so is it safe to say Goku/Vegeta on supersaiyan 4 would get there ass whooped by Thanos?

[jaxn]

Thanos was fighting a guy who can destroy planets with just one punch and was tanking them shits like they was little flies. Goku nor Vegeta have the physical strength to bust planets with their fists. Highest DBZ/GT goes is planet Buster, and Planet Buster is nothing to Thanos.

These guys were capable of destroying planets before going super saiyan

 

[jaxn]

*ahem*

then why was Goku sweatin when frieze deathballed namek?

Goku: You'll kill us both

Frieza: Nah nigga I can breath in space, yo monkey ass can't

Goku: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

I;m not postin the clip because we all know what the fuck Im talkin about.

As far as Vegeta, Nappa and other Saiyans in space. I chalk that up to more inconsistency on the writing behalf.

In the world on major inconsistencies I'm going to go with the latest portrayal which is Frieza saga.

Or are we gonna say Frieza was trollin GOku?

yes we can say that Frieza was trollin him..Frieza had no clue at the power Goku held at that time. His comments are meaningless

 

[jaxn]

*ahem*

then why was Goku sweatin when frieze deathballed namek?

Goku: You'll kill us both

Frieza: Nah nigga I can breath in space, yo monkey ass can't

Goku: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

I;m not postin the clip because we all know what the fuck Im talkin about.

As far as Vegeta, Nappa and other Saiyans in space. I chalk that up to more inconsistency on the writing behalf.

In the world on major inconsistencies I'm going to go with the latest portrayal which is Frieza saga.

Or are we gonna say Frieza was trollin GOku?

its more like Frieza had no clue about the power Goku held at that time. There have been a few instances showing saiyans breathing in space. Bardock and several saiyans facing off against Freiza comes to mind. There are a few things Goku didn't know he was capable of at first but he eventually learned over time..like the ability to fly

 

[DarkRaiden]

Thanos was fighting a guy who can destroy planets with just one punch and was tanking them shits like they was little flies. Goku nor Vegeta have the physical strength to bust planets with their fists. Highest DBZ/GT goes is planet Buster, and Planet Buster is nothing to Thanos.

These guys were capable of destroying planets before going super saiyan

Not physically. Physically, Goku caps at 40 tons base. That's not even Thing level.

And Broly didn't destroy a galaxy. He went planet to planet and eventually left it ravaged. The entire Broly movie takes place in said Galaxy that is supposed to be destroyed. The highest anyone in DBZ got was planet busting, no matter how early they got there, their powers didn't scale well.

Vegeta at 18,000 claims to be planet buster

Frieza at 120,000,000 still just a planet buster via core busting

Cell at unknown PL, but around SSJ2, claims Solar System busting but only proves planet busting

Kid Buu at much higher, still just a planet buster.

Plus no one ever exhibits light speed movement or reactions, which Thanos has by being able to beat Silver Surfer to death aka tagging a being far above light speed.

Also Saiyans can't breath in space cause it was stated they couldn't and never proven otherwise.

 

[SocialAssassinRati]

Niggaz really out chea tryna tell me that the 2 niggaz in lace front wigs can beat a nigga that destroyed all of existence? *insert shaq face pic*

 

[Amotekun]

To be fair he destroyed the universe with augmented powers....

Still though, thanos is that nigga. Nigga is a damn Titan, an Eternal. he's an augmented Eternal at that. A mutant variant with superior strength, intelligence and wielding power cosmic. He's not some random space nigga.

 

[jaxn]

Thanos was fighting a guy who can destroy planets with just one punch and was tanking them shits like they was little flies. Goku nor Vegeta have the physical strength to bust planets with their fists. Highest DBZ/GT goes is planet Buster, and Planet Buster is nothing to Thanos.

These guys were capable of destroying planets before going super saiyan

Not physically. Physically, Goku caps at 40 tons base. That's not even Thing level.

so your logic is that he caps off at 40 tons base even though he was effortlessly exercising with 40 tons of weight on him??? and that wasn't his strongest incarnation.

And Broly didn't destroy a galaxy. He went planet to planet and eventually left it ravaged. The entire Broly movie takes place in said Galaxy that is supposed to be destroyed. The highest anyone in DBZ got was planet busting, no matter how early they got there, their powers didn't scale well.

what about Buu?

Vegeta at 18,000 claims to be planet buster

Frieza at 120,000,000 still just a planet buster via core busting

Cell at unknown PL, but around SSJ2, claims Solar System busting but only proves planet busting

Kid Buu at much higher, still just a planet buster.

Vegeta and others at that low level were planet busters though..so what does that say about them as their power increased? here's were the logic is faulty, at what point in the show did they fail to destroy something other than a planet? What purpose does it serve to destroy a galaxy or universe and still continue on with the show? So if Cell just came in a destroyed ever planet in the galaxy, then what? where does the story go?

