Rick Ross is the best rapper alive

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genstasia;1460911 said:
What Odds? He was beefing with a megastar on his way down which is honestly an easy thing to do.. And him being a CO... i aint surprised ppl accepted him for that being fake is the new real... And Money is the only median....

Fake will never be the new real unless those that accept it are fake themselves. I fuks wit Ross but i lost alot of respect for him about lying about b'n a Co. I didnt care that he was one but just that he lied about it. But you seriously dont think that the main reason he's still around isnt becuz of his music?
 
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bmoreeast;1460914 said:
I see were your coming from but if he didnt make good music nobody would pay him anymind. Plus i think ppl take that Noriega line a little to literal. All rappers inflate their raps, hell im sure Nas never "snuck a uzi on the island". But in his interviews Ross can be over the top sometimes

Well of course the music has to be good first off. But for Ross him being a cop wasn't that big of a thing because you never believed him to be what he raps about. Really Ross? You got them pretty things flying across the Atlantic? Really Ross? You're at the white house with Big Meech? Ross has never tried to come across as anything but a show... It would be like finding out Robert Dinero was once a cop... You'd still go watch him play a gangsta roll in a movie because he's good at acting the part. Rick Ross is no different.
 
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Khaled and Puff are part of the Miami scene, and CMB when Wayne gets out is going to go back to Miami, The King is in Miami, wouldn't surprise me if Puff, Ross,CMB do alot of collaborating
 
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bmoreeast;1460914 said:
I see were your coming from but if he didnt make good music nobody would pay him anymind.

1.nigga music ain't great

2.he don't hav a many fans thats why he only go gold

3.his sales been down ever since the beef with 50 and his best albums came after the beef

4.some niggas just like 2 ride the nigga cause they r down with the 5-o like ross
 
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No , he should stay with khaled and continue with his current marketing and music career. if it aint broke dont fix it. Puffy isnt really great in marketing people except for himself. sigh. Puffy is using ross status as one of the people in the game to resurrect his career again. Puffy usually hop onto acts that are currently hot to have his name in the industry buzzing. that is why the people never grow old of puffy because he isnt marketing himself solely to have the audience grow tired of him; he markets the hot new commodity and latches himself unto others success.
 
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Ross fanbase are the normal types, they listen to music because it sounds good, not because they are trying to live a fantasy through some "black criminal dudes".

When you can tour the HBCU circuit and all the hood spots your fanbase is solidified, you have eliminated the wannabee/wigger element and you can cake-off with your people.

Of course you will always have little Trevor from Wyoming that thinks Rick Ross is a police officer or worked as a policeman, but weirdos like that are trend-jumpers, who are
more interested in the rap sheet than the rap record.
 
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charlie_danger;1460973 said:
No , he should stay with khaled and continue with his current marketing and music career. if it aint broke dont fix it. Puffy isnt really great in marketing people except for himself. sigh. Puffy is using ross status as one of the people in the game to resurrect his career again. Puffy usually hop onto acts that are currently hot to have his name in the industry buzzing. that is why the people never grow old of puffy because he isnt marketing himself solely to have the audience grow tired of him; he markets the hot new commodity and latches himself unto others success.

Hustler of the decade nominee?
 
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genstasia;1460954 said:
Obviously... But fake is the new real... most ppl arent real with themselves so therefore they relate and admire somebody else who was outed and still being accepted...

And this right here....this right here, is the mothaf*ck'n truth.

All the fakes and fassi's rejoice that a fraud could make it.

And they are the ones who make up Rick Rawses small fanbase.
 
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thecomebacklegend;1460972 said:
1.nigga music ain't great

2.he don't hav a many fans thats why he only go gold

3.his sales been down ever since the beef with 50 and his best albums came after the beef

4.some niggas just like 2 ride the nigga cause they r down with the 5-o like ross

1. It maybe just my opinion but he has some of the best music out

2. Going gold n this Climate is like going plat. look how long it took Drake to reach plat. and who's been bigger than him this past yr

3. His sales been down since b'n exposed as a liar i dont think Fif had anything to do wit it

4. Idk about other dudes but i just like his music
 
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thecomebacklegend;1460972 said:
1.nigga music ain't great

2.he don't hav a many fans thats why he only go gold

3.his sales been down ever since the beef with 50 and his best albums came after the beef

4.some niggas just like 2 ride the nigga cause they r down with the 5-o like ross

Do your research, or you will continue to sound ignorant.

