Reports Of Mass Shooting In Orlando Night Club, Holding Hostages

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Qiv_Owan;9086673 said:
50 dead

They saying 'the worst terror attack since 9/11"

I quit

So how they know it was terrorism and not some gay bashing local...maybe his race plays a factor in the label

If he was white it wouldve been "crazed gunman"

9/11 is the blueprint for terror attacks now, 'Post 9/11' is the new measurement of time

Columbine is the Tesla to 9/11's Thomas edison. At least in the way these events were covered. Columbine was the first event that I remember ever knowing every single thing about because of how the news went ham on it.
 
Los216;9086698 said:
Ar's can only hold 36 in a clip. A pistol is an extra 16. At most he had 54 bullets. There's video of him shooting it out with police outside of the club. All reports are saying he killed all 50 and injured 53.

FBI already said that there were no bombs or any vest. They didn't say anything about him having a bunch of ammunition either.

It's simply not possible for him to kill 50 people with less than 50 bullets at his disposal.

They said that spot had more people then it was supposed to. I wonder if some of those people died from a stampede.
 
every mass shooting

"something fishy is going on"

"omg false flag attack"

"the govt did it"

every time? really? every-fuckin-time?

there has to be something wrong w ppl who always think it's some sort of staged event for political gain

shit is mind blowing
 
Los216;9086698 said:
Ar's can only hold 36 in a clip. A pistol is an extra 16. At most he had 54 bullets. There's video of him shooting it out with police outside of the club. All reports are saying he killed all 50 and injured 53.

FBI already said that there were no bombs or any vest. They didn't say anything about him having a bunch of ammunition either.

It's simply not possible for him to kill 50 people with less than 50 bullets at his disposal.

Wtf??? Nigga if you gonna try that conspiracy mess u gotta do better than that, common sense would tell u extra clips
 
Breezy_Kilroy;9086711 said:
CracceR;9086676 said:
Karl.;9086657 said:
CracceR;9086645 said:
you need some kind of ideology to get the terrorist label i think

them dudes from the boston marathon shit looked white but they are still labeled terrorists

I wouldn't say they were white.

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they look kinda jewy on some howard stern ish

or could be south italian

i would label them as white

I agree they could pass as white. They look just like John Turturro and he's Italian

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Southern Italians are mixed with Arab and Moor and their ancestors are Greek (which are cousins of Persians). Afghani's are actually Persian.
 
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Los216;9086758 said:
smp4life;9086733 said:
Los216;9086596 said:
On CNN they're calling him an ISIS sympathizer. What the fuck does that mean?

It means he said or posted things in support of ISIS? Use your brain.

That doesn't mean shit though. Sympathizing with some of the people killed and their families because they were gay doesn't make you gay does it? They're trying to find motives when one doesn't clearly exist.

Apples and oranges. If you sympathize with ISIS and commit 50 murders of course that is going to be brought up as a motive. To use your example, if one sympathizes with the gay victims of this massacre, and then goes to a mosque and murders 50 people damn straight that's going to be brought up as the motive.
 
Los216;9086698 said:
Ar's can only hold 36 in a clip. A pistol is an extra 16. At most he had 54 bullets. There's video of him shooting it out with police outside of the club. All reports are saying he killed all 50 and injured 53.

FBI already said that there were no bombs or any vest. They didn't say anything about him having a bunch of ammunition either.

It's simply not possible for him to kill 50 people with less than 50 bullets at his disposal.

they were in there sharing bullets..
 
5th Letter;9086762 said:
zzombie;9086735 said:
5th Letter;9086721 said:
zzombie;9086704 said:
5th Letter;9086688 said:
That dude is white and crackas are focusing on his religion to deflect.

deflect my ass this is another example of insane Muslim killing people

You're not realizing/or don't care about the obvious agenda.

stop the conspiracy shit not everything is a secret plan or agenda it's not like islamic terrorist have not clearly stated that their goals are to kill innocent americans

So you're naive then? You don't find it odd that a white guy who happens to be Muslim is immediately linked to a Muslim terrorist organization? And is described as Muslim while they downplay his race? This shooter was a suspected white supremacist who had an agenda against gays, but that's not the angle the media is using. They're using the terrorist Muslim angle. The point is every Muslim is not out to kill Americans, why not just report the news rather than add an agenda to the shit? And niggas like you fall for it. Last year Dylan Roof shot up a church and the media refused to attach any organizations to him and refused to label him a terrorist. They claimed it was an attack on religion. So why couldn't this shooting be an attack on homosexuality? You see how the media works?

