Sen. Bernie Sander Fillibuster 101 - Dude Has been Talking 4 Hours GOING IN...

[Mr.302]

I care more about the fact that Obama didn't fight...He fought for Unvirsal Healthcare because it was personal.(whatever) I have a question. How come He didn't handle this when the Dems had the house?

 

[blatin35]

first of its a 700 billion dollar tax plan 130 billion goes to extending rich ppl's benfeits for 2 yrs.

Obama wants to run on raising rich ppl's taxes in 2012. The tea partys wanted a permanent extension.

500 billion is for Middleclass tax cuts, another 100 billion is for social security tax reduction for ppl who make

under 100,000 a yr. then obama had the 50 billion dollar extention of his tax credit for education and child care.

its the best deal he can reach we just gonna argue about this again in 2 yrs chill out dude

plus obama got unemployment benefeits for 13 months and extension of clean energy tax credit.

So all this outrage over nothing?

 

[shootemwon]

I care more about the fact that Obama didn't fight...He fought for Unvirsal Healthcare because it was personal.(whatever) I have a question. How come He didn't handle this when the Dems had the house?

He didn't fight for Universal Healthcare.

 

[politicalthug202]

So all this outrage over nothing?

well one the house democrats are upset that rich ppl got the extension

and yes obama should have communicated it better,plus the 5million limit for the estate tax is a little

high,plus alot of these democrats are getting fired january 1st

 

[politicalthug202]

He didn't fight for Universal Healthcare.

95% of americans will be covered by 2018, the only americans who want be covered are illegal immigrants

and ppl who choose not buy insurance.

 

[shootemwon]

95% of americans will be covered by 2018, the only americans who want be covered are illegal immigrants
and ppl who choose not buy insurance.

Universal Shitty Insurance

Not Universal Care

 

[politicalthug202]

Universal Shitty Insurance

Not Universal Care

Im not understanding you the problem with insurance was not quality it was cost.

under obama plans the government gives ppl money through tax subsidys to limit ur healthcare

cost to a certain percentage of your income.

 

[shootemwon]

Im not understanding you the problem with insurance was not quality it was cost.
under obama plans the government gives ppl money through tax subsidys to limit ur healthcare
cost to a certain percentage of your income.

Without a public option we aren't containing cost much at all. And just cause you have insurance doesn't mean you won't pay and arm and a leg if you need major medical treatment cause the kind of plans individuals are gonna get from the private insurance companies are SHITTY.

 

[politicalthug202]

Without a public option we aren't containing cost much at all. And just cause you have insurance doesn't mean you won't pay and arm and a leg if you need major medical treatment cause the kind of plans individuals are gonna get from the private insurance companies are SHITTY.

first off profits from private insurance are not that bigcompared to most corporation

s its only like 6%. you could take the profit out of health care insurance ,and you would

not be able to give all americans health insurance for 7 days. plus the healthcare plans have to come through

the health care exchanges set up by the goverment which makes sure they have to provide a base line of benefeits

and minium of premiums and out of pocket cost basically all families of 4 under a 100,000 get there health care cost( procedures,premiums,medicine,visits)

limited to 10% of ur income. with tax breaks from the goverment.

the public option would have been nice,but only 2 million americans would have been elgible for it. obamas plan covers 30 million.

 

[shootemwon]

first off profits from private insurance are not that bigcompared to most corporation
s its only like 6%. you could take the profit out of health care insurance ,and you would
not be able to give all americans health insurance for 7 days. plus the healthcare plans have to come through
the health care exchanges set up by the goverment which makes sure they have to provide a base line of benefeits
and minium of premiums and out of pocket cost basically all families of 4 under a 100,000 get there health care cost( procedures,premiums,medicine,visits)
limited to 10% of ur income. with tax breaks from the goverment.

the public option would have been nice,but only 2 million americans would have been elgible for it. obamas plan covers 30 million.

you just made a great case for single player. too bad we have shitty obamacare instead.

 

[politicalthug202]

you just made a great case for single player. too bad we have shitty obamacare instead.

actually the only countries that have single payer is canada and the U.K and both

are stuggling with cost like The U.S and medicaid are. they are better off then us,but they have seriously problems.

Obamas plan is a lighter version of swedens health care. which basically just regulates insurance industries like utilty companies.

 

[shootemwon]

actually the only countries that have single payer is canada and the U.K and both

are stuggling with cost like The U.S and medicaid are. they are better off then us,but they have seriously problems.

So your point is that having a shitty healthcare system is cool because canada isn't perfect?