So is it fair to say, of the 3 Abrahamic faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam..

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ennnnnh. Most adherents of Judaism does not recognize that Christ will return. The premise is he never has manifested, that is why they don't accept the personage of Jesus. In Islam faith in Christ is not a principle tenet, as much as Belief in All of the messengers and prophets.

You reaching a bit, but I see your point.

There are people who see beyond dogma and have united in a sense.

J
 
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Sure, Christ, go for it. They're all bullshit, just pick and choose whatever you want from any of them, it's all make believe anyway.
 
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shootemwon;922354 said:
Sure, Christ, go for it. They're all bullshit, just pick and choose whatever you want from any of them, it's all make believe anyway.

Well that's proof enough for me.
 
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And Step;922349 said:
ennnnnh. Most adherents of Judaism does not recognize that Christ will return. The premise is he never has manifested, that is why they don't accept the personage of Jesus. In Islam faith in Christ is not a principle tenet, as much as Belief in All of the messengers and prophets.

You reaching a bit, but I see your point.

There are people who see beyond dogma and have united in a sense.

J

yeah was reaching a bit lol guess trying to just find some common ground amongst all 3 and focus on that, cause seems alot see them as all totally unlike the next.

I hadn't realized Judaism doesn't view Christ as having visited? Not once even??
 
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shootemwon;922354 said:
Sure, Christ, go for it. They're all bullshit, just pick and choose whatever you want from any of them, it's all make believe anyway.

"shootem" this that formal responses you go with huh! lol ;)
 
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shootemwon;922354 said:
Sure, Christ, go for it. They're all bullshit, just pick and choose whatever you want from any of them, it's all make believe anyway.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

From what I see, this whole society, culture, world is make-believe. Whats real. Since youre calling shenanigans- please guide all of us misguided souls.
 
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Honestly, Islam seems to be a religion created in reaction to Christianity and Judaism. A significant portion of the Qurann seems to be dedicated to explaining why the other two faiths are wrong. To be fair, the New Testament is the same way towards Judaism to some extent. So I guess you could look at it as sort of an evolution of a single faith.
 
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The Lonious Monk;927278 said:
Honestly, Islam seems to be a religion created in reaction to Christianity and Judaism. A significant portion of the Qurann seems to be dedicated to explaining why the other two faiths are wrong. To be fair, the New Testament is the same way towards Judaism to some extent. So I guess you could look at it as sort of an evolution of a single faith.

Uh no. Except for the Evolution of a single faith line. That is dead on.

Actually,the Quran verifies what was revealed before it. It does say that here are errors not in the revelation but the handling and actions of the adherants of the books.

And the Quran states that Jews, Christians who practice and follow the tenets sincerely will be rewarded.
 
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And Step;933389 said:
Uh no. Except for the Evolution of a single faith line. That is dead on.

Actually,the Quran verifies what was revealed before it. It does say that here are errors not in the revelation but the handling and actions of the adherants of the books.

And the Quran states that Jews, Christians who practice and follow the tenets sincerely will be rewarded.

You say no, but nothing you said contradicts the point I made. The fact of the matter is that the Quran is very critical of Christian and Jewish practices. Yes, it says Jews and Christians who practice and follow the tenets will be rewarded, but "following the tenets" clearly means converting to a more Muslim way of life.

That still doesn't dispute the fact that Islam seems to be a reaction to Christianity and Judaism. How else would explain the Holy Book of Islam actually taking time to address Judaism and Christianity and what is perceived to be wrong with those faiths? If it was merely about verifying what was presented before, there would be no need to mention other religions. It would only be necessary to bring up the laws and such, and comment on them. That's not what the Quran does. The Quran in several places names Christianity and Judaism or "the followers of Yeshuah" and the "the followers of Moses" and spends time criticizing the faiths. So to me, that means that Islam was built up as a reaction to those faiths.
 
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The Lonious Monk;933577 said:
You say no, but nothing you said contradicts the point I made. The fact of the matter is that the Quran is very critical of Christian and Jewish practices. Yes, it says Jews and Christians who practice and follow the tenets will be rewarded, but "following the tenets" clearly means converting to a more Muslim way of life.

