RETIRED LAPD OFFICER SAYS DIDDY PAID GANG MEMBERS TO KILL TUPAC SHAKUR...

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It still fucks with my Mind that the most Gangsta and Bout it member of Badboy is Diddy he grew up in that life and is technically the last man standing and still rolling along no fucks given...

Weird Fucking World...
 
Soloman_The_Wise;9004922 said:
It still fucks with my Mind that the most Gangsta and Bout it member of Badboy is Diddy he grew up in that life and is technically the last man standing and still rolling along no fucks given...

Weird Fucking World...

I'm not saying he isn't the most gangster... But simply surviving doesn't automatically make you the most gangster. It Makes you guy with the most money, Able to stay above the fray.

You don't say the president is the best at battle during a war with iraq or some shit. He ain't out there fighting, he just calling the shots while all the soldiers do the work. That doesn't make him a hero. Makes him a shot caller.

Diddy did survive, yes, but he had biggie out here rolling with lil cease and droc, while he himself was with top military personnel. That ain't gangsta.

He met with those crips, allegedly,, and told em to kill pac. Then he shitted on them with the payment, allegedly, and they were no longer protecting when biggie got shot... That ain't gangsta.

Survival solely doesnt make you a man of principle and honor. Again, maybe my understanding of situation is wrong. Maybe diddy is gangsta. But i need to hear more of the story... Cause based on what we know. Hee just a nigga who had all the money, and did the type moves that anyone with lots of loot would do. But he wasn't out there like vito corleone, or tony soprano, or marlo from the wire. Every situation we know about was him using his money to get out of shit or start shit, i.e. The Shyne situation.

I never heard of him doing some master p type shit, which would qualify as gangsta. I never heard of him doing j Prince type shit. That's gangsta.

Edited to add: let me be clear. I'm not hating or saying he a bitch or anything. I'm just saying gangsta as you're using it is a term of honor and respect. Not as dumb ignorant gangster like o dogg shooting grocery store clerk. And nothing diddy has done makes me think he that.
 
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b1grobtheking;8751366 said:
all this stuff is deeper than rap music....i think the government wanted to get pac but when pac and them jumped orlando, that made the street stuff jump off 1st ,before the feds could do what they wanted if pac didnt get killed that night,the fight probably would of sent him back to jail and suge too.then you got reggie wright jr on the murder rap documentary saying they had control of pac's lawyer so they controlled his case and money.i think suge's plan was to get paid off pac for 2-3 years then let him go back to jail.everybody had a plan on pac,he just didnt see it.suge showed his true colors when it came out about all the money he was stealing from pac and he let all them makaveli bootlegs get out in 97 and 98 because he didnt want pac's mom to get all that money....1 thing i learned growing up in the streets is that folks mirror you to use you.they act and talk like they love you but when youre not around they plot and plan on you...pac never learned there is no love in the streets and he was mixing too much street stuff with his reality when he should of just stuck to the music,i was about 15 yrs old when all this stuff was going on.me and my niggas was looking like wtf these niggas doing.we taking chances all the time with our life and freedom and these rich niggas gang banging,fighting and shooting...stuff we started doing in 1992.we would of killed the pope to get in that spot...shit if he faked his death,i innerstand why....money,power,greed,lies,deception,ego,and gangs fucked all this up.i think the real reason pac hit orlando was because one time pac was in l.a. at a gas station and he was confronted by some crips and 1 of them sucker punched him,he grabbed some scissors and chased them. that was in a interview from vibe writer named dream hampton.look at the video on you tube when pac is talking outside the courtroom after he got 15 days for beating up the hughes brothers on spice 1 video shoot. i remember watching the interview around 93 or 94 smoking a blunt and always remembered his eye was swollen..so that fight was deeper for pac ...pac fucked up bye riding for some niggas who didnt give a fuck about him..pac was a great rapper,but he should of never crossed the gang line without thinking about the retaliation.streets have different rules.ask yourself this question????if your favorite rapper,athlete or movie star jumped on you,would you let it slide or ride on him????different folks do different shit.self preservation is rule 1.if youve been shooting and fighting all your life ,hitting one of these dudes is power in the streets and puts fear into everybody when they see you or hear your name.to keep it 1000 i would of shot all them niggas.not trying to be tuff just standing up like a man supposed to. niggas jump me,im not bout to wait and fight them 1 by 1 when i see them,when i see them its on.and nope im not going to jail because im banging out with the cops too..when you make a decision,gotta make sure you ready to do it to the end.just my thoughts,im out

You heard of paragraphs? They make reading easier.
 
