Religious End Time prophecy is actually Reptilian End Game blueprint

[waterproof]

like i said they do reveal the TRUTH regarding what early christians believed and practiced... u can't deny that fool.

there is only ONE TRUTH, like i said your spirit attracts the wicked. Back to my studies SHALOM

 

[waterproof]

even the ancient egyptians practiced a similar christanity which is contained in the nag hammadi scriptures... They didn't practice your roman catholic version.

oh yeah for the last time, i am hebrew from the tribe of yahudah and the house of jacob!!

 

[beenwize]

I hardly believe that, there is millions that are coptic christians in egypt and ethiopia that split from the Roman Church because they dont celebrate the pagan holidays and follows the Old Testament Laws and sabbath.

But even so what that got to do with anything there is a million devil worshippers

Coptic & Gnostic christanity was a very early form of Christanity which even the Ancient Egyptians practiced... And there are millions in Egypt & Ethiopia alone becuz they RESEARCHED well enough in history to know that this was one of the most followed forms of Christanity in the 1st & 2nd centuries and later SUPPRESSED by the Romans... You live in America and are only influenced by mainstream religious books forced on you by the enemy. And coptic & gnostic Christians follow Jesus/Yeshua becuz they say that his true teachings were not of the God of the Old Testament but of a Supreme God in their belief. There are still millions more all over the world that follow this form of Christanity and are leaving mainstream Christainity for this form.

 

[judahxulu]

Coptic & Gnostic christanity was a very early form of Christanity which even the Ancient Egyptians practiced... And there are millions in Egypt & Ethiopia alone becuz they RESEARCHED well enough in history to know that this was one of the most followed forms of Christanity in the 1st & 2nd centuries and later SUPPRESSED by the Romans... You live in America and are only influenced by mainstream religious books forced on you by the enemy. And coptic & gnostic Christians follow Jesus/Yeshua becuz they say that his true teachings were not of the God of the Old Testament but of a Supreme God in their belief. There are still millions more all over the world that follow this form of Christanity and are leaving mainstream Christainity for this form.

before there was coptic and gnostic christianity there were the ebionites. they were everything christianity pretends to be...

"EBIONITES

Hb: ebion: poor. Hb: ebionim: the poor.

A heretical sect that appeared in early Christianity, and which some Muslims claimed to be true Christians. In addition to following Jesus, they also taught the observance of the Jewish Law (with some variations). The first mention is to be found in some manuscripts of Ignatius' letter to the Philadelphians mentions "Ebionite", but was thought to be a later addition (other versions of the letter thought to be more reliable do not have them):

if any one says there is one God, and also confesses Christ Jesus, but thinks the Lord to be a mere man, and not the only-begotten God, and Wisdom, and the Word of God, and deems Him to consist merely of a soul and body, such an one is a serpent, that preaches deceit and error for the destruction of men. And such a man is poor in understanding, even as by name he is an Ebionite.

Its origin is thus obscure and most scholars date them to the late second century. It was erroneously said by early Christian writers that the sect was founded by a certain Ebion. The early accounts about them were subject to much debate.

Most of the features of Ebionite doctrine were anticipated in the teachings of the earlier Qumran sect, as revealed in the Dead Sea Scrolls. They believed in one God and taught that Jesus was the Messiah and was the true "prophet" mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:15. They rejected the Virgin Birth of Jesus, instead holding that he was the natural son of Joseph and Mary. The Ebionites believed Jesus became the Messiah because he obeyed the Jewish Law. They themselves faithfully followed the Law, although they removed what they regarded as interpolations in order to uphold their teachings, which included vegetarianism, holy poverty, ritual ablutions, and the rejection of animal sacrifices. The Ebionites also held Jerusalem in great veneration. (Encyclopaedia Britannica Online) "

http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/E/ebionites.html

 

[beenwize]

before there was coptic and gnostic christianity there were the ebionites. they were everything christianity pretends to be...

"EBIONITES

Hb: ebion: poor. Hb: ebionim: the poor.

