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[yroholla]

Bottom line, i take nothing away from Wade's 06 performance. But for him to be the BEST in the league??

For comaprison's sake, look at tape of Kobe from 04-08 when he was the 'best' (or 2nd depending on...)

Look at his footwork, mid range game, ability to shoot from anywhere...

Then look at D Wade now, how instead of taking a wide open jump shot he does that lil pump fake shyt or drives into 3 nggas

smh And i dont even fuk wit Kobe, but i repsect him. Wade now vs. Kobe then is disgustingly unfair to Kobe.

I kno that wasnt the argument, but Dwayne Wade being the best player in the league?

How the fuk you the best player in the game, yet people blame your 'sidekick' when yall lose?????

Did Bosh not average 19 a game? Did Bron not avg 17 a game?..Bron more than stepped out the way to let Wade shine.

You give Kobe that support and he wins that Chip vs. Dallas

But no, no one blames Wade b/c wheter they know they're admitting it or not, LEBRON IS THE BETTER PLAYER, thus he gets the blame.

Bron aint best in the league, but he damn sure better than Wade.

Nigga Kobe won two rings straight with the squad he lost with this year I'm not tryna hear shit about him needing the support to beat Dallas....with that said...Miami didn't need LeBron to drop 30 plus to win...just do respectable sidekick numbers like 22 pts per game at least and not look shook down the stretch.....funny how Dallas defense held both Kobe and LeBron to 17 ppg and Wade had like 26-27 till prolly game 6....of course cats ignore that tho...point is the playoff version of Wade is more dependable than both them cats to come up huge in important games.....offensively and defensively....Kobes best Finals appearance numberwise ain't even better than what Wade did his second Finals appearance....and again iim a big Kobe fan but I'm not gonna let a nigga slide cause I'm a fan of his game like most niggas do in here...

Bron is athletically the best and has no equal physically at his position, that's fact and he should be taking advantage of that...but he don't have that will to play thru adversity like Wade n Kobe....so he's not the best...and even after two failed Finals appearances u still can't see it...smh...a fan gonna always be a fan tho

 

[adagreat]

lebron james

derrick rose

dewyane wade

Drik

Kevin Durant!

every body else come after!

 

[S2J]

Nigga Kobe won two rings straight with the squad he lost with this year I'm not tryna hear shit about him needing the support to beat Dallas....with that said...Miami didn't need LeBron to drop 30 plus to win...just do respectable sidekick numbers like 22 pts per game at least and not look shook down the stretch.....funny how Dallas defense held both Kobe and LeBron to 17 ppg and Wade had like 26-27 till prolly game 6....of course cats ignore that tho...point is the playoff version of Wade is more dependable than both them cats to come up huge in important games.....offensively and defensively....Kobes best Finals appearance numberwise ain't even better than what Wade did his second Finals appearance....and again iim a big Kobe fan but I'm not gonna let a nigga slide cause I'm a fan of his game like most niggas do in here...

Bron is athletically the best and has no equal physically at his position, that's fact and he should be taking advantage of that...but he don't have that will to play thru adversity like Wade n Kobe....so he's not the best...and even after two failed Finals appearances u still can't see it...smh...a fan gonna always be a fan tho

Sheesh.

Sir, i highly recommend you get familiar with some statistics instead of relying on your shoddy ass memory

1) Cot dam im not even a Kobe fan but SHYT...so now DWade's 1 Finals triumph > Kobe's 7 trips???

So now we gon compare 10 Finals games to 40 Finals games and act like thats a proper comparison?

So now we gon act like Kobe aint avg at or above 30ppg the last 2 finals?

Kobe averaged 17 against Dallas? Weird cuz the facts say he averaged 23ppg, and Wade avg. 24ppg...

LET ME REPEAT THAT

Lost in all this hullabalo for DWade is he averaged 24 cot damn points against Dallas...

Yet he is the greatest Finals player ever let yall tell it. Yuck.

 

[b*braze]

Nigga Kobe won two rings straight with the squad he lost with this year I'm not tryna hear shit about him needing the support to beat Dallas....with that said...Miami didn't need LeBron to drop 30 plus to win...just do respectable sidekick numbers like 22 pts per game at least and not look shook down the stretch.....funny how Dallas defense held both Kobe and LeBron to 17 ppg and Wade had like 26-27 till prolly game 6....of course cats ignore that tho...point is the playoff version of Wade is more dependable than both them cats to come up huge in important games.....offensively and defensively....Kobes best Finals appearance numberwise ain't even better than what Wade did his second Finals appearance....and again iim a big Kobe fan but I'm not gonna let a nigga slide cause I'm a fan of his game like most niggas do in here...

Bron is athletically the best and has no equal physically at his position, that's fact and he should be taking advantage of that...but he don't have that will to play thru adversity like Wade n Kobe....so he's not the best...and even after two failed Finals appearances u still can't see it...smh...a fan gonna always be a fan tho

2009 kobe said thats a goddamned lie

 

[b*braze]

Sheesh.