1.) The music is great

2.) 425,000 fans at $10 a C.D. is 4 million and some change

3.) Rozay matched his sales from "Deeper than Rap", with "Teflon Don", do the research 425,000 (Soundscan reports drop tomorrow sho0uld be higher)

4.) Some people like to type the word "nigga" 100 times because they think it makes them sound real.
 
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bmoreeast;1461105 said:
1. It maybe just my opinion but he has some of the best music out

2. Going gold n this Climate is like going plat. look how long it took Drake to reach plat. and who's been bigger than him this past yr

3. His sales been down since b'n exposed as a liar i dont think Fif had anything to do wit it

4. Idk about other dudes but i just like his music

1.how about.............no

2.jayz is still going plat in this climate.ross music is not good enough 2 go plat

3.his sales been down since 50 release them pics cause trick had them pics also

4.would u buy a cop album if he arrested u but make good music?fuck outta here
 
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genstasia;1461115 said:
Ross has one of the biggest budgets at Def Jam so he better go gold atleast....

I always fig most of his videos were personally financed Like Bmf all those are usually done by Spliff Tv. But i wouldnt doubt that he has the biggest budget b'n as i dont see them ever promoting anyone else
 
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genstasia;1460642 said:
Rap Beef dont work because it's really not competitive anymore and i kinda blame the south for this... Thats why it dont work because rap skills are at the bare minimum of winning a beef and ppl always gonna bring up "Well who's getting more money?" or "Such and such mad becaus they are hotter than them" or even down to "Why are they picking on them".... Thats why these artist are weak rap wise because before at any good moment u could be dissed and u would have to come back so ya bars would have to be up.... That no longer matters because niggas want them hot pockets....

Yeah right how can you blame the south for that when in the most public rap war or beef ever there were more antics than music and that was between a West Coast Rapper and New York Rapper, or if you wanna be truthful 2 New York born rappers? How can you blame the south for that when Ross clearly made better music than 50 in the beef that contained a New York rapper vs a Southern Rapper?
 
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thecomebacklegend;1461181 said:
1.how about.............no

2.jayz is still going plat in this climate.ross music is not good enough 2 go plat

3.his sales been down since 50 release them pics cause trick had them pics also

4.would u buy a cop album if he arrested u but make good music?fuck outta here

Jay z was going Multi plat at one time now he's barely going plat

Your giving Fif to much credit he aint even selling as much as Ross

Since when did Co's put u n the jail. They arent cops, they have absolutly no power outside of the jail. Police and Co's are totally different
 
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genstasia;1461205 said:
That Super High video wasnt funded by Ross.... Maybe BMF because that was moreso a street single... Plus he was getting the most promotion

Naw hell no i know Super High wasnt. I think they prob pay for maybe two videos per album n he'll put out the rest. U can tell the ones they pay for and the ones he do.
 
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bmoreeast;1461183 said:
I always fig most of his videos were personally financed Like Bmf all those are usually done by Spliff Tv. But i wouldnt doubt that he has the biggest budget b'n as i dont see them ever promoting anyone else

Spiff does all the viral videos, he didnt do "Aston Martin Music" or "Super High", but they were not high-priced vids and either was "BMF", nothing elaborate like "Waterfalls".

In terms of budget and recoup remember that Rick Ross cleared $5 million on the Forbes list last year with an album that didnt go Gold.

Mathematics.
 
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genstasia;1461217 said:
Blame the south for not really being competitive... NY'ers are competitive by nature and this is not even talking about rap... I'm talking about persona...

That makes little to no sense and is basically a stereotype which will never be the truth. How can the south not be competitive by nature when you look at college football on Saturday's and the overwhelming majority of good players and teams come from the south. Think about how many of the championship teams have been from the south with the majority of the players from the South in the last 10 years. Since 2000, 7 of 10 NCAA Football champs have been from the south. How can you prove that New Yorker's are more competitive by nature? I think your statement reflects what's really wrong with the game. Cats can just say anything. You don't have to prove anything.
 
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