A heretical sect that appeared in early Christianity, and which some Muslims claimed to be true Christians. In addition to following Jesus, they also taught the observance of the Jewish Law (with some variations). The first mention is to be found in some manuscripts of Ignatius' letter to the Philadelphians mentions "Ebionite", but was thought to be a later addition (other versions of the letter thought to be more reliable do not have them):

if any one says there is one God, and also confesses Christ Jesus, but thinks the Lord to be a mere man, and not the only-begotten God, and Wisdom, and the Word of God, and deems Him to consist merely of a soul and body, such an one is a serpent, that preaches deceit and error for the destruction of men. And such a man is poor in understanding, even as by name he is an Ebionite.

Its origin is thus obscure and most scholars date them to the late second century. It was erroneously said by early Christian writers that the sect was founded by a certain Ebion. The early accounts about them were subject to much debate.

Most of the features of Ebionite doctrine were anticipated in the teachings of the earlier Qumran sect, as revealed in the Dead Sea Scrolls. They believed in one God and taught that Jesus was the Messiah and was the true "prophet" mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:15. They rejected the Virgin Birth of Jesus, instead holding that he was the natural son of Joseph and Mary. The Ebionites believed Jesus became the Messiah because he obeyed the Jewish Law. They themselves faithfully followed the Law, although they removed what they regarded as interpolations in order to uphold their teachings, which included vegetarianism, holy poverty, ritual ablutions, and the rejection of animal sacrifices. The Ebionites also held Jerusalem in great veneration. (Encyclopaedia Britannica Online) "

http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/E/ebionites.html

Is any of their scripture around today like the Nag Hammadi gospels found in 1945?

 

[judahxulu]

Is any of their scripture around today like the Nag Hammadi gospels found in 1945?

yeah. its called the tanach. the same stuff yeshua read is what they read. and im disturbed that you keep referring to the nag hammadi library as if all the books were meant to be put together to reflect a unified viewpoint. thats not the case. i read it. you have to take that thing codex by codex. also one must keep in mind that they were translated into coptic from koine greek meaning there is a basic incompatability between some of the concepts in it and the seminal hebrew texts. an example of this would be the inclusion of sopia in a lot of the n.h. treatises which is a non no and spurious being that sophia is a greek goddess and the greeks were at odds with the hebrews

 

[beenwize]

yeah. its called the tanach. the same stuff yeshua read is what they read. and im disturbed that you keep referring to the nag hammadi library as if all the books were meant to be put together to reflect a unified viewpoint. thats not the case. i read it. you have to take that thing codex by codex. also one must keep in mind that they were translated into coptic from koine greek meaning there is a basic incompatability between some of the concepts in it and the seminal hebrew texts. an example of this would be the inclusion of sopia in a lot of the n.h. treatises which is a non no and spurious being that sophia is a greek goddess and the greeks were at odds with the hebrews

from what i researched (can't confirm if it's true) the early gnostic christians believed Yeshua followed the law only to fulfill the covenant they made and if he didn't they wouldn't had recieved his message... and they say he taught a different doctrine than that of the old testament and didn't refer to the God of the Old Testament in his teachings. These scriptures are very interesting in the fact that those this practiced this form of Christianity were massacred by the Romans in the Inquisition & Crusades.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/story/pagels.html

Other sayings in this collection criticize common Christian beliefs, such as the virgin birth or the bodily resurrection, as naïve misunderstandings. Bound together with these gospels is the Apocryphon (literally, "secret book") of John, which opens with an offer to reveal "the mysteries [and the] things hidden in silence" which Jesus taught to his disciple John.

Muhammad 'Alí later admitted that some of the texts were lost--burned up or thrown away. But what remains is astonishing: some fifty-two texts from the early centuries of the Christian era--including a collection of early Christian gospels, previously unknown. Besides the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Philip, the find included the Gospel of Truth and the Gospel to the Egyptians, which identifies itself as "the [sacred book] of the Great Invisible [Spirit]." Another group of texts consists of writings attributed to Jesus' followers, such as the Secret Book of James, the Apocalypse of Paul, the Letter of Peter to Philip, and the Apocalypse of Peter.

