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DROSAIN_BOLT;6003561 said:DIDNT MIKES DEATH DATE JUST PASS.....AND ALLLLLLLLL OF A SUDDEN THEY BRING THIS UP...THEY HAD YEAARRRRSSS TO GO THROUGH HIS STUFF. ..AND THE SUDDENLY FIND GAY AND PEDO SHYT???? I AIN'T BUYIN IT
KingJamal;6003557 said:I mean come on now lol
BoldChild;6001952 said:lol, how he ain't get charged for some of the shit he reportedly had in the crib.
Guess they didn't go that hard on child porn back then.
That doesn't debunk it bruh. It just means Michael Jackson's collection of child erotica and child nudity isn't technically child porn.the_geche;6002970 said:The link in the OP has been spread a lot today b/c of Reddit. Too bad this has long since been debunked-Has child pornography ever been found in Michael Jackson’s possession?
No. Police extensively searched Jackson's premises both in 1993 and in 2003 and there was nothing illegal found, not in physical or digital format (ie. on computers). Child pornography is illegal to possess and the possession of it is a crime in itself, so had there been any child pornography found in Jackson’s possession he would have been charged with that crime and he never was charged with such a crime.
Despite of the fact that investigators acknowledged that “the search warrant didn’t result in anything that would support a criminal filing” , the prosecution in the media tried to bolster their case by referring to two legal art photography books from the 1960s, found at Neverland during the 1993 investigation, as “child erotica” because they included pictures of nude boys at play. One book, entitled The Boy: A Photographic Essay, judging from an inscription, was a gift Jackson received from a fan. The inscription read: “To Michael: From your fan, “Rhonda” ♥ 1983, Chicago”. The other entitled Boys Will Be Boys, had an inscription in it by Jackson himself and it read: “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children, MJ.” These books were shown to the jury at Jackson’s 2005 trial and possibly to the two Grand Juries which discussed the allegations against Jackson in 1994. These two books were a small portion of Jackson’s huge collection of art photography books, as he was an avid collector of books, especially art books, art photography books and vintage books.
In the 2005 search police confiscated sixteen computers from Neverland, four from Jackson’s bedroom, and sent them to the FBI for a forensic examination of their hard drives. None of the computers contained any illegal material or had any traces of access to illegal material on the Internet. The adult websites visited from the computers were all legal, heterosexual websites and the pictures found on their hard drives and stored in their caches, as far back as 1998, were legal, heterosexual material. Similarly, all the adult DVDs found in Jackson’s possession contained legal, heterosexual material.
All of this material were irrelevant to the charges and could not be directly linked to the prosecution's case so Judge Rodney Melville did not allow the prosecution to refer to this evidence in court. However, Judge Melville allowed the prosecution to introduce a couple of art books and a large amount of adult magazines into evidence [5]. The art photography books confiscated in the 2005 search were introduced because some of them included pictures of men and/or women partially clothed or nude. They were all legal and they were a small portion of the huge art book collection Jackson possessed. Most of them were found in big cardboard boxes among hundreds and thousands of other books.
The adult magazines found in Jackson’s possession noted release dates from 1991 up until September 2003 (the actual search took place in November 2003) and were all legally and commercially produced heterosexual material. Most of them were found in Jackson’s nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed and in a briefcase in a closet of his bedroom. The prosecution spent days displaying the magazines that they confiscated from Jackson’s bedroom on a big screen. Observers wondered what point they were trying to make with the detailed, graphic presentation of this completely legal collection that only pointed to Jackson’s sexual interest in women, other than perhaps, trying to publicly humiliate him and prejudice the conservative jury against him in the absence of real, relevant evidence.
Although the prosecution claimed that Jackson showed adult material to the 2003 accuser, Gavin Arvizo, in order to “groom” him – a claim that we fully address when we discuss the Arvizo allegations [link] - this would not explain the full array of Jackson’s adult magazines, many of which had release dates after the date the accuser left Neverland.
Darth Sidious;6003599 said:DROSAIN_BOLT;6003561 said:DIDNT MIKES DEATH DATE JUST PASS.....AND ALLLLLLLLL OF A SUDDEN THEY BRING THIS UP...THEY HAD YEAARRRRSSS TO GO THROUGH HIS STUFF. ..AND THE SUDDENLY FIND GAY AND PEDO SHYT???? I AIN'T BUYIN IT
You don't need to believe it, take his word on it. A 44 year old man sleeping with children isn't a beautiful thing as he described, it's a PEDO thing. SMH @ Michael sleeping with children to 'heal them'
KingJamal;6003557 said:I mean come on now lol
BlackxChild;6002571 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002438 said:BlackxChild;6002373 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002354 said:MontyM.Max;6002330 said:Mike was the greatest but he was clearly a fuckin queerdo. Anybody who disagrees is in denial.
