'nino'jacob
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j cole isn't anything special, he's overrated because he's a backpacker and his contemporaries are wayne & drake .period
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tompetrez3;3834969 said:[video=youtube;UMEtBdKCtn4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMEtBdKCtn4[/video]
Can someone post a song where J Cole reached the lyrical threshold of rhyming like ghostface killah did on windpipe? Check out the breath control, the cadenece, the agression. but those are the only the basic elements of catching wreck. when you break down the technical aspects of Ghostface verse he has alot of hard stressed consonants in his bars. The thing with consanants are that they tie your tongue and cause you to exhale more air. this is a difficult task rhyming over a track like this. i think windpipe is around 102 bpm. whenever ghost stressed a hard word or sound he had to deliver his next sound at 204 bpm to align with the track You cant just wake up one morning at 26 and decide you are going to be hip hop savior and have an ablilty like that. any vocal coach will tell you that you have to have rigid jaw construction and muscles to use your mouth as an instrument at that pace. ghostface verse does not have a set pattern at any point of the track. that means he defies the algorhythm of rza drum pattern. for the dumb niggas ghost face doesnt rap in the 4/4 he switched up his flow from 3/4 7/8 to 1/16 on this track alone. he can continue his verse for an infinite amount of timing measures to cover the spectrum of the drum pattern. does j cole have any songs like this?
yo he didn't mention nything about drake going gold in the first week either! wtf is up with him tonightDatNiggaB1;3842331 said:Shocked that Jay-Z wasn't mentioned here somewhere..............*re-reads agian, and again*
The Lonious Monk;3842017 said:You might want to read up on the early Wu-tang days. The way Rza talks, it was hard as hell to get them dudes in the studio serious enough for one take. lol
This topic fails for mentioning Ghost blacking out and not having this as the example:
[video=youtube;rpDWWro8o_g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpDWWro8o_g[/video]
That verse had everyone who might have been considering featuring Ghost on a track reconsidering.
buttuh_b;3842136 said:And still no one can post a video of a J. Cole verse that matches Ghost's that TS posted.
Yall can get mad but it's true.
iMpIoDez;3842389 said:I've....i've...i've never witnessed no shit like that before...wtf? I have to thank you for putting me on man, I fuking appreciate it
Ghost > Cole
The Lonious Monk;3844395 said:lol No prob. I swear I heard that song like 10 times before I even realized Cormega was in it. I always just shook my head and turned the shit off after Ghost's verse. It's like a disserve to put anything on after that.
Young-Ice;3844413 said:windpipe is a wack song
Young-Ice;3841841 said:Cole goes way deeper than Nicki and wayne
Young money the most shallow and pedantic roster out here
hell, even rick ross has made deeper songs than YM
idoitforhiphop10;3841847 said:cole is wayyy better than wayne and nicki
NothingButTheTruth;3845391 said:Bruh, Wayne is definitely better than Cole, and when he wants to, Wayne can be deep. At least as deep as a J.Cole.
[video=youtube;_0DTM6O2SDE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0DTM6O2SDE[/video]
[video=youtube;2Iex5BEXR2w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iex5BEXR2w[/video]
These 2 songs > J.Cole's entire catalog.