So it's safe to say now that LIL WAYNE >>> JAY-Z

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StAndrewsboy1555;3225758 said:
A lot of people who argue that Wayne is better than Jay or Wayne is a Legend is under 21 years old and i never argue with kids.. Ima grown man and I BEEN LISTENING to hip hop since 88..

!st off Wayne is not a LEGEND for the simple Fact he has no CLASSIC ALBUMS.. The only Classic album on his Resume was the hoyboys second album Guerella Warefare.. To put wayne and jay in the same sentence is VERY DISRESPECTFUL

Jay has very accomplished .. Wayne is still under birdman .. Baby eats off wayne.. He may have great punchlines and creative wit his lyrics BUT WAYNE CAN'T MAKE A CLASSIC ALBUM TO SAVE HIS LIFE.. I prefer wayne when he was wit the hotboy..

HOW CAN U BE A BLOOD WIT FEMALE JEANS ON AND A RAG IN YO RIGHT POCKET.. He really is a clown and a joke.. Only ones that love and respect wayne is CHILDREN UNDER 21.. NO grown man in there right mind wud ever say Wayne is better than Jay or biggie or pac..

WAYNE AIN'T NEVER BEEN IN THE STREETS CUZ HE BEEN IN THE PUBLIC EYE SINCE HE WAS 12..

Will Smith has no Classic Albums and he's a legend in Hip Hop...right or wrong?

Get off that high horse shit about Lil Wayne not being on the same planet as Jay-Z, c'mon son the comparison between the two is made ALL THE TIME and for the reason of them being two of the greats of our time..Yes, Lil Wayne is one of the greats, some rather listen to him over a lot of others including Jay-z who can come off boring sometimes...get the fuck over it, it is what it is (over 22 yr old speaking this)

From whats known and not what's said, Wayne does kno about that street life...but so does everyone else that raps and don't actually live word for word of what they rap about..does that really fuckin matter? what happen to storytellin? or making relative music as to what u seen or know about??...oh..yea..THATS EXACTLY WHAT MOST ARE DOING!!! lol smh

As far as classic albums....thats shit is a bunch of bullshit now.. nobody will ever make a "classic" album anymore becuz the criteria of one has turned so hypocritical its ridiculous..everyone's opinion of what a "classic" album is is totally different now and the listeners ears have become way more diverse..so has the music thats being put out.. What somebody classifies as a classic now may not be a classic to others...but it don't mean its not a classic.. You can put the Classic tag on C2 easily..maybe even C1... some say C3 based on impact and C4 could be close to follow... but some of the albums that be listed in yall "classic" albums lists are bogus as fuck.. but its all opinion tho, so it is what it is i guess
 
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PLASTIC RULES;3225638 said:
my bad i dont look up pics of other men to know exactly what niggas is modeling

lol you dont have to look it up to see that shit. turn on mtv. hell you dont even have to do that, go in any wayne thread and you'll see either bcotton and siqnih bustin nuts over him or someone callin him gay cause they look like womens pants
 
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cuttadc13;3227069 said:
Will Smith has no Classic Albums and he's a legend in Hip Hop...right or wrong?

Get off that high horse shit about Lil Wayne not being on the same planet as Jay-Z, c'mon son the comparison between the two is made ALL THE TIME and for the reason of them being two of the greats of our time..Yes, Lil Wayne is one of the greats, some rather listen to him over a lot of others including Jay-z who can come off boring sometimes...get the fuck over it, it is what it is (over 22 yr old speaking this)

From whats known and not what's said, Wayne does kno about that street life...but so does everyone else that raps and don't actually live word for word of what they rap about..does that really fuckin matter? what happen to storytellin? or making relative music as to what u seen or know about??...oh..yea..THATS EXACTLY WHAT MOST ARE DOING!!! lol smh

As far as classic albums....thats shit is a bunch of bullshit now.. nobody will ever make a "classic" album anymore becuz the criteria of one has turned so hypocritical its ridiculous..everyone's opinion of what a "classic" album is is totally different now and the listeners ears have become way more diverse..so has the music thats being put out.. What somebody classifies as a classic now may not be a classic to others...but it don't mean its not a classic.. You can put the Classic tag on C2 easily..maybe even C1... some say C3 based on impact and C4 could be close to follow... but some of the albums that be listed in yall "classic" albums lists are bogus as fuck.. but its all opinion tho, so it is what it is i guess

Big Willie Style is a classic..

And your point about no one makin' classics any more...Kanye made at least 2/3
 
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CeLLaR-DooR;3227630 said:
Big Willie Style is a classic..

And your point about no one makin' classics any more...Kanye made at least 2/3

If Big Willie Style is a Classic...Carter 3 is a Classic

What 2 or 3 albums Kanye had that were classics??
 
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Jay-z ain't in his prime no more in fact you can basically say hes dropped just as many dud albums as Wayne since he did the Black Album. Wayne at least tries to stay consistent but with Jay its always the same formula of him getting some hot R&B singer to sing his hooks so his albums can stay relevant.

Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z overall? No
Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z now? undoubtedly yes
 
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Id like a plate mail that doesnt look like a corset or something. I dont know if the way they are now is like they were in real life, but the upper piece should IMO overlap the lower piece. Think about the chafing, for starters, that the ones that there are now have.
 
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The reason why Wayne cant be better then Jay is because his music has no substance. He doesnt say anything in his music. He's a glorified punchline rapper with a couple good mixtape songs. He basically just rhymes to rhyme not to actually say anything. His wit appeals to simple minds.

And albums there is no comparison. Jay kills him

And if we go off the 2 songs they released subliminally going at each other. Jays verse on T.I's record (watch what you say to me) was way better then Waynes verse on (its Good)
 
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thefabmd2dc;3227660 said:
Jay-z ain't in his prime no more in fact you can basically say hes dropped just as many dud albums as Wayne since he did the Black Album. Wayne at least tries to stay consistent but with Jay its always the same formula of him getting some hot R&B singer to sing his hooks so his albums can stay relevant.

Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z overall? No

Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z now? undoubtedly yes

No.....what in the hell do yall dudes be listening to....I'd still say hands down that Jay is the better lyricist....
 
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thefabmd2dc;3227660 said:
Jay-z ain't in his prime no more in fact you can basically say hes dropped just as many dud albums as Wayne since he did the Black Album. Wayne at least tries to stay consistent but with Jay its always the same formula of him getting some hot R&B singer to sing his hooks so his albums can stay relevant.

Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z overall? No

Is Wayne a better lyricist then Jay-z now? undoubtedly yes

really??

please sit back down and never contribute again.....
 
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Real talk, when the best song on your album doesnt even feature you, please dead all that better than somebody bullshit. Nigga got a big ass thread full of Lil B like unquotables from one album. Niggas really letting crackas gas them into believing a rapper who couldnt deliver two consecutive coherent verses, fuck albums, verses is hip hops elite. Crackas and their minions always gotta fuck somethin up.
 
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NoHateNoFear;3226292 said:
nigga aint nobody tryna hear dat old shit... why u think hov switch flows... cuz dat shit was wack nigga... wayne fast flow greater than hov fast flow... but hov better overall

U Lost for this dawg...Jigga What was on Hard Knock Life which was 98...its hypocritical to say that when that wuz after both Pac and Big death...lol..niggas be reeeeeeeeeeeeaching...
 
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TheApocalypse;3225593 said:
I agree with this. Jay-Z doesn't have that core, youth-lead, hip-hop audience anymore. Sad to say but his time has passed. He only remains as big as he is now because of his status in history of the game. The youth doesn't care how good a rapper he is or ever was. His type of music isn't the preferred style anymore. That doesn't mean he isn't as good an artist as a Wayne or Jeezy, it's just that he can only stretch so far out of his own era. It's over. He's a legend but the crowd doesn't want him anymore.

wait, wait, wait. are we talkin about the guy who has 11 platinum number one albums with the last one coming out when? like 2 years ago? not to mention watch the throne.

I honestly have no idea what the fuck you talkin about sir.

yeah, the crowd doesnt want him anymore? you serious? this is from a hip-hop only festival, btw.

[video=youtube;EuahPWJhU-E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuahPWJhU-E[/video]
 
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biggar;3227863 said:
The reason why Wayne cant be better then Jay is because his music has no substance. He doesnt say anything in his music. He's a glorified punchline rapper with a couple good mixtape songs. He basically just rhymes to rhyme not to actually say anything. His wit appeals to simple minds.

And albums there is no comparison. Jay kills him

And if we go off the 2 songs they released subliminally going at each other. Jays verse on T.I's record (watch what you say to me) was way better then Waynes verse on (its Good)

agree with the bolded...the blueprint series alone has more replay value than waynes entire catalouge. How many wayne albums do niggas play straight through. The story of waynes career is finding a few needles in a haystack of shit. He is shooting like 30% from the field as far as having good songs. Any album from tha carter series has some good tracks hidden in with some scrub tracks and the rebirth and I am not a human being are garbage and forgetable.
 
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U people saying Wayne is a better rhymer than Jigga are bugging out.. This nigga Wayne been runnng outta them dry ass metaphors since Carter 3 drop... People have the nerve to say KC is a wack album, if that's the case Carter 3 was fucking terrible if you ask me

Kingdom Come>>>>>>>>>> Carter 3 by miles!
 
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PLASTIC RULES;3225663 said:
See Wayne can pull shit like that off cuz he got real swag, if a nigga like Jay tried that someone would knocc him out off gp.

Why is 1/2 of The Throne a known flaming diva named Kanye West?

And that's 'spose to be Jay's right hand man?

Why would Jigga want to pull off some shit like this? Why are you doing double duty not only as a Wayne sychophant, but also as a Wayne apologist who trying to distract from what's becoming his seemingly more blantant bisexuality, not even Andre 3000, who's known for wearing some outlandish shit would even think to put on some tight ass bitch leopard print leggings. Andre would also fire the stylist who suggested it.

Also would you wear those bitch ass leggings in your neighborhood?
 
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