Shocking - Ice T disses Rick Ross " I call him Identitiy Crisis"

[infamous114]

lol I respect Ice T as a pioneer, but Rick Ross > Ice T

 

[southernmade]

“Don’t start that article with none of that Ice-T disses Rick Ross bullsh*t,” Ice-T tells me, mere moments after dissing Rick Ross.

The scene was the 11th floor of the Paley Center for Media, roughly an hour or so before last night’s world premiere screening of VH1′s latest Rock Doc, Planet Rock: The Story of Hip Hop and the Crack Generation. The green room was filled with some of the larger-than-life personalities that make this powerful movie what it is: Notorious crack kingpin turned socially conscious rapper Azie Faison (pictured above), cultural critic and highly regarded journalist Nelson George, and the O.G. himself, Ice-T (I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that Ice-T’s bombshell wife, Coco, was typing away on her Blackberry while sitting on a couch on the other side of the room). Because Ice was very forthcoming with his thoughts, I’m going to honor his request and put his scathing words for the likes of Rick Ross, Lil Wayne and Kanye West on hold for a bit (but don’t worry, we’ll get to ‘em quick).

Planet Rock is the first documentary film to focus on the undeniable effect that the crack cocaine “epidemic” of the 1980s had on the world of hip-hop, and vice versa. After watching the doc and its strikingly honest interviews with former gangbangers turned music superstars like Snoop Dogg, B-Real of Cypress Hill, and RZA and Raekwon of the Wu-Tang Clan, you really get a vivid picture of not only how these worlds were intertwined from the outset, but also the incredible fallout that resulted when crack was introduced into these neighborhoods (which, some allege, was the direct result of C.I.A. intervention). Even Ice-T, who was out of the game when his single “6 In The Mornin” hit big in 1986, was running with some of the crack game’s biggest players.

“Freeway Rick is my friend, he came to my wedding,” Ice-T tells me when I ask him if he ever crossed paths with Freeway Ricky Ross, who has a starring role in the documentary and was the crack game equivalent of Scarface‘s Tony Montana in mid-eighties era Los Angeles. “I knew all those cats, I grew up with them. People would ask me if Freeway Rick was a drug dealer, and I would tell them that I never saw him deal drugs. How can you say that’s what someone is if you never see it personally?”

Well, the government saw it otherwise and locked Freeway Rick (pictured right) up for thirteen years, but the very fact that Ice-T ran with a very tough group of individuals is what gave him his street cred in the first place, establishing him as the very first of the group of rappers that would soon come to be branded by the media as “gangsta rappers.” I asked him if he ever thought he crossed the line between sharing the harsh realities of the street and glamorizing the criminal lifestyle, and he candidly responded, “I don’t draw a line, I just try to tell the truth. If you tell the truth, it’s gonna have a pro side and a con side. So I try to tell the full story, not just the story of when the hustler’s winning, but the trials and tribulations of the sh*t he goes through. The only line that’s drawn is that you don’t use real names, you don’t wanna dry snitch yourself out. Why would I give authority a shovel to bury me, why am I gonna rap about something that’s really happening?”

Clearly, with that last bit, Ice is referencing rappers out there today like Rick Ross, who becomes a focal point in the last 15 minutes or so of Planet Rock. Despite all of the hard work that the hip hop community did to help to position crack as a demonic drug (think Public Enemy‘s “Night Of The Living Baseheads,” think Too Short‘s “The Ghetto”) and the amount of damage the drug did to the black community, a new breed of rappers have pushed themselves to the top of the game by bragging about their alleged association with the world of organized crime and the drug scene, despite large amounts of evidence that they’re actually poseurs.

“That’s fake,” Ice-T blurts out. “Rick Ross stole a n****’s name. I call him ‘Identity Crisis.’ He thinks he’s [Freeway] Rick Ross, he thinks he’s Larry Hoover, he thinks he’s Big Meech, he thinks he’s MC Hammer, he thinks he’s Tupac. Like, who the f*ck are you really, dude?”

Ice continues, “When we rapped about dope— me, Snoop and everybody—it was like we doin’ it because we GOT to. Now these n***** is actin’ like it’s somethin’ that’s FUN. It’s so easy to fantasize about it. To actively do it? That’s a whole ‘nother f*ckin’ thing.

“You can see that it’s not real,” Azie Faison adds. “You understand, if it was real, you wouldn’t be talkin’ about it. You might be puttin’ money into it, coachin’ someone else to try to get up out of [the drug game], but you wouldn’t be on blast talkin’ like it’s real because these police, they ain’t playin. They’re comin’ for ya.”

To Ice-T, the issue with rap music these days has to do with accountability. “You can tell kids these days any motherf*****’ thing and they’ll believe it,” he laments. “There’s not a code of accountability in hip hop. When I came out, if you said it, you HAD to be about it. N***** would check you really quickly.”

At this point, I press Ice on whether he thinks there’s a famous rapper out there right now who has enough visibility and credibility who can serve as a rap ombudsman, if you will. According to Ice-T, that’s not really the issue, though. It’s more that rap, as a musical artform, has changed.

