Shane Douglas>Triple H

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I thought that promo was funny as shit when I was younger, then I learned more about the history of the title and the company..doing that took the promo to the next level. It makes my soul burn. He ethered all those cats.

I wonder what Ricky Steamboat thought about this, he and Douglas were partners for years in WCW.
 
powerman 5000;7194786 said:
Shane did more for ecw then HHH did for wwe. These are issues that newer wrestling fans won't understand.

You have to look at that in context though. What exactly was ECW before Shane Douglas? What was the WWE before HHH?

Douglas did a lot for a small, independent company that stayed small and independent. HHH helped keep the machine running another 15-20 years.

 
ECW grew alot more from where it was when Shane Douglas was champ. Not his fault Heyman sucked with financial and he already left by mid to late 98.

Anyone remember Eastern Championship Wrestling in 93? It makes TNA impact look like the World Cup.
 
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I'm a big fan of Douglas in ECW, he was one of the few actual wrestlers in the company that was a natural fit for his role. He had been kicked around by both the major promotions and was pissed off so he built a character around his frustrations.

HHH did the same thing just on a larger scale. "The Game" was built from his frustrations over being buried for two years.

To be honest they bruh needed it. Sometimes you have to let guys blow off steam and it changes fan perception...whether it should change or not.

I remembered Dean Douglas, as I was pretty much a WWF fan, and if it wasn't for Shane going hard on the Fed and WCW I wouldn't have taken him seriously as a main event guy. Him throwing the NWA title down to me was the first major pipebomb promo, you got to give him credit for that. His character peeled back the curtain a bit and gave fans a peek into the devious and overly political world of professional wrestling, it's the stuff dirtsheets are made of these days.

It was refreshing then, so you got to give Douglas more credit for that, HHH did the same thing but because it was after Douglas, it was after the damn near shoot promos HBK and Bret were doing on each other it wasn't as original but there it was an equally great move.

Well said. Hey you new WWE CM Punk fans, on 8.27.94 almost 20 years ago..

Shane Douglas sends a message: ECW, Aug. 27, 1994:


when i watch his "pipe bomb" at roh exercpt from his dvd, its almost as if he did it to pay homage to shane, even had the shane douglas colors on
 
The Franchise Shane Douglas is one of the greatest characters ever. Some of you younger cats just don't understand and will never get it because retrospective clips will never do it justice. Context is key and it really was something you had to witness as it was happening cause it was unprecedented at the time. There wasn't anything like it in pro wrestling before.

To see someone purposely say "fuck kayfabe" and shoot on the mic like he used to was just crazy even to those of us who knew it was fake by that point. It was always hilarious how one of the guys who helped bury Douglas the worst in WWF just went on to blatantly play shark biter with his unique gimmick. I know no idea's original especially in pro wrestling but lol.
 
jono;7195552 said:
powerman 5000;7194786 said:
Shane did more for ecw then HHH did for wwe. These are issues that newer wrestling fans won't understand.

You have to look at that in context though. What exactly was ECW before Shane Douglas? What was the WWE before HHH?

Douglas did a lot for a small, independent company that stayed small and independent. HHH helped keep the machine running another 15-20 years.

Being a global conglomerate compared to an indie is a moot point. The measure of success for any business is staying in the black & growing as a company and ECW did just that thanks in large part to Douglas during that time. Even Taz, Dreamer and RVD would attest to that let alone Heyman. Don't confuse Heyman's mismanagement of money and shrewd business down the line with the company's status at that point in time.

Sure it stayed small and independent but so what? they still were earning coins and the brand was becoming stronger and expanding wider thanks to Douglas being a draw for them among others. This was a period where characters like The Franchise helped ECW reinvent itself from rinky dinky Eastern Championship Wrestling days to the point that people like Vince McMahon and Dusty Rhodes now had to look at their product too. They were making noise and becoming a threat. They were pioneering shit that is now overused in pro wrestling but back then was unheard of in every way when it came to the west.

Hell it encouraged Vince to collab with them and fish for talent down there as well as book the 90's invasion. It became like an unofficial farm territory for the big leagues thanks in part to what people like Douglas did.The truth is that Douglas to ECW proved to be more profitable than HHH's Game era did to WWE. That was actually one of the least profitable eras in WWE history.
 
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