he looks like the average middle eastern guy he's certainly not the average white guy they downplay he race because most likely his religion played a greater motivational role in this shooting. There is no agenda you fucking idiot this was not just an attack on faggots because the guy claimed loyalty to the leader of isis.

if a muslim no matter he race attacks gay based on his religions beliefs then it's an islamic motivated attack
 
smp4life;9086715 said:
Preach2Teach;9086400 said:
Could this be another false flag? I wanna see the bodies or some CCTV footage, don't just show me a bunch of cops and paramedics outside the club.

take off the tinfoil hat brah

Nah you need to put on your tinfoil hat man, there is a lot of evidence on youtube that shows the way they do these false flags, this shit only happened last night and now the shooters mum and dad is out here already talking shit? how about the video of one of the parents from sandy hook, the dad lost his little girl then is seen smiling on camera when he is unaware he is being filmed, then when the interview starts he is acting all sad and shit, there is much more evidence out there, I am not asking you to believe me but at the very least you need to start questioning EVERYTHING.
 
I'm not a big anti-gun guy but AR's or any other high powered guns shouldnt be accessible for the public. I see no point in one being owned. Only for those who like to shoot at targets or gun collectors.

A handgun is perfect for home/self-defense, why is anything larger necessary?

I'm sure all the men who had their meetings about gun rights didn't expect guns to reach this level of technology. That idea is outdated, it's truly time to change things around and fix what can and cannot owned in the gun world.

These guns used are all legally owned, be it by the shooters or close friends and family.

In a evolving world, laws need to evolve w them.
 
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not_osirus_jenkins;9086776 said:
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_Lefty;9086316 said:
zzombie;9086314 said:
_Lefty;9086273 said:
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dalyricalbandit;9086230 said:
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dalyricalbandit;9086198 said:
Damn Heard massacre at gay club in Florida and automatically thought he be a republican terrorist

Nigga when was the last time we had a republican terrorist??? fuck is wrong with you niggas

The bush administration was full of them

Stop being an idiot there is a huge distinction between terrorism vs unintentionally killing innocent people in a declared war.

Yea, paperwork.

NO motive and end goal.

The American military kills innocents people by accident terrorist kill innocent people on purpose

Not really givin a fuck about the innocent people and intentionally killing innocent people to further your cause still ends up as dead innocent people.

What mission was accomplished when Obama put a stop to the most recent "war"

I am explaining to you the distinction between terrorism and unintentional war death if you are too fucking stubborn to see the moral difference then that's on you and lol at america not caring about the innocent people. If america really gave no fucks about killing innocents the entire country of Iraq and Afghanistan would be emptied of people because the american military possess that capability.

INSTEAD america spent billions of dollars trying to rebuild those nation.

terrorism is a direct result of war. Battles happen everywhere. Americans just like to bitch when the people bring the war on this soil. In war you take advantage of a situation you have been presented with. Our drone strikes kill children by accident he shot up the club on purpose. The only reason why america tried to rebuild those countries is so they could have a hand in and control. And i know this because i would have fone it as well. For someone that claims to have intelligence your views surprise me. There are consequences for every action.

terrorism is the use of violence to attain political goals it's not a result of war it is a tactic of war @ the bold That's what make terrorism different from open warfare, that's the distinction between the two. There is no moral equivalency between the tactics of the american military and the tactics of terrorist. If america rebuilt Iraq to keep control of it we never would have pulled our troops out doing so would have made no sense ESPECIALLY since right up until we left there was still recent insurgent activity. America has still has troops in japan and Germany but america does not control those nations.

america rebuilds and helps the nations it wins wars against because doing so in the long runs is beneficial for both parties but it's not done to maintain military or economic control of these nations. @ the bold That's what makes terrorism different from open warfare, that's the distinction between the two. There is no moral equivalency between the tactics of the american military and the tactics of terrorist

Lmao. America the great. You goddamn sure are a white republican. I had 3 older brothers and 1 younger in the military. That shit is FALSE and tats FACT. And there are no morals. Morality is subjective.

America is a great nation and all great nations do evil you just don't have any proof to back the claims in your previous post. I am not a white republican . I am a black jamaican, unlike the rest of you i can look at the issues at hand under the light of reason without the hatred for america clouding my brain.