“Rap is pop right now,” he explains. “Q-Tip said, ‘Rap is not pop. If you call it that, then stop.’ Rap was a counterculture that went against pop. But when you have Rihanna singin’ on your records and you’re doin’ records with Katy Perry, that’s no longer rap. It’s pop music, pop using rap delivery. When you hear Lil Wayne sayin’ ‘I got a chopper in the car,’ you go, ‘Yeah, right you do.‘”

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhwuexOvgu6Vk26FXB ****Bonus**** Tupac Back (Rick Ross Diss) ft Freeway Ricky Ross.

Same formula right now, when all else fails, diss Rick Ross.

i fuck with Ross but the bolded is kind of funny lol.....

 

[KingJamal]

i fuck with Ross but the bolded is kind of funny lol.....

Cosign lol

 

[jrod44]

lol I respect Ice T as a pioneer, but Rick Ross > Ice T

Ice T was that dude.

This shit he talking right now is retarded though, he talking about the glory days like these new dudes on the scene dont be playing ball.

 

[KingJamal]

I mean I enjoy Ross' music but its just entertainment and I look at Ross the same way I look at a cartoon character

 

[jrod44]

I mean I enjoy Ross' music but its just entertainment and I look at Ross the same way I look at a cartoon character

the problem i got though, is that Ice cant see he was a character too.

 

[BlackAX410]

Says the cop killer who played a cop on TV 10 years later hypocrisy at it's finest lls

 

[FoolTime]

lol I respect Ice T as a pioneer, but Rick Ross > Ice T

And that's the problem wit yall niggas these days. Yall would rather shoot the messenger than refute the message. You did that by putting the greater/more than sign comparing these two cats.

What T is saying used to mean something in the rap game. It used to be frowned upon to be a fraud, now days it's expected and encouraged. This shit may be entertainment to most yall niggas but hip hop's my culture

I will say that Ross a decent emcee but I wish he would have got in the game by bein true to himself...problem is he probably couldnt have got in the game that way

 

[H-Rap 180]

LOL Ice T is a West-Coast O.G.

Ice T. is married to a white bitch so I knew it was only a matter of time before he took some shots.

Ice T. made a good point tho', when you name-drop people in your songs people might automatically assume that you think you are the people that you are paying homage to.

[video=youtube;rloidlFbi4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rloidlFbi4w[/video]

 

[deathrowzorrow]

Says the cop killer who played a cop on TV 10 years later hypocrisy at it's finest lls

Atleast its just TV. Rick Ross lied about his whole life. Fuck you nigga where you at??? You want me to smack the shit out of you? U dont understand that Rick Ross is a Liar and a faggot? He work for the Police. U FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER. I will smack the shit out of you suwoop nigga. Bitch ass nigga

 

[FoolTime]

Coco alone = WIN

 

[jrod44]

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Difference is maybe guys like Meech and Black didnt drop dime while maybe guys who supposedly made a million a day, get out after 13 years????

I dont know anything myself, im just saying.

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

the mm stans bout to go in a uproar lmao.

 

[MrCrookedLetter]

Atleast its just TV. Rick Ross lied about his whole life. Fuck you nigga where you at??? You want me to smack the shit out of you? U dont understand that Rick Ross is a Liar and a faggot? He work for the Police. U FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER. I will smack the shit out of you suwoop nigga. Bitch ass nigga

Lmao Jeff Axel better get them nunchucks ready cause this nigga comin for u lol

 

[jrod44]

he has a right to his opinion...
he didnt say anything outrageous....
you can like Rick Ross and acknowledge that his persona is at least in some part based on Freeways life...
if Freeways is Ice's boy like he says, I can see him taking his side...
and aint shit hypocritical about making "Cop Killer" and playing a cop on tv...

he can have his opinion, true, but he was the same shit, piggybacking off real gangsters. He name dropping Freeway, today. How is that different from Ross name dropping Boobie?

They both characters to me.

 

[Niggas back]

Ice T just shared real niggas views. ross is a fraud, a big fat fraud

 

[BlackAX410]

Atleast its just TV. Rick Ross lied about his whole life. Fuck you nigga where you at??? You want me to smack the shit out of you? U dont understand that Rick Ross is a Liar and a faggot? He work for the Police. U FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER. I will smack the shit out of you suwoop nigga. Bitch ass nigga

lmfao @ the Swedish faggot claiming blood come out to maryland if u want to u aint smacking shit hahaha E-thugs are hilarious

 

[Niggas back]

fake and ice t are like water and fire. Nigga's resume speaks for itself

 

[FoolTime]

fake and ice t are like water and fire. Nigga's resume speaks for itself

Yeah gettin guap doin acting gigs is some fake ass shit

 

[ustreet_monsta]

Rawse is lucky the Real Rick Ross is old and washed up.

The younger generation doesnt give a fuck what him or Ice T think.

All these pioneers w/ opinions about rap today shoulda started a rap council when they had the juice.

Melle Mel, KRS, and Chuck D, Ice T, whoever. Need to stop complaining about the culture and do something to fix it.