Plus no one ever exhibits light speed movement or reactions, which Thanos has by being able to beat Silver Surfer to death aka tagging a being far above light speed.

first off, Thanos doesn't have anything close to that speed. Secondly, there was never a specific time frame given for their fights so there's no way you can come to that conclusion..what we do know that these guys were fighting using martial arts at such speeds that other super powered beings were unable to see them..as powerful as Trunks and Vegeta were in there ascended saiyan forms, they were unable to see Goku and Cell fight..

Also Saiyans can't breath in space cause it was stated they couldn't and never proven otherwise.

except for the times when saiyans were shown in space right?

 

[PK_TK_187]

Thanos>>>>>

Dude would kill anyone of them with a single punch or move

 

[DarkRaiden]

Goku at base was struggling with 40 tons, SSJ was when he did it easily. At most that's a 50x increase, SSJ2 is 2, and SSJ3 is 4x. But as we know, strength isn't linear with PL.

The point is that Vegeta at 18,000 is a planet buster, as is Buu. Buu wanted to destroy everything as did Cell. Neither did and only destroyed a planet. Thus until proven otherwise they are planet busters at best.

Thanos has hit Silver Surfer, Silver Surfer moves at light speed +, thus Thanos's reflexes are at least light speed timing.

Oh and Goku describes IT as light speed and everyone in DBZ is amazed at it and say it's the fastest technique, this implies they are not light speed. Also they have to prove light speed, and until then are slower than it.

 

[jaxn]

Goku at base was struggling with 40 tons, SSJ was when he did it easily.

so he exercises with 40 tons easily as you say, but then you go on to say he caps off at 40 tons????

At most that's a 50x increase, SSJ2 is 2, and SSJ3 is 4x. But as we know, strength isn't linear with PL.

actually we don't know that since it was never specified by AT. What we do know is that they get stronger with each power up

The point is that Vegeta at 18,000 is a planet buster, as is Buu. Buu wanted to destroy everything as did Cell. Neither did and only destroyed a planet. Thus until proven otherwise they are planet busters at best.

Buu was destroying galaxies when he fist came into being. so i'd say its pretty much proven. Buu was defeated before he could destroy everything and Cell never wanted to do that in the first place. He just wanted a good fight.

Thanos has hit Silver Surfer, Silver Surfer moves at light speed +, thus Thanos's reflexes are at least light speed timing.

the hell kind of logic is that? so because he was able to hit Surfer that mean he has ftl reflexes? I guess Thing has ftl reflexes too. Spiderman as well, hell, BP, the Hulk and Thor do to. So does the Rhino, since they were all able to hit the surfer.

Oh and Goku describes IT as light speed and everyone in DBZ is amazed at it and say it's the fastest technique, this implies they are not light speed. Also they have to prove light speed, and until then are slower than it.

no, Goku described it as instant transmission, as in teleportation...that is all. It has nothing to do with speed, unless you think Goku is flying/running to different planets. I guess he's so fast he can run/fly to Kami's world too

 

[SocialAssassinRati]

To be fair he destroyed the universe with augmented powers....

Still though, thanos is that nigga. Nigga is a damn Titan, an Eternal. he's an augmented Eternal at that. A mutant variant with superior strength, intelligence and wielding power cosmic. He's not some random space nigga.

I know but still niggaz need to understand the type of nigga Thanos is...he doesnt give a FUCK and has the ability to show you how much of a fuck he doesnt give. Any nigga that destroys all of existence when he himself is part of existence......ijs

 

[DarkRaiden]

Goku at base was struggling with 40 tons, SSJ was when he did it easily.

so he exercises with 40 tons easily as you say, but then you go on to say he caps off at 40 tons????

At most that's a 50x increase, SSJ2 is 2, and SSJ3 is 4x. But as we know, strength isn't linear with PL.

actually we don't know that since it was never specified by AT. What we do know is that they get stronger with each power up

The point is that Vegeta at 18,000 is a planet buster, as is Buu. Buu wanted to destroy everything as did Cell. Neither did and only destroyed a planet. Thus until proven otherwise they are planet busters at best.

Buu was destroying galaxies when he fist came into being. so i'd say its pretty much proven. Buu was defeated before he could destroy everything and Cell never wanted to do that in the first place. He just wanted a good fight.

Thanos has hit Silver Surfer, Silver Surfer moves at light speed +, thus Thanos's reflexes are at least light speed timing.

the hell kind of logic is that? so because he was able to hit Surfer that mean he has ftl reflexes? I guess Thing has ftl reflexes too. Spiderman as well, hell, BP, the Hulk and Thor do to. So does the Rhino, since they were all able to hit the surfer.