smp4life;9006305 said:
b1grobtheking;8751366 said:
all this stuff is deeper than rap music....i think the government wanted to get pac but when pac and them jumped orlando, that made the street stuff jump off 1st ,before the feds could do what they wanted if pac didnt get killed that night,the fight probably would of sent him back to jail and suge too.then you got reggie wright jr on the murder rap documentary saying they had control of pac's lawyer so they controlled his case and money.i think suge's plan was to get paid off pac for 2-3 years then let him go back to jail.everybody had a plan on pac,he just didnt see it.suge showed his true colors when it came out about all the money he was stealing from pac and he let all them makaveli bootlegs get out in 97 and 98 because he didnt want pac's mom to get all that money....1 thing i learned growing up in the streets is that folks mirror you to use you.they act and talk like they love you but when youre not around they plot and plan on you...pac never learned there is no love in the streets and he was mixing too much street stuff with his reality when he should of just stuck to the music,i was about 15 yrs old when all this stuff was going on.me and my niggas was looking like wtf these niggas doing.we taking chances all the time with our life and freedom and these rich niggas gang banging,fighting and shooting...stuff we started doing in 1992.we would of killed the pope to get in that spot...shit if he faked his death,i innerstand why....money,power,greed,lies,deception,ego,and gangs fucked all this up.i think the real reason pac hit orlando was because one time pac was in l.a. at a gas station and he was confronted by some crips and 1 of them sucker punched him,he grabbed some scissors and chased them. that was in a interview from vibe writer named dream hampton.look at the video on you tube when pac is talking outside the courtroom after he got 15 days for beating up the hughes brothers on spice 1 video shoot. i remember watching the interview around 93 or 94 smoking a blunt and always remembered his eye was swollen..so that fight was deeper for pac ...pac fucked up bye riding for some niggas who didnt give a fuck about him..pac was a great rapper,but he should of never crossed the gang line without thinking about the retaliation.streets have different rules.ask yourself this question????if your favorite rapper,athlete or movie star jumped on you,would you let it slide or ride on him????different folks do different shit.self preservation is rule 1.if youve been shooting and fighting all your life ,hitting one of these dudes is power in the streets and puts fear into everybody when they see you or hear your name.to keep it 1000 i would of shot all them niggas.not trying to be tuff just standing up like a man supposed to. niggas jump me,im not bout to wait and fight them 1 by 1 when i see them,when i see them its on.and nope im not going to jail because im banging out with the cops too..when you make a decision,gotta make sure you ready to do it to the end.just my thoughts,im out

You heard of paragraphs? They make reading easier.

No need for Bill Burr when u got IC niggas behind da keyboard.

 
SheerExcellence;9006304 said:
Soloman_The_Wise;9004922 said:
It still fucks with my Mind that the most Gangsta and Bout it member of Badboy is Diddy he grew up in that life and is technically the last man standing and still rolling along no fucks given...

Weird Fucking World...

I'm not saying he isn't the most gangster... But simply surviving doesn't automatically make you the most gangster. It Makes you guy with the most money, Able to stay above the fray.

You don't say the president is the best at battle during a war with iraq or some shit. He ain't out there fighting, he just calling the shots while all the soldiers do the work. That doesn't make him a hero. Makes him a shot caller.

Diddy did survive, yes, but he had biggie out here rolling with lil cease and droc, while he himself was with top military personnel. That ain't gangsta.

He met with those crips, allegedly,, and told em to kill pac. Then he shitted on them with the payment, allegedly, and they were no longer protecting when biggie got shot... That ain't gangsta.

Survival solely doesnt make you a man of principle and honor. Again, maybe my understanding of situation is wrong. Maybe diddy is gangsta. But i need to hear more of the story... Cause based on what we know. Hee just a nigga who had all the money, and did the type moves that anyone with lots of loot would do. But he wasn't out there like vito corleone, or tony soprano, or marlo from the wire. Every situation we know about was him using his money to get out of shit or start shit, i.e. The Shyne situation.

I never heard of him doing some master p type shit, which would qualify as gangsta. I never heard of him doing j Prince type shit. That's gangsta.

Edited to add: let me be clear. I'm not hating or saying he a bitch or anything. I'm just saying gangsta as you're using it is a term of honor and respect. Not as dumb ignorant gangster like o dogg shooting grocery store clerk. And nothing diddy has done makes me think he that.

A couple of things Fam because for the most part I agree with what you had to say but, when I say Gangsta I am not talking about just foot soldiers as they are the low end of the spectrum and the most abundant portion of it while a shot caller is what every foot soldier aspires to reach and is the embodiment of a true Gangster. The Shyne situation is a great example because from all accounts it has Diddy busting caps if just in the air and Shyne eating the charges how is that not Gangster. He made that man take the case and Shyne came out after some on again off again love hate shit good with Diddy.

Now do not take my statement of Gangsta as me cosigning Diddy's moves or even respecting most of that shit actually in contrast most of what he has gotten away with is personally repugnant on many levels. He has made a career off of of snake moves and sacrifices but he has been untouched for all this grimey shit he has been a part of. I am just saying he grew up under old school gangsters that most of the time had their underlings making moves and Diddy lives the closest to that amongst his label full of Kats aspiring to get to his spot in the game while rapping about Diddy's real circles lives...
 
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