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bambu;4639223 said:Really ... you atheists try to "convert" people to your ideologies just as much if not more than Christian missionaries....
Jaded Righteousness;4639455 said:bambu;4639223 said:Jaded Righteousness;4638882 said:bambu;4602943 said:maestro_lungs;4602920 said:thesiah91;4601900 said:The whole religion vs. atheist discussion is stupid on both ends. It's funny how some atheists try to look down on those that are religious because they believe in unseen things out of a book, yet the atheists does the exact same thing. Most atheists don't have the tools necessary to conduct experiments so therefore cannot witness these things on their own, yet believe that atoms, sound waves. etc. exist because some "reputable" scientists have said so in books. Not saying I don't believe these things exist because I do. Just saying that you can't scream facts,facts,facts in such a discussion if you haven't witnessed these things yourself. The argument always ends up about opinions. I smh at that shit.
Scientist Who Don't Know Each Other & Have Tested it Over & Over. Which is a Pretty Reliable Sources as Far as Sources go, But More to the Point. No Atheist is Certain, Well at Least I'm not & most I Talk to all say I’m an atheist because I think the religion hypothesis is implausible and unsupported by any good evidence. A Smart Atheist Knows there is Nothing that can be Proven or Disproven with a 100% Accuracy, So It Kinda Boils down to Best Case Scenario as Opposed to I Feel it in My Heart or the Book say so as Religions TALK! Atheism isn't Selling Anything ..Religion is!
It seems to me like both sides are pushing an agenda....
How are you pushing an agenda in unbelief? You don't know what you're talking about.
Really ... you atheists try to "convert" people to your ideologies just as much if not more than Christian missionaries....
And you don't know what you speak on sir....
The dude that I had a dialogue with was in another thread "recruiting" individuals to join his athiest group...(kind of like the typical religion modus operandi)
Still salty???....
If that's the case, everyone has an "agenda". An agenda to gain friends, an agenda to earn an education, start a family, an agenda to learn through discussion.
Not salty. Just calling it how I see it.
Religion is the agenda. To disbelieve in the agenda is not itself the same "agenda".
For instance, and for arguments sake.. you say the agenda of racist european society is the theory of evolution. You disbelieve in that "agenda". To teach anyone anything other than evolution or anything against evolution is your own agenda, but it's not necessarily the same agenda. Regardless, you have an agenda.
bambu;4639763 said:Jaded Righteousness;4639455 said:bambu;4639223 said:Jaded Righteousness;4638882 said:bambu;4602943 said:maestro_lungs;4602920 said:thesiah91;4601900 said:The whole religion vs. atheist discussion is stupid on both ends. It's funny how some atheists try to look down on those that are religious because they believe in unseen things out of a book, yet the atheists does the exact same thing. Most atheists don't have the tools necessary to conduct experiments so therefore cannot witness these things on their own, yet believe that atoms, sound waves. etc. exist because some "reputable" scientists have said so in books. Not saying I don't believe these things exist because I do. Just saying that you can't scream facts,facts,facts in such a discussion if you haven't witnessed these things yourself. The argument always ends up about opinions. I smh at that shit.
Scientist Who Don't Know Each Other & Have Tested it Over & Over. Which is a Pretty Reliable Sources as Far as Sources go, But More to the Point. No Atheist is Certain, Well at Least I'm not & most I Talk to all say I’m an atheist because I think the religion hypothesis is implausible and unsupported by any good evidence. A Smart Atheist Knows there is Nothing that can be Proven or Disproven with a 100% Accuracy, So It Kinda Boils down to Best Case Scenario as Opposed to I Feel it in My Heart or the Book say so as Religions TALK! Atheism isn't Selling Anything ..Religion is!
It seems to me like both sides are pushing an agenda....
How are you pushing an agenda in unbelief? You don't know what you're talking about.
Really ... you atheists try to "convert" people to your ideologies just as much if not more than Christian missionaries....
And you don't know what you speak on sir....
The dude that I had a dialogue with was in another thread "recruiting" individuals to join his athiest group...(kind of like the typical religion modus operandi)
Still salty???....
If that's the case, everyone has an "agenda". An agenda to gain friends, an agenda to earn an education, start a family, an agenda to learn through discussion.
Not salty. Just calling it how I see it.
Religion is the agenda. To disbelieve in the agenda is not itself the same "agenda".
For instance, and for arguments sake.. you say the agenda of racist european society is the theory of evolution. You disbelieve in that "agenda". To teach anyone anything other than evolution or anything against evolution is your own agenda, but it's not necessarily the same agenda. Regardless, you have an agenda.
Exactly......
bambu;4640474 said:^^^^^ You ignored the best part....
"So for an atheist that has "recruited" on this forum to state that atheism is not selling anything while religion is, is extremely disingenuous"
Jaded Righteousness;4640494 said:bambu;4640474 said:^^^^^ You ignored the best part....
"So for an atheist that has "recruited" on this forum to state that atheism is not selling anything while religion is, is extremely disingenuous"
No, I ignored the bullshit.
Asking for fellow atheists to join a group discussion for intelligent conversation is not the same as religious brainwashing and indoctrination.
In the 1860s, Southern preachers defending slavery also took the Bible literally. They asked who could question the Word of God when it said, "slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling" (Ephesians 6:5), or "tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect" (Titus 2:9). Christians who wanted to preserve slavery had the words of the Bible to back them up.
Slave religion is the beliefs, religious faith, and practices of Africans brought to the New World beginning in 1619 and that African Americans kept until they were emancipated.
All servants imported and brought into the Country. . . who were not Christians in their native Country. . . shall be accounted and be slaves. All Negro, mulatto and Indian slaves within this dominion. . . shall be held to be real estate.
Jaded Righteousness;4641486 said:Youre silly. Yes, we think for ourselves. No, we are not brainwashed. There is a nice quote that you've brought up once before from marcus garvey and it says that one human lifetime is too short to experience and know everything. We read everything we can and conclude to the best of our ability what is most logical and reasonable for ourselves and the universe. We criticize and question, debate and converse with others for further learning. If thats too much for you, then I hope youre not looking for an apology
bambu;4642004 said:Jaded Righteousness;4641486 said:Youre silly. Yes, we think for ourselves. No, we are not brainwashed. There is a nice quote that you've brought up once before from marcus garvey and it says that one human lifetime is too short to experience and know everything. We read everything we can and conclude to the best of our ability what is most logical and reasonable for ourselves and the universe. We criticize and question, debate and converse with others for further learning. If thats too much for you, then I hope youre not looking for an apology
Nigga you sound stupid as fuck....
bambu;4642004 said:We think for ourselves..... We read everything....
And We know these are lies because We caught you professing to read about evolution.....
I could give a fuck what you think or do, but you should know that you are over confident.... You have the same flaws as your opposition...What??? Yall are the only niggas that can think for yourselves?
I see you got your lil' squad of non-reading, unoriginal dick riders with you...
beenwize;4645177 said:Bambu jus sonned a crew of atheists at the same damn time... This nigga is my hero.