What Muhammad 'Alí discovered at Nag Hammadi, it soon became clear, were Coptic translations, made about 1,500 years ago, of still more ancient manuscripts. The originals themselves had been written in Greek, the language of the New Testament: as Doresse, Puech, and Quispel had recognized, part of one of them had been discovered by archeologists about fifty years earlier, when they found a few fragments of the original Greek version of the Gospel of Thomas.

About the dating of the manuscripts themselves there is little debate. Examination of the datable papyrus used to thicken the leather bindings, and of the Coptic script, place them c. A.D. 350-400. But scholars sharply disagree about the dating of the original texts. Some of them can hardly be later than c. A.D. 120-150, since Irenaeus, the orthodox Bishop of Lyons, writing C. 180, declares that heretics "boast that they possess more gospels than there really are,'' and complains that in his time such writings already have won wide circulation--from Gaul through Rome, Greece, and Asia Minor.

Quispel and his collaborators, who first published the Gospel of Thomas, suggested the date of c. A.D. 140 for the original. Some reasoned that since these gospels were heretical, they must have been written later than the gospels of the New Testament, which are dated c. 60-l l0. But recently Professor Helmut Koester of Harvard University has suggested that the collection of sayings in the Gospel of Thomas, although compiled c. 140, may include some traditions even older than the gospels of the New Testament, "possibly as early as the second half of the first century" (50-100)--as early as, or earlier, than Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/story/pagels.html#ixzz1gXmrVWB1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism#Archon

Christianity and Gnosticism

The ascetic notion of immediate revelation through divine knowledge sought to find an absolute transcendence in a Supreme Deity. This concept is important in identifying what evidence there is pertaining to Gnosticism[78] in the NT, which would influence orthodox teaching.[79] Main Gnostic beliefs that differ from Biblical teachings include: the creator as a lower being [‘Demiurge’] and not a Supreme Deity; scripture having a deep, hidden meaning whose true message could only be understood through “secret wisdom”;[80] and Jesus as a spirit that “seemed”[81] to be human, leading to a belief in the incarnation (Docetism).[82] The traditional “formula which enshrines the Incarnation…is that in some sense God, without ceasing to be God, was made man…which is a prima facie [‘at first sight’ a] contradiction in theological terms…the [NT] nowhere reflects on the virgin birth of Jesus as witnessing to the conjunction of deity and manhood in His person…the deity of Jesus was not…clearly stated in words and [the book of] Acts gives no hint that it was”.[83] This philosophy[84] was known by the so-called “Church Fathers” such as Origen, Irenaeus, and Tertullian.[85]
At its core, Gnosticism formed a speculative interest in the relationship of the oneness of God to the ‘triplicity’ of his manifestations. It seems to have taken Neoplatonic metaphysics of substance and hypostases [“being”][86] as a departure point for interpreting the relationship of the “Father” to the “Son”[87] in its attempt to define a new theology.[88] This would point to the infamous theological controversies by Arius[89] against followers of the Greek Alexandrian school,[90] headed by Athanasius.[91]
The ancient Nag Hammadi Library, discovered in Egypt in the 1940s, revealed how varied this movement was. The writers of these manuscripts considered themselves ‘Christians’, but owing to their syncretistic beliefs, borrowed heavily from the Greek philosopher Plato. The find included the hotly debated Gospel of Thomas, which parallels some of Jesus’ sayings in the Synoptic Gospels. This may point to the existence of a postulated lost textual source for the Gospels of Luke and Matthew, known as the Q document.[92] Thus, modern debate is split between those who see Gnosticism as a pre-Christian form of ‘theosophy’[93] and those who see it as a post-Christian counter-movement.
New Testament scripture was largely unwritten, at least in the form of canon, existing in the practices, customs and teachings of the early Christian community. What largely was communicated generation to generation was an oral tradition passed from the apostles to the Bishops and from Bishops and priests to the faithful through their preaching and way of life.[94] Constantine’s call for unity in the building of the new Roman Church led to his request for Eusebius to produce some 50 copies of manuscripts. These were approved and accepted by the emperor, which later influenced the final stages of canonization.[95]
The best known origin story in the New Testament comes in the person of Simon Magus [Acts 8:9-24]. Although little is known historically about him, his first disciple is said to have been Basilides.[96] Paul’s epistles to Timothy contain refutations of “false doctrine [and] myths” [1 Tim 1:3-5]. The importance placed here, as in most NT scripture, is to uphold the truth since through such knowledge God hopes for “all men” to be saved [1 Tim 2:4]. Paul’s letters to the Corinthians have much to say regarding false teachers (2 Co 11:4), “spiritualists” [pneumatikos—1 Co 2:14-15; 15:44-46] and their gnosis. They warn against the “wisdom of the wise” and their “hollow and deceptive philosophy” (1 Co 1:19; 2:5—NIV; cp. Col 2:1-10; 2:8). The book of Jude also contains scripture exhorting believers to seek the true faith (Jude 3).
The writings attributed to the Apostle John contain the most significant amount of content directed at combating the progenitors of heresies.[97] Most Bible scholars agree that these were some of the last parts of the NT written and as such, can offer the most insights into a 1st century perspective.[98] The writer’s repeated adherence to true knowledge (“hereby we know”—inherent in Jesus’ ministry) and nature[99] seem to challenge other speculative and opposing beliefs.
It is hard to sift through what actual evidence there is regarding Gnosticism in the NT due to their historical synchronicity. The Hammadi library find contains Pagan, Jewish, Greek and early Gnostic influences,[100] further reinforcing the need to tread lightly. The antiquity of the find being of utmost importance since it shows primary evidence of texts that may also have influenced the process of NT canonization.[101][102]