I don't believe in subjective morality and unlike you i have principles, values, ethnics and things of that nature
 
zzombie;9086794 said:
5th Letter;9086762 said:
zzombie;9086735 said:
5th Letter;9086721 said:
zzombie;9086704 said:
5th Letter;9086688 said:
That dude is white and crackas are focusing on his religion to deflect.

deflect my ass this is another example of insane Muslim killing people

You're not realizing/or don't care about the obvious agenda.

stop the conspiracy shit not everything is a secret plan or agenda it's not like islamic terrorist have not clearly stated that their goals are to kill innocent americans

So you're naive then? You don't find it odd that a white guy who happens to be Muslim is immediately linked to a Muslim terrorist organization? And is described as Muslim while they downplay his race? This shooter was a suspected white supremacist who had an agenda against gays, but that's not the angle the media is using. They're using the terrorist Muslim angle. The point is every Muslim is not out to kill Americans, why not just report the news rather than add an agenda to the shit? And niggas like you fall for it. Last year Dylan Roof shot up a church and the media refused to attach any organizations to him and refused to label him a terrorist. They claimed it was an attack on religion. So why couldn't this shooting be an attack on homosexuality? You see how the media works?

he looks like the average middle eastern guy he's certainly not the average white guy they downplay he race because most likely his religion played a greater motivational role in this shooting. There is no agenda you fucking idiot this was not just an attack on faggots because the guy claimed loyalty to the leader of isis.

if a muslim no matter he race attacks gay based on his religions beliefs then it's an islamic motivated attack

Watch your mouth.

Anyway, again you're being naive. According to the US government he's considered white. Him being of middle eastern descent doesn't make him not white. I just gave you an example of how the media operates depending on (ironically) race. Muslim guy shoots up a club, and they say it's an Islamic terrorist attack. A white christian man shoots up a public place and they're not mentioning his religion nor are they speculating on his organizational ties. That's the agenda. But you are conditioned though.
 
I'd lend more credence to real events being shaped and molded how "they"(still don't know who they are) see fit vs events totally scripted out of thin air. I think they're prepared to use these events to push agendas more than we'd like to think. I mean, if they really wanted to do some false flag shit, don't ya'll think they'd get a dude that has isis shit all over his crib and a stockpile of weapons vs taking small details and making them bigger than they should be in the grand scheme. I know the government be on some bullshit, but every single thing that happens ain't some attempt to push an agenda and shape the world to their liking. The powers that be don't want donald trump in the white house. You think they'd do this dumb right now to help him, because guess what? this helps his cause.

There's no such thing as being too aware, but there's a such thing as altering reality to fit what you want it to. If they wanted us to hate Isis, they would make it easier than a lot of the ambiguity that has been presented easier than 1 dude in a gay club I'll tell you that, this is fuckin america, as easy as it is to get guns, they woulda been had 5 gualas gualas down for the cause hit an nfl game by now if they really wanted to move the Richter scale on making america hate radical Muslims. Them people couldn't even get in a "terrorists" iphone. I don't go for everything.
 
5th Letter;9086816 said:
zzombie;9086794 said:
5th Letter;9086762 said:
zzombie;9086735 said:
5th Letter;9086721 said:
zzombie;9086704 said:
5th Letter;9086688 said:
That dude is white and crackas are focusing on his religion to deflect.

deflect my ass this is another example of insane Muslim killing people

You're not realizing/or don't care about the obvious agenda.

stop the conspiracy shit not everything is a secret plan or agenda it's not like islamic terrorist have not clearly stated that their goals are to kill innocent americans

So you're naive then? You don't find it odd that a white guy who happens to be Muslim is immediately linked to a Muslim terrorist organization? And is described as Muslim while they downplay his race? This shooter was a suspected white supremacist who had an agenda against gays, but that's not the angle the media is using. They're using the terrorist Muslim angle. The point is every Muslim is not out to kill Americans, why not just report the news rather than add an agenda to the shit? And niggas like you fall for it. Last year Dylan Roof shot up a church and the media refused to attach any organizations to him and refused to label him a terrorist. They claimed it was an attack on religion. So why couldn't this shooting be an attack on homosexuality? You see how the media works?

he looks like the average middle eastern guy he's certainly not the average white guy they downplay he race because most likely his religion played a greater motivational role in this shooting. There is no agenda you fucking idiot this was not just an attack on faggots because the guy claimed loyalty to the leader of isis.

if a muslim no matter he race attacks gay based on his religions beliefs then it's an islamic motivated attack

Watch your mouth.

Anyway, again you're being naive. According to the US government he's considered white. Him being of middle eastern descent doesn't make him not white. I just gave you an example of how the media operates depending on (ironically) race. Muslim guy shoots up a club, and they say it's an Islamic terrorist attack. A white christian man shoots up a public place and they're not mentioning his religion nor are they speculating on his organizational ties. That's the agenda. But you are conditioned though.

shut your mouth

it wasn't race that motivated this attack you fucking numskull so there is no impetuous for the media to mention his race and there are cases of the government labeling people that are clearly non-white as being white so your argument on that front is bullshit.
 

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