That still doesn't dispute the fact that Islam seems to be a reaction to Christianity and Judaism. How else would explain the Holy Book of Islam actually taking time to address Judaism and Christianity and what is perceived to be wrong with those faiths? If it was merely about verifying what was presented before, there would be no need to mention other religions. It would only be necessary to bring up the laws and such, and comment on them. That's not what the Quran does. The Quran in several places names Christianity and Judaism or "the followers of Yeshuah" and the "the followers of Moses" and spends time criticizing the faiths. So to me, that means that Islam was built up as a reaction to those faiths.

Islam is not a "reaction" to the faith of the People of the Book, the Prophet Muhammad (saws) was sent with the the task of re-establishing the true religion of ALL the prophets sent by the One God, of course the People of the book are addressed (Jews and Christians) because the Ummah occupied their lands and had to co-exist with them but it's not as if Islam just sprang up BECAUSE of the two religions, the Qur'an is to be a guardian over the truth of all revealed scriptures like And Step said, but not just the New Testament and the Torah. It also addresses people that totally disregard God as even existing (atheists). Also you have to remember that at the time it was revealed the Arabs worshipped hundreds of different God's so those people are addressed as well, but to try to class it as a reaction to just Christianity and Judaism is a bit short sighted I think.

Salaam
 
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supaman4321;934849 said:
Islam is not a "reaction" to the faith of the People of the Book, the Prophet Muhammad (saws) was sent with the the task of re-establishing the true religion of ALL the prophets sent by the One God, of course the People of the book are addressed (Jews and Christians) because the Ummah occupied their lands and had to co-exist with them but it's not as if Islam just sprang up BECAUSE of the two religions, the Qur'an is to be a guardian over the truth of all revealed scriptures like And Step said, but not just the New Testament and the Torah. It also addresses people that totally disregard God as even existing (atheists). Also you have to remember that at the time it was revealed the Arabs worshipped hundreds of different God's so those people are addressed as well, but to try to class it as a reaction to just Christianity and Judaism is a bit short sighted I think.

Salaam

If i was thinking clearly I would have replied with this here! :)
 
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The Lonious Monk;933577 said:
You say no, but nothing you said contradicts the point I made. The fact of the matter is that the Quran is very critical of Christian and Jewish practices. Yes, it says Jews and Christians who practice and follow the tenets will be rewarded, but "following the tenets" clearly means converting to a more Muslim way of life.

Uh no again. The Quran clearly states if they follow what was revealed to them or before thee(speaking to Muslims) they will be rewarded. It also mentions Sabeans who dont really fit squarely into any category. And also, the Quran does not hold that Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus Muhammad practiced a different way of life. They all practiced to obedienceto the One Creator, albeit the message was suited for the contemporary time they were in but it was the same just a link in the chain,my man.

The Lonious Monk;933577 said:
That still doesn't dispute the fact that Islam seems to be a reaction to Christianity and Judaism. How else would explain the Holy Book of Islam actually taking time to address Judaism and Christianity and what is perceived to be wrong with those faiths? If it was merely about verifying what was presented before, there would be no need to mention other religions. It would only be necessary to bring up the laws and such, and comment on them. That's not what the Quran does. The Quran in several places names Christianity and Judaism or "the followers of Yeshuah" and the "the followers of Moses" and spends time criticizing the faiths. So to me, that means that Islam was built up as a reaction to those faiths.

Wrong Again. Judaism nor the word Christianity is addressed in the book. Find me one reference to Judaism or Christianity. Your confused. Moses did not teach Judaism. Judah was one of the tribes of Israel. The revelation came to Moses. How you going to put Judah's name on something that came from God and was given to the Children of Israel? Jesus knew nothing about Christianity. These are names European converts put on their scholarship of those revealed words. The Quran bears witness that the Torah and the Gospel, and Injil, Zabur are the truth. What it takes to task is people tampering with these revelations and creating there own(i.e Judaism and Christianity). The premise is simple if all throughout the bible God send s prophets and messengers to guide people back from going astray, why would you begrudge the Quran when the Bible does the same thing all through out?

You need to read the Bible again my man,and put away the ax your grinding with the Quran.
 
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