Ok fine. He was creepy. He had dolls in his house. But I don't believe for one sec that he fucked any kids. I don't believe that bullshit
He openly admitted to sleeping with children in his bed.... You really think he was getting it in....
Question in would you let your kids stay the night over MJs house? Just answer that....
That's even more reason why I don't believe for one second that he is a pedophile. Pedophilia is a crime that is inherently insidious. It is a crime that requires conditioning, grooming, isolation, and secrecy. What pedophile would openly share with the world that they enjoy sleeping in the bed with children? None! Absolutely none. Full disclosure would be the antithesis of how child molesters operate. They do not openly talk about "sleeping" with kids. Something was really not equal about Michael obviously but I don't think he was hurting children.
Why is that out of a million kids that stayed on that ranch with him, 2 of those little bitches came forward with stories, 1 or which recanted in the years to come. All it takes is one victim to come forward and u would have a dozen more. U mean to tell me only two in 20 years ? TWO? This is bullshit!
Sandusky pretty much said he loved children thought they where beautiful and said similiar things.... Weirdos say weird shit...
obnoxiouslyfresh;6003900 said:BlackxChild;6002571 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002438 said:BlackxChild;6002373 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002354 said:MontyM.Max;6002330 said:Mike was the greatest but he was clearly a fuckin queerdo. Anybody who disagrees is in denial.
Ok fine. He was creepy. He had dolls in his house. But I don't believe for one sec that he fucked any kids. I don't believe that bullshit
He openly admitted to sleeping with children in his bed.... You really think he was getting it in....
Question in would you let your kids stay the night over MJs house? Just answer that....
That's even more reason why I don't believe for one second that he is a pedophile. Pedophilia is a crime that is inherently insidious. It is a crime that requires conditioning, grooming, isolation, and secrecy. What pedophile would openly share with the world that they enjoy sleeping in the bed with children? None! Absolutely none. Full disclosure would be the antithesis of how child molesters operate. They do not openly talk about "sleeping" with kids. Something was really not equal about Michael obviously but I don't think he was hurting children.
Why is that out of a million kids that stayed on that ranch with him, 2 of those little bitches came forward with stories, 1 or which recanted in the years to come. All it takes is one victim to come forward and u would have a dozen more. U mean to tell me only two in 20 years ? TWO? This is bullshit!
Sandusky pretty much said he loved children thought they where beautiful and said similiar things.... Weirdos say weird shit...
Similar things my ass. Saying "I love kids and they're beautiful" is a way of rationalizing your need to have them around. He had to do this to offer explanation as to why kids were always present. So u really think Sandusky would go as far to say "and btw, we sleep together and cuddle too."
obnoxiouslyfresh;6003900 said:BlackxChild;6002571 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002438 said:BlackxChild;6002373 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;6002354 said:MontyM.Max;6002330 said:Mike was the greatest but he was clearly a fuckin queerdo. Anybody who disagrees is in denial.
Ok fine. He was creepy. He had dolls in his house. But I don't believe for one sec that he fucked any kids. I don't believe that bullshit
He openly admitted to sleeping with children in his bed.... You really think he was getting it in....
Question in would you let your kids stay the night over MJs house? Just answer that....
That's even more reason why I don't believe for one second that he is a pedophile. Pedophilia is a crime that is inherently insidious. It is a crime that requires conditioning, grooming, isolation, and secrecy. What pedophile would openly share with the world that they enjoy sleeping in the bed with children? None! Absolutely none. Full disclosure would be the antithesis of how child molesters operate. They do not openly talk about "sleeping" with kids. Something was really not equal about Michael obviously but I don't think he was hurting children.
Why is that out of a million kids that stayed on that ranch with him, 2 of those little bitches came forward with stories, 1 or which recanted in the years to come. All it takes is one victim to come forward and u would have a dozen more. U mean to tell me only two in 20 years ? TWO? This is bullshit!
Sandusky pretty much said he loved children thought they where beautiful and said similiar things.... Weirdos say weird shit...
Similar things my ass. Saying "I love kids and they're beautiful" is a way of rationalizing your need to have them around. He had to do this to offer explanation as to why kids were always present. So u really think Sandusky would go as far to say "and btw, we sleep together and cuddle too."
I knew I said that I was going to refrain from posting in this topic but this will definitely be my last post. Please actually read what I posted. The books that the prosecution tried to label as "child erotica" were both photography books from the 60s which had non-sexual and implied nudity (which was not the point of the works at all). I suggest everyone also reads this book-http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1269426.Michael_Jackson_Conspiracy It goes into great detail all the supposed evidence that was found at MJ's crib. I know the book title looks very one-sided but it's actually very factual. It contains a lot of trial excerpts and it's pretty revelatory. At least for that specific court case, Michael Jackson is clearly innocent and the jury agreed...Gold_Certificate;6003882 said:That doesn't debunk it bruh. It just means Michael Jackson's collection of child erotica and child nudity isn't technically child porn.the_geche;6002970 said:The link in the OP has been spread a lot today b/c of Reddit. Too bad this has long since been debunked-Has child pornography ever been found in Michael Jackson’s possession?
