exactly...the only difference in reporting before the pay off and after is that it will report as "settled" or paid off but will remain as a negative item. furthermore, if you settled for example a $1k debt for $200, yeah that collection agency or original creditor may show that you have paid off $200, but unless it's in writing that they will not, they can in turn sell the remaining $800 to another collection agency. this will not only allow them to have another collection agency reporting to your bureau, but if they can validate the original debt (usually unlikely) they can collect on the remaining $800 legally. so agreeing to settle may have caused 3 more problems: restarting your clock on the first item, creating a new item for the unpaid portion of the settlement, and allowing for a new round of collections. all of which could be avoided if you have it in writing to have it removed altogether and that the remaining portion cannot be sold to another collection agency. most ppl assume that if they pay it off they are good, when in fact depending on the amount and age of the item that may not necessarily be true. once the debt is years old, it being reported as paid, settled, or written off really all have the same basic effect. age is one of the main factors in credit scores. UNLESS you are trying to pick up a mortgage. if so, every negative item on your reports will have to be removed either by dispute or paid off before they will finance you.