look like. Ok

On the flip, most of us HAVE seen controlled demolitions on tv or YouTube whatever. It comes with specific sounds, the flashes of the igntion, etc. It does not happen quietly.

Soooooo if the towers falling does not look like it "should" and that makes you skeptical. ...Shouldn't the towers going down in a QUIET low key controlled demolition on live tv cause more suspicion? Isnt that JUST as and actually MORE far fetched? ??

@vibe Am i goin crazy or does that not make perfect sense? Like is it me? Lls

The towers would be closed off weeks before 9/11 to treat for asbestos.

So you saying a controlled demolition is more far fetched than amateur pilots flying big ass commercial planes into giant buildings and hitting both of them perfectly?

 

[BedStuy]

The thing is witnesses heard explosives.

 

[S2J]

The thing is witnesses heard explosives.

*Explosions. There's a difference.

And I have no problem with that part causing doubt. There's PLENTY of doubt

But when it comes to the dealbreakers and irrefutable shit, its not there.

Doesnt add up. Too biased

For example, let yall tell it i shouldn't believe these planes could do that amount of damage, but i SHOULD believe an amount of explosive to blow the building was also small enough to be covertly transported INTO he building in midtown Manhattan AND easily concealed once in the building lol

Im not asking for folk to eliminate doubt, all im asking for is consistency. Call it both ways! If what I or the govt is saying is SO BIZARRE, dont in the same breath act like the misjointed, unconneced, "It took 20 people to pull this off" shit yall sayin ain't

 

[VIBE]

@Vibe have you ever seen the video of cnn report on the Pentagon that day

Reporter said the floors were still intact and didn't collapse until 45 mins later

Yes.

Why?

It was on fire for 7 hours.

Firemen said it was going to collapse and moved everyone back. It collapsed 2 hours later. They could hear the structure weakening; groaning, moaning, creaking, breaking glass etc

Word got around it was going to collapse. BBC jumped the gun.

But nah, BBC is in on it, as well as the firemen.

bro so do you believe the plane never went through the walls and disintegrated on contact

Through the towers, yes. Not desinagrate on contact, though. The plane some what remained in the buildings, which is the "molten" stuff you see dripping from the towers.