Sir, i highly recommend you get familiar with some statistics instead of relying on your shoddy ass memory

1) Cot dam im not even a Kobe fan but SHYT...so now DWade's 1 Finals triumph > Kobe's 7 trips???

So now we gon compare 10 Finals games to 40 Finals games and act like thats a proper comparison?

So now we gon act like Kobe aint avg at or above 30ppg the last 2 finals?

Kobe averaged 17 against Dallas? Weird cuz the facts say he averaged 23ppg, and Wade avg. 24ppg...

LET ME REPEAT THAT

Lost in all this hullabalo for DWade is he averaged 24 cot damn points against Dallas...

Yet he is the greatest Finals player ever let yall tell it. Yuck.

to be fair tho... that 17 point game 6 dropped his avg significantly. aside from that he was pretty good in the finals

 

[PippensBulls]

Nigga Kobe won two rings straight with the squad he lost with this year I'm not tryna hear shit about him needing the support to beat Dallas....with that said...Miami didn't need LeBron to drop 30 plus to win...just do respectable sidekick numbers like 22 pts per game at least and not look shook down the stretch...

The lakers won 2 rings with their two option averaging 18pts. This post season their sidekick averaged 12pts with a 40% field goal percentage. Thats barely half of that 22ppg you say is respectable for a sidekick. So whether you are trying to hear it or not it is relevant. The lakers had 1 player average 20 ppg, Wade and the heat had THREE players average 20ppg in the playoffs and they still lost.

This is just as big a black mark on Wade as it was on Lebron. You want to criticize the lakers for losing with only one 20ppg scorer and give Wade a pass for losing with his 3rd option averaging 20ppg, almost twice as much as the lakers 2nd option. Even if Lebron didn't play, Wade should have still gotten it done with Bosh averaging 20ppg.

to be fair tho... that 17 point game 6 dropped his avg significantly. aside from that he was pretty good in the finals

That 8pt game dropped Lebron's average more significantly. Besides that his numbers were pretty good in the finals.

 

[S2J]

to be fair tho... that 17 point game 6 dropped his avg significantly. aside from that he was pretty good in the finals

*Shaqface*

Broham you seem like you would know better than that.

1) When your dealing with such a small sample size, of course 1 game would considerably change an average.

THATS WHY ITS CALLED AN AVERAGE!

2) DWade's Finals stat log was 22, 36, 29, 32, 23, 17...*Yawn* Three games above average, three games below average...

That basically sums up his regular season output...occasional 30 spots, but if he's not getting calls, he'll put out 'good' numbers, not great.

 

[S2J]

The lakers won 2 rings with their two option averaging 18pts. This post season their sidekick averaged 12pts with a 40% field goal percentage. Thats barely half of that 22ppg you say is respectable for a sidekick. So whether you are trying to hear it or not it is relevant. The lakers had 1 player average 20 ppg, Wade and the heat had THREE players average 20ppg in the playoffs and they still lost.

This is just as big a black mark on Wade as it was on Lebron. You want to criticize the lakers for losing with only one 20ppg scorer and give Wade a pass for losing with his 3rd option averaging 20ppg, almost twice as much as the lakers 2nd option. Even if Lebron didn't play, Wade should have still gotten it done with Bosh averaging 20ppg.

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Exactttttly.

Look at MOST recent teams and that would have been enough

Kobe-Pao and Odom

Duncan- Tony and Manu

Hell, even Dirk- Terry and Marion

Want to go back more?

Olajuwon- Drexler and_____

Jordan- Pippen and Grant/Kukoc

^^^^None of them sidekicks avg 20ppg, except the year TP won Finals MVP, and Drexler avg 21

I've never heard the best player on a champioship team NEEDING 2 nggas he's supposedly better than to avg 20 a game.

Thats why Bron gets the criticism! To he whom much is given, much is expected.

Thats why Wade is unscathed by 90% of people in this...cuz the eye test and stats dont lie. Bron is BETTER than Wade when he aint on his bullshyt

If Wade was better, why the FUK would we care what Bron did? Why do we not blast him for only avg 24 ppg in the Finals!!!!!!

Can you imagine if Kobe avg 24ppg in the Finals and they lost!!

Even w/ 6/24, Kobe avg 29ppg last year in the Finals!

gtfoh lmao

 

[dallas' 4 eva]

Nigga Kobe won two rings straight with the squad he lost with this year I'm not tryna hear shit about him needing the support to beat Dallas....with that said...Miami didn't need LeBron to drop 30 plus to win...just do respectable sidekick numbers like 22 pts per game at least and not look shook down the stretch.....funny how Dallas defense held both Kobe and LeBron to 17 ppg and Wade had like 26-27 till prolly game 6....of course cats ignore that tho...point is the playoff version of Wade is more dependable than both them cats to come up huge in important games.....offensively and defensively....Kobes best Finals appearance numberwise ain't even better than what Wade did his second Finals appearance....and again iim a big Kobe fan but I'm not gonna let a nigga slide cause I'm a fan of his game like most niggas do in here...