Oh and Goku describes IT as light speed and everyone in DBZ is amazed at it and say it's the fastest technique, this implies they are not light speed. Also they have to prove light speed, and until then are slower than it.

no, Goku described it as instant transmission, as in teleportation...that is all. It has nothing to do with speed, unless you think Goku is flying/running to different planets. I guess he's so fast he can run/fly to Kami's world too

I said at base he's max 40 tons. And he is. At SSJ, he trains easily. All I said was he's max 40 tons at base, which is true. And we do know from context clues that PL does not equal strength. In Dragonball, Roshi destroyed a Moon and Goku moved a rock that was a good 5-10 tons at least, both at less than 200 PL. At over 150,000,000 PL Goku struggles with 40 tons. He should be at millions of tons, but he's not. Thus PL isn't linear with strength.

Also Buu has never destroyed a galaxy in one go. The most he is shown to destroy at once is a planet. Thus he is a planet buster and a planet buster only.

Thanos regularly tags Surfer and Surfer level beings who are light speed +. Since he does it consistently and not a one off like Spidey, Thing, etc. (Surfer was holding back btw, he wasn't holding back against Thanos).

Once again, it takes more than 1 second for DBZ people to travel and/or have a fight. Thus they aren't light speed as light speed is much faster than that and than they move. They have nothing that hints at light speed and are at best hypersonic, at worst massively supersonic.

Thanos stomps.

 

[Doctopian]

You should have capped it at SSj 3, as GT introduces all sorts of inconsistent shit that makes no sense.

In my opinion, this fight comes down to the Saiyans speed and skill vs. Thanos durability, endurance, and strength. I'm of the mind that the Saiyans' speed can make up for their questionable durability. And don't me that stuff about Thanos tagging heralds as their combat speed isn't remotely comparable to their travel speed.

 

[Sour-Cream]

Goku and Vegeta would be playing soccer with Thanos head imo.

 

[DarkRaiden]

You should have capped it at SSj 3, as GT introduces all sorts of inconsistent shit that makes no sense.

In my opinion, this fight comes down to the Saiyans speed and skill vs. Thanos durability, endurance, and strength. I'm of the mind that the Saiyans' speed can make up for their questionable durability. And don't me that stuff about Thanos tagging heralds as their combat speed isn't remotely comparable to their travel speed.

Eh, Herald's tend to fight fast from time to time, so IMO it's quantifiable. Also Goku nor Vegeta have proven combat speed that's above Thanos's. Until that's proven, they are speed blitzed and beat down. If they do prove it, they get mind raped.

 

[Amotekun]

@Doctopian why you clowning like thanos isnt an energy manipulator wielding power cosmic?

Thanos also has the ability to move fast as hell too, his speed stats are at about a 5 or 6 out of 7.

The one chance Goku and Vegita have to defeat Thanos would be to fuse into Gogeta or Vegitto if they had the rings.

Gogeta is the most powerful character in the DBZ verse especially at SSJ4 when he took on Omega Shenron.

Gogeta at SSJ3 has a PL of 2.5 Billion. 2.5 Billion relative to what though? If we take the 50 times multiplier which is

so commonly used 2.5 billion x 50 = 125 billion. If that is the constant. So IMO that represents their best shot at beating Thanos.

 

[smittysmith]

Well Thanos was able to invoke a shield that took punches from Champion, one of which he destroyed the entire planet with....ONE PUNCH. At most it's been portrayed that DBZ characters would have to use nearly all their energy in one large blast to do that kind of damage.

With the inconsistencies and the feats I gotta lean to Thanos.

 

[Focal Point]

Thanos almost beat Galactus nothing else to say.

til Thanos let him know he was just bullshytin him

 

[MC The Rapper]

Dragonball GT is not canon . So of course Thanos or whoever the fuck would win

 

[Doctopian]

@Doctopian why you clowning like thanos isnt an energy manipulator wielding power cosmic?

Thanos also has the ability to move fast as hell too, his speed stats are at about a 5 or 6 out of 7.

The one chance Goku and Vegita have to defeat Thanos would be to fuse into Gogeta or Vegitto if they had the rings.

Gogeta is the most powerful character in the DBZ verse especially at SSJ4 when he took on Omega Shenron.

Gogeta at SSJ3 has a PL of 2.5 Billion. 2.5 Billion relative to what though? If we take the 50 times multiplier which is

so commonly used 2.5 billion x 50 = 125 billion. If that is the constant. So IMO that represents their best shot at beating Thanos.

I neglected mentioning energy projection for the Saiyans and Thanos (I consider their energy projection to be roughly equal in practice), and Thanos speed stat is based on the fact that he is a teleporter. To be completely honest, I see this fight going a lot like Thanos' confrontation with the Runner during Thanos Quest. Granted the Runner is far faster than any DBZ character.