RUSS : "If 2Pac & Biggie Were Alive, Y’all Would Be Sleeping On Them."

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@5grand i honor the vast history of hip hop you can retain but you really are an idiot when it comes to some of your bum ass takes.

First off you said Biggie and Pac would be like Nas. Most of the current generation born outside NYC or born after 1995 doesn't respect Nas lol. Lonzo was calling him wack a few months ago. Nas also in the northeast doesn't even sell out arenas as a solo act in 2017 so people really do sleep on him. He came to my school in CT back in 09 and it was a capacity of like 1500 people.

Also as far as biggie he only had a few albums. As time went on if he was alive he may have fell off between partying and the fame. Shit reports were that he was going to leave diddy and we all know how bad boy artists were cursed after leaving diddy.

With Pac he could easily have been forgotten by the mid 2000's as the new wave came in as well. He could have easily been DMX status.

Big and Pac changed rap. But their legend and immorality in rap is due to them dying. Many legends and trail blazers that lived have been critisized or been slept on after the next wave came up.
 
Pac would've been instrumental in the revolution of the nation within a nation.

Biggie would be on Mr. C's couch with a bucket of chicken.
 
so why do people keep sayin "if" big and Pac were alive they would've set up this, this and this.....yet turn around and discredit Jay for handling his business from the jump (already owning his own label)....i dont see either BIG or Pac doin anything with the HKL beat that literally blew Jay up to the world and put him on this run he was next up anyway with the co-sign from BIG......Jay was comin one way or another....would he still be recording music now at 40+?...who knows but the business acumen and drive to be successful was there from the jump....IMO Big would've been more behind the scenes as well and would've blew up JM and Kim(Cease prolly would've been bigger than Bleek lmao), and made money away from music....both Jay and Big were hustlers so it boggles my mind for people to forecast his future based off the lives of other men that really didn't have anything to do with his success up to that point anyway

Pac would've prolly been a full fledged actor and activist by now....maybe even an exec but i dont see Pac doin the suit and tie thing and being corporate.....or could've been in and out of jail and still on some fuckboy shit runnin around whoppin on niggas wit Suge and DR.....who really knows wit him.....he was all of over the place at the time of his death
 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-10026510 said:
@5grand i honor the vast history of hip hop you can retain but you really are an idiot when it comes to some of your bum ass takes.

First off you said Biggie and Pac would be like Nas. Most of the current generation born outside NYC or born after 1995 doesn't respect Nas lol. Lonzo was calling him wack a few months ago. Nas also in the northeast doesn't even sell out arenas as a solo act in 2017 so people really do sleep on him. He came to my school in CT back in 09 and it was a capacity of like 1500 people.

Also as far as biggie he only had a few albums. As time went on if he was alive he may have fell off between partying and the fame. Shit reports were that he was going to leave diddy and we all know how bad boy artists were cursed after leaving diddy.

With Pac he could easily have been forgotten by the mid 2000's as the new wave came in as well. He could have easily been DMX status.

Big and Pac changed rap. But their legend and immorality in rap is due to them dying. Many legends and trail blazers that lived have been critisized or been slept on after the next wave came up.

2Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson in that casino. That act was a violation of the terms of his bail. If Pac hadn't got shot that night he would have been arrested for violating the terms of his bail.

Any way you look at it Pac would have gone back to jail.
 
thats what i dont understand if that shit aint run thru his mind . as much as he said he dont wanna go back to jail why put urself in that position
 
Trying to prove himself to suge which was retarded. Pac helped with alot of beatdowns over at Deathrow. Feeling himself and beatdown the wrong dude. Idc how much he screamed westside "california love""westside is the best side"or any of that bullshit, he's not from cali. He had no business dealing with gangs over there and other shit he knew nothing about
 
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5 Grand;c-10027356 said:
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-10026510 said:
@5grand i honor the vast history of hip hop you can retain but you really are an idiot when it comes to some of your bum ass takes.

First off you said Biggie and Pac would be like Nas. Most of the current generation born outside NYC or born after 1995 doesn't respect Nas lol. Lonzo was calling him wack a few months ago. Nas also in the northeast doesn't even sell out arenas as a solo act in 2017 so people really do sleep on him. He came to my school in CT back in 09 and it was a capacity of like 1500 people.

Also as far as biggie he only had a few albums. As time went on if he was alive he may have fell off between partying and the fame. Shit reports were that he was going to leave diddy and we all know how bad boy artists were cursed after leaving diddy.

With Pac he could easily have been forgotten by the mid 2000's as the new wave came in as well. He could have easily been DMX status.

Big and Pac changed rap. But their legend and immorality in rap is due to them dying. Many legends and trail blazers that lived have been critisized or been slept on after the next wave came up.

2Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson in that casino. That act was a violation of the terms of his bail. If Pac hadn't got shot that night he would have been arrested for violating the terms of his bail.

Any way you look at it Pac would have gone back to jail.

Which has nothing to do with my point that Pac would have been slept on after the next wave came through in the 2000's. Young niggas would have said he sucked. Eventually he would have been dmx status in the eyes of young niggas.
 
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14;c-10027868 said:
Which has nothing to do with my point that Pac would have been slept on after the next wave came through in the 2000's. Young niggas would have said he sucked. Eventually he would have been dmx status in the eyes of young niggas.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but 2Pac was at the height of his popularity when he died. Considering all his legal troubles its unlikely that he would have remained at the top.
 
Sion;c-10027939 said:
What Russ is saying has truth to it tho. Niggas will lie up and down all day but you can pull up threads where niggas said Drake and Kendrick were more relevant than Jay-Z, Eminem and Kanye West. Niggas used to say on here all the time the odds of Jay and Ye dropping a classic album were slim to none because "they're past their primes" and then 4:44 came out SMMFH.

If Jay-Z, NaS, Eminem, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, Prodigy, Kanye West, Wu-Tang, Cube, Dr.Dre, Snoop and others are susceptible to that type of criticism, it's ludicrous to say Big and Pac wouldn't be. This is where purists need to stfu and accept the truth.... Niggas used to say Rakim Allah and LL Cool J were the GOAT now in 2017 if you said LL was one of the best to do it and made a thread niggas would scoff at the idea. Y'all can bullshit but I can up threads.

So why u give me a nosign if u agree wit wat he said lol
 
Beta;c-10025152 said:
He's right

We would be saying they washed and treating them like we treat busta rhymes fat ass

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