Bron is athletically the best and has no equal physically at his position, that's fact and he should be taking advantage of that...but he don't have that will to play thru adversity like Wade n Kobe....so he's not the best...and even after two failed Finals appearances u still can't see it...smh...a fan gonna always be a fan tho

Nigga whoever told you this needs to kill themselves. Kobe's averages in the finals from 08-09 and 09-10 were both better than Wade's two trips bro.

 

[radaman]

I aint read the whole thread but smfh at Lebron not being top 5 on either list... retarded as fuck

 

[b*braze]

The lakers won 2 rings with their two option averaging 18pts. This post season their sidekick averaged 12pts with a 40% field goal percentage. Thats barely half of that 22ppg you say is respectable for a sidekick. So whether you are trying to hear it or not it is relevant. The lakers had 1 player average 20 ppg, Wade and the heat had THREE players average 20ppg in the playoffs and they still lost.

This is just as big a black mark on Wade as it was on Lebron. You want to criticize the lakers for losing with only one 20ppg scorer and give Wade a pass for losing with his 3rd option averaging 20ppg, almost twice as much as the lakers 2nd option. Even if Lebron didn't play, Wade should have still gotten it done with Bosh averaging 20ppg.

good point

That 8pt game dropped Lebron's average more significantly. Besides that his numbers were pretty good in the finals.

not really... unless you talkin about for a number 3 option

 

[Focal Point]

Really... and Rose, who Lebron SHUT DOWN in the ECF is ahead of him (Parker)

all I know is... it's not shutting Rose down when he doesn't have a jumpshot... it's Rose shutting himself down

 

[S2J]

all I know is... it's not shutting Rose down when he doesn't have a jumpshot... it's Rose shutting himself down

??? Rose does have a jumpshot now

Chalk that up to Lebron being a beast and being 6'8

That wasnt any type of indictment on Rose's game at all...

 

[playmaker88]

the reason bron. "shut down rose" is beause like him he has no consistent jumper although it has improved..lebron guarded him like 4 feet off and he has no subtlety in his game.. its fast.. and fast..

 

[_Goldie_]

Bs comes out of Parkers mouth 9 outta 10 times

My list

1.Kobe (U know he's gonna come back hungry) smh @ pau playin like a bitch da whole postseason
2.Dirk (unguardable)
3.Chris Paul
4.Dwight/Wade
5.Lebron

 

[yroholla]

The lakers won 2 rings with their two option averaging 18pts. This post season their sidekick averaged 12pts with a 40% field goal percentage. Thats barely half of that 22ppg you say is respectable for a sidekick. So whether you are trying to hear it or not it is relevant. The lakers had 1 player average 20 ppg, Wade and the heat had THREE players average 20ppg in the playoffs and they still lost.

This is just as big a black mark on Wade as it was on Lebron. You want to criticize the lakers for losing with only one 20ppg scorer and give Wade a pass for losing with his 3rd option averaging 20ppg, almost twice as much as the lakers 2nd option. Even if Lebron didn't play, Wade should have still gotten it done with Bosh averaging 20ppg.

That 8pt game dropped Lebron's average more significantly. Besides that his numbers were pretty good in the finals.

I disagree.....its not only about who scored how many points altho it is important....but there's other variables that u didn't consider...one being that the Lakers had Phil Jackson for one, secondly the Lakers are a deeper squad from top to bottom, so even if Kobes other options didn't score as much as they should have the rest of the team is good enough to pick up the slack but they didn't ...oh well...they're a championship team for a reason and they came in to the season off winning two straight rings so comparing the Lakers and the Heat from that point of view nullifies ur argument....

And I will concede that the Heat losing should be as much of Wades fault as LeBrons...problem is that in many ppls eyes, LeBron is better than Wade and his hype exceeds everybody elses in tthe league...and if we all gonna hold Wade accountable for the loss in the Finals then we all have to admit that Wade is the best player on the Heat...and if u disagree then there really is no argument...so going by general consensus is it LeBrons fault...yup..in my opinion is it all LeBrons fault? Not entirely, although he did play timid as fuck WHEN IT MATTERED and didn't take over the game when Wade got injured in Game 5..and only dropped 8 points with J Kidd as his primary defender.....so yeah, with Wade defering to LeBron when LeBron didn't have it going did kind of hurt the Heat in a way, but u can't say LeBron didn't have a chance to redeem himself

And with Lebrons off the court antics positing on his twitter page saying shit like "Now or Never" and saying the Game is the biggest game of his career and go drop 8 points the next night....I mean we all had high expectations of dude already but clearly he is adding fuel to the fire and raising our expectations with saying shit like that...and we not supposed to criticize him when he chokes???? U don't see Wade sayin dumb shit like that or crying like Bosh after games...the nigga just Balls and that's what I respect and give props to