 

[waterproof]

yeah. its called the tanach. the same stuff yeshua read is what they read. and im disturbed that you keep referring to the nag hammadi library as if all the books were meant to be put together to reflect a unified viewpoint. thats not the case. i read it. you have to take that thing codex by codex. also one must keep in mind that they were translated into coptic from koine greek meaning there is a basic incompatability between some of the concepts in it and the seminal hebrew texts. an example of this would be the inclusion of sopia in a lot of the n.h. treatises which is a non no and spurious being that sophia is a greek goddess and the greeks were at odds with the hebrews

Shalom Brother may you have a blessed upcoming Hanukkah as I'M hoping and looking forward to a thread on Hanukkah like you did the one for Yom Kippur, Bruh!! Yo for the life of me i can't find those classic Afrika Leather medallions, i lost mines around 88-89. I need that, where to go?.

And thanks for the better understanding and refirming me to keep doing what i do with other books that's not Tanach i go through them and throw out the lies and keep the truth if it brings better understanding what's in the Tanach.

AND ALSO I LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON The Kebra Nagast

 

[beenwize]

the first christian church is said to have been in Ethiopia and some believe they were gnostic christians.

http://www.christiantimelines.com/firstcentury.htm

[video=youtube;tDdBUtpOEsk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdBUtpOEsk&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLF5C1E61CD5B7B997[/video]

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[beenwize]

The Gnostic Gospels [Paperback]
Elaine Pagels (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Gnostic-Gospels-Elaine-Pagels/dp/0679724532/ref=pd_sim_b_4

Gnosticism's Christian form grew to prominence in the 2nd century A.D. Ultimately denounced as heretical by the early church, Gnosticism proposed a revealed knowledge of God ("gnosis" meaning "knowledge" in Greek), held as a secret tradition of the apostles. In The Gnostic Gospels, author Elaine Pagels suggests that Christianity could have developed quite differently if Gnostic texts had become part of the Christian canon. Without a doubt: Gnosticism celebrates God as both Mother and Father, shows a very human Jesus's relationship to Mary Magdalene, suggests the Resurrection is better understood symbolically, and speaks to self-knowledge as the route to union with God. Pagels argues that Christian orthodoxy grew out of the political considerations of the day, serving to legitimize and consolidate early church leadership. Her contrast of that developing orthodoxy with Gnostic teachings presents an intriguing trajectory on a world faith as it "might have become." The Gnostic Gospels provides engaging reading for those seeking a broader perspective on the early development of Christianity. --F. Hall
Review
"The first major and eminently readable book on gnosticism benefiting from the discovery in 1945 of a collection of Gnostic Christian texts at Nag Hammadi in Egypt." --The New York Times Book Review