No. Police extensively searched Jackson's premises both in 1993 and in 2003 and there was nothing illegal found, not in physical or digital format (ie. on computers). Child pornography is illegal to possess and the possession of it is a crime in itself, so had there been any child pornography found in Jackson’s possession he would have been charged with that crime and he never was charged with such a crime.
Despite of the fact that investigators acknowledged that “the search warrant didn’t result in anything that would support a criminal filing” , the prosecution in the media tried to bolster their case by referring to two legal art photography books from the 1960s, found at Neverland during the 1993 investigation, as “child erotica” because they included pictures of nude boys at play. One book, entitled The Boy: A Photographic Essay, judging from an inscription, was a gift Jackson received from a fan. The inscription read: “To Michael: From your fan, “Rhonda” ♥ 1983, Chicago”. The other entitled Boys Will Be Boys, had an inscription in it by Jackson himself and it read: “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children, MJ.” These books were shown to the jury at Jackson’s 2005 trial and possibly to the two Grand Juries which discussed the allegations against Jackson in 1994. These two books were a small portion of Jackson’s huge collection of art photography books, as he was an avid collector of books, especially art books, art photography books and vintage books.
In the 2005 search police confiscated sixteen computers from Neverland, four from Jackson’s bedroom, and sent them to the FBI for a forensic examination of their hard drives. None of the computers contained any illegal material or had any traces of access to illegal material on the Internet. The adult websites visited from the computers were all legal, heterosexual websites and the pictures found on their hard drives and stored in their caches, as far back as 1998, were legal, heterosexual material. Similarly, all the adult DVDs found in Jackson’s possession contained legal, heterosexual material.
All of this material were irrelevant to the charges and could not be directly linked to the prosecution's case so Judge Rodney Melville did not allow the prosecution to refer to this evidence in court. However, Judge Melville allowed the prosecution to introduce a couple of art books and a large amount of adult magazines into evidence [5]. The art photography books confiscated in the 2005 search were introduced because some of them included pictures of men and/or women partially clothed or nude. They were all legal and they were a small portion of the huge art book collection Jackson possessed. Most of them were found in big cardboard boxes among hundreds and thousands of other books.
The adult magazines found in Jackson’s possession noted release dates from 1991 up until September 2003 (the actual search took place in November 2003) and were all legally and commercially produced heterosexual material. Most of them were found in Jackson’s nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed and in a briefcase in a closet of his bedroom. The prosecution spent days displaying the magazines that they confiscated from Jackson’s bedroom on a big screen. Observers wondered what point they were trying to make with the detailed, graphic presentation of this completely legal collection that only pointed to Jackson’s sexual interest in women, other than perhaps, trying to publicly humiliate him and prejudice the conservative jury against him in the absence of real, relevant evidence.
Although the prosecution claimed that Jackson showed adult material to the 2003 accuser, Gavin Arvizo, in order to “groom” him – a claim that we fully address when we discuss the Arvizo allegations [link] - this would not explain the full array of Jackson’s adult magazines, many of which had release dates after the date the accuser left Neverland.
Doesn't mean he didn't have the child erotica/nudity in the first place.
Word. Plus the bitch R. Kelly fucked was like 15.Elam Ferguson;6003947 said:R. Kelly is a much better musician and he ain't a faggot, and most importantly he's still breathing but niggas wont defend him like they defend this queer with 14 pages of gay porn titles?
damobb2deep;6002944 said:BlackxChild;6002831 said:damobb2deep;6002683 said:pelle pelle;6002576 said:really? callin a pedophile a pedophile is bashing?damobb2deep;6002514 said:pelle pelle;6002055 said:aint no speculation nigga..you sound like one of them dumb bitches that be on steve wilkos not wanting to admit their man is fuckin their daughter...damobb2deep;6002020 said:Igot5onit;6001998 said:damobb2deep;6001976 said:nigga been gone for 4 years dawg..
what does this do?
smh niggas still wanna speculate about his life LONG after his death... let the man rest..
Pedophiles shouldn't be celebrated, I don't give a fuck how talented he was.
speculation dawg... btw if all that was the truth... they would have convicted him in 05... that was a focal point in that trial..
Well guess what...the lie detector test determined you's a dummy if you think michael jackson wasn't a pedophile
u sound like the type of nigga that jus wanna bash sombody jus 2 bash them cuz it makes u feel good...