 

[waterproof]

Bruh by reading tha Tanach you would of known and seen that Yahuwah have both mother and father attributes in the scriptures just like mother Yahuwah is loving, teaching, nourishing, forgiving ect.... and like a father Yah is strong, expect the best from his children, discipline his children when disobeying, loving and protect's his children, Defend his children against any harm, Let his children learn by touching that hot stove, and give his children anything they ask for will take his children back home.

Again Judah7 this is nothing new to us or our ancestors they got that information from the Tanach, and Yes Yahushua had a very personal relationship with Mary Magdalene she was with him to the end followed him being walking that walk to his death, there at his death and was with his mother through out, Yahushua came to her first after the ressurection AND she ran up to him and he said you cant touch me.

now again if you had better understanding of the Tanach and scrptures you would of known that.

 

[beenwize]

Bruh by reading tha Tanach you would of known and seen that Yahuwah have both mother and father attributes in the scriptures just like mother Yahuwah is loving, teaching, nourishing, forgiving ect.... and like a father Yah is strong, expect the best from his children, discipline his children when disobeying, loving and protect's his children, Defend his children against any harm, Let his children learn by touching that hot stove, and give his children anything they ask for will take his children back home.

Again Judah7 this is nothing new to us or our ancestors they got that information from the Tanach, and Yes Yahushua had a very personal relationship with Mary Magdalene she was with him to the end followed him being walking that walk to his death, there at his death and was with his mother through out, Yahushua came to her first after the ressurection AND she ran up to him and he said you cant touch me.

now again if you had better understanding of the Tanach and scrptures you would of known that.

you have your belief system... what i am doing is stating what the early gnostic christians believed, and what the nag hammadi gospels teach. They didn't believe everything modern Christianity teach and their gospels don't teach the same thing the KJV New Testament teaches. The fact that they were translated into the Egyptian coptic language in the early century is interesting.

There are many gnostics still today that still practice that same early form of christanity which is not the same as KJV christainity. you can look them up over the internet.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

i finally watched the videos....i hope yall dont take that shit serious

 

[beenwize]

i finally watched the videos....i hope yall dont take that shit serious

u believe "God's plan" is to destroy this world by thermal nuclear fire?

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

u believe "God's plan" is to destroy this world by thermal nuclear fire?

I'm on some Bill Maher...."I don't know"

 

[beenwize]

I'm on some Bill Maher...."I don't know"

the video was stating that it was not God's plan.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

the video was saying that 2 billion people were going to be erased from the planet and its happening "now" or really soon

every generation thinks the end of the world is going to be while they are living

plus you didnt see the blatant racism by the dude with the american flag behind him?

 

[beenwize]

the video was saying that 2 billion people were going to be erased from the planet and its happening "now" or really soon

every generation thinks the end of the world is going to be while they are living

plus you didnt see the blatant racism by the dude with the american flag behind him?

lol nah u must have missed part of the video... the video was saying that christians were using fear based propaganda to state that billions would die from nuclear war that was God's plan. that's why the video started with all this Christian End Time propaganda that is promoted by the powers that be thru religion. The video was ultimately refuting that idea tho.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

lol nah u must have missed part of the video... the video was saying that christians were using fear based propaganda to state that billions would die from nuclear war that was God's plan. that's why the video started with all this Christian End Time propaganda that is promoted by the powers that be thru religion. The video was ultimately refuting that idea tho.

word? ill take an L then

so the video was the opposite of everything i believed it to be?

 

[beenwize]

word? ill take an L then

so the video was the opposite of everything i believed it to be?

yea if u look at the video starting at the 11:00 mark u will see the point they were trying to make.