Tell me why I should consider anything you say in this thread relevant when you had no problems saying you'll suck a dick to feed your kids?
Go to church my nigga..you seem lost
chill out u dont kno what u talkin bout..
1 what i said in a hypothetical thread ova a year ago has nothing 2 do wit this....
2 if mj was a pedo im SURE his kids.. woulda been aware of that and said somthin by now...
3 those documents would have put dude in jail if that was true..
4 you must have been real jaded when he died cuz 4 like a year afterward and every june 25th since he is all over the place..
.... Most kids whose parents are pedophiles don't know there parent was a pedophile til they're caught by cops....
lol most pedophiles molest their OWN kids..
Yes. Michael Jackson had a collection of books and photographs with nude children.the_geche;6003958 said:I knew I said that I was going to refrain from posting in this topic but this will definitely be my last post. Please actually read what I posted. The books that the prosecution tried to label as "child erotica" were both photography books from the 60s which had non-sexual and implied nudity (which was not the point of the works at all). I suggest everyone also reads this book-http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1269426.Michael_Jackson_Conspiracy It goes into great detail all the supposed evidence that was found at MJ's crib. I know the book title looks very one-sided but it's actually very factual. It contains a lot of trial excerpts and it's pretty revelatory. At least for that specific court case, Michael Jackson is clearly innocent and the jury agreed...Gold_Certificate;6003882 said:That doesn't debunk it bruh. It just means Michael Jackson's collection of child erotica and child nudity isn't technically child porn.the_geche;6002970 said:The link in the OP has been spread a lot today b/c of Reddit. Too bad this has long since been debunked-Has child pornography ever been found in Michael Jackson’s possession?
No. Police extensively searched Jackson's premises both in 1993 and in 2003 and there was nothing illegal found, not in physical or digital format (ie. on computers). Child pornography is illegal to possess and the possession of it is a crime in itself, so had there been any child pornography found in Jackson’s possession he would have been charged with that crime and he never was charged with such a crime.
Despite of the fact that investigators acknowledged that “the search warrant didn’t result in anything that would support a criminal filing” , the prosecution in the media tried to bolster their case by referring to two legal art photography books from the 1960s, found at Neverland during the 1993 investigation, as “child erotica” because they included pictures of nude boys at play. One book, entitled The Boy: A Photographic Essay, judging from an inscription, was a gift Jackson received from a fan. The inscription read: “To Michael: From your fan, “Rhonda” ♥ 1983, Chicago”. The other entitled Boys Will Be Boys, had an inscription in it by Jackson himself and it read: “Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children, MJ.” These books were shown to the jury at Jackson’s 2005 trial and possibly to the two Grand Juries which discussed the allegations against Jackson in 1994. These two books were a small portion of Jackson’s huge collection of art photography books, as he was an avid collector of books, especially art books, art photography books and vintage books.
In the 2005 search police confiscated sixteen computers from Neverland, four from Jackson’s bedroom, and sent them to the FBI for a forensic examination of their hard drives. None of the computers contained any illegal material or had any traces of access to illegal material on the Internet. The adult websites visited from the computers were all legal, heterosexual websites and the pictures found on their hard drives and stored in their caches, as far back as 1998, were legal, heterosexual material. Similarly, all the adult DVDs found in Jackson’s possession contained legal, heterosexual material.
All of this material were irrelevant to the charges and could not be directly linked to the prosecution's case so Judge Rodney Melville did not allow the prosecution to refer to this evidence in court. However, Judge Melville allowed the prosecution to introduce a couple of art books and a large amount of adult magazines into evidence [5]. The art photography books confiscated in the 2005 search were introduced because some of them included pictures of men and/or women partially clothed or nude. They were all legal and they were a small portion of the huge art book collection Jackson possessed. Most of them were found in big cardboard boxes among hundreds and thousands of other books.
The adult magazines found in Jackson’s possession noted release dates from 1991 up until September 2003 (the actual search took place in November 2003) and were all legally and commercially produced heterosexual material. Most of them were found in Jackson’s nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed and in a briefcase in a closet of his bedroom. The prosecution spent days displaying the magazines that they confiscated from Jackson’s bedroom on a big screen. Observers wondered what point they were trying to make with the detailed, graphic presentation of this completely legal collection that only pointed to Jackson’s sexual interest in women, other than perhaps, trying to publicly humiliate him and prejudice the conservative jury against him in the absence of real, relevant evidence.
Although the prosecution claimed that Jackson showed adult material to the 2003 accuser, Gavin Arvizo, in order to “groom” him – a claim that we fully address when we discuss the Arvizo allegations [link] - this would not explain the full array of Jackson’s adult magazines, many of which had release dates after the date the accuser left Neverland.
Doesn't mean he didn't have the child erotica/nudity in the first place.