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Paul Hate.;5999820 said:ohhhla;5998560 said:Once again.
You guys are playing "It wasn't bumping in my hood" fallacy.
In the spring of '94 in South Florida, niggas was banging to Death Row, not illmatic.
What makes illmatic a classic if niggas weren't bumping it?
BTW, I do think illmatic is a classic and the hip hop bible, mind you.
So, don't go there.
Illmatic got so much play it was one of the most bootlegged albums of all time...it didn't sell cuz it was aimed for ghetto niggas no party jams like ready to die or reasonable doubt..
Reasonable had poor distribution..
Reasonable Doubt was on Priority can not expect big distribution from them
Yamoley;5999670 said:Fuck the naysayers, the album is a classic even though it got lost in the shuffle back in '96 and flew under the radar....RD had dope production, memorable rhymes, and no skippable tracks!(Even "Ain't no nigga" was a banger).... Til this day, Jay haven't been able to top the flawlessness of "Reasonable Doubt" and he never will...
if there was a skippable track it was aint no nigga ... not saying it was wack .. but due to radio play it got played out
Paul Hate.
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People had it but distribution was weak and it came out in a uptime for hip hop full competition,plus his singles didn't crossover as much.
Mad people had that shit c'mon man.
Mad people had that shit c'mon man.
CertainSoul
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A classic in terms of popularity? No. Especially if you want to compare it to Illmatic. RD just did not have the same impact. Musically though? Why not?
You could argue its a classic off the strength of Dead Presidents alone. I don't think there has been another song in hip hop that has been remixed, re-imagined, redone, and straight up jacked than Dead Presidents II. Sonically and thematically, the CD was cohesive and well written and delivered.
You could argue its a classic off the strength of Dead Presidents alone. I don't think there has been another song in hip hop that has been remixed, re-imagined, redone, and straight up jacked than Dead Presidents II. Sonically and thematically, the CD was cohesive and well written and delivered.
deathrowzorrow
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I been tryna tell these niggas the truth but everytime I let the reason know about all the boring beats and that dead prez, D Evils, Brooklyns finest, and that other joint (I forgot the name) is the only joints worth bumping before I have to move on to the next CD.....Jigga wariors come in the threads with hurt ass feelings and talk about his money n shit acting like it wasnt just a regional album
Disciplined InSight
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Reasonable Doubt is undeniably a classic album because he told us it was...
Already Home_17
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Disciplined InSight;6001203 said:Reasonable Doubt is undeniably a classic album because he told us it was...
"debuts a classic, first album four mics
shoulda been 5 but niggas lacking foresight"
I don't get into what's classic or not but I always thought RD was dope
Disciplined InSight
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Already Home_17;6001264 said:Disciplined InSight;6001203 said:Reasonable Doubt is undeniably a classic album because he told us it was...
"debuts a classic, first album four mics
shoulda been 5 but niggas lacking foresight"
I don't get into what's classic or not but I always thought RD was dope
Same here. I remember buying Reasonable Doubt when it first came out with Mobb Deep's Hell On Earth...and was blasting it hard around my way (Alabama (B'ham) so the regional arguments should be null and void. It was great Hip Hop music. But at the same time I try to be unbiased...it didn't catch on heavy due to (1) their distribution (Priority/Freeze) at the time; (2) Bad Boy (Big, Diddy and co.) was still running shit (3) It Was Written hit around the same time with Nas finally striking the commercial chord to sell with "If I Ruled The World" and "Street Dreams" so yeah Reasonable was a dope album, but in all honesty those "niggas lacking foresight" saw the same thing I've mentioned. It wasn't one of those "automatic" classics like Illmatic.
I think the reason Illmatic was labeled automatically a classic because he was a lyricist who kept the tradition lyricism of Rakim, Kane and G. Rap into the 90's decade and the hottest NYC producers at that time were producing the whole thing, but Nas didn't have the anchor Jay has (more commercial accessible tracks i.e. "Ain't No Nigga", "Feelin' It" was more accessible than "The World Is Yours" and "One Love"). Jay had that too with RD (he strongly felt that as well otherwise he wouldn't kept mentioning it) but it took until The Blueprint...which Jay himself in an interview he considered it a Reasonable Doubt sequel...so that's where the classic talk came from.
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politics as usual ..........terrible, you pose to be a dope dealing thug yet you.rappin over Ron Isley's romance beat? ummmmm nawl
22 twos ........had dope concept yet the beat was so wack its unforgivable.
Aint no nigga ........wack beat and the concept condones simping which im against. On top of that Foxy murked him oj his own shit.
Yall niggas gotta be kidding me with the wack beats on regrets and coming of age
^ ^ Those alone cause the album to not be a classic.
Feelin it and friend or foe wasnt wack but wasnt super duper great either. I actually like friend or foe 2 off of vol 1 better even tho its extra short.
both can i lives were dope tho
overall some joints were very good like the ones in my last post. some like feelin it were ok, but some were down right snoozers or too fuckin retro and thats the honest truth. I dont see what the fuss was about with people throwing the "classic" word around loosely. And before people dismiss me as a Nas fan, I feel like It was written was better than Illmatic overall so I aint just tryna be hard on Jay.
There you have it, happy 4th of July niggas!
22 twos ........had dope concept yet the beat was so wack its unforgivable.
Aint no nigga ........wack beat and the concept condones simping which im against. On top of that Foxy murked him oj his own shit.
Yall niggas gotta be kidding me with the wack beats on regrets and coming of age
^ ^ Those alone cause the album to not be a classic.
Feelin it and friend or foe wasnt wack but wasnt super duper great either. I actually like friend or foe 2 off of vol 1 better even tho its extra short.
both can i lives were dope tho
overall some joints were very good like the ones in my last post. some like feelin it were ok, but some were down right snoozers or too fuckin retro and thats the honest truth. I dont see what the fuss was about with people throwing the "classic" word around loosely. And before people dismiss me as a Nas fan, I feel like It was written was better than Illmatic overall so I aint just tryna be hard on Jay.
There you have it, happy 4th of July niggas!
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Ether44mag
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trolling to the fullest... the only skippable track is AINT NO NIGGA so that tells u alot
Cutler 26 INT's LOL!
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So yall niggas was really bumpin Reasonable Doubt in '96?? In the south??
Im in northern Florida. Shit wasn't gettin noooooo burn here...
I bout it in 03. I think its a dope album...I only skip 2 tracks...
Im in northern Florida. Shit wasn't gettin noooooo burn here...
I bout it in 03. I think its a dope album...I only skip 2 tracks...
Paul Hate.;5999820 said:ohhhla;5998560 said:Once again.
You guys are playing "It wasn't bumping in my hood" fallacy.
In the spring of '94 in South Florida, niggas was banging to Death Row, not illmatic.
What makes illmatic a classic if niggas weren't bumping it?
BTW, I do think illmatic is a classic and the hip hop bible, mind you.
So, don't go there.
Illmatic got so much play it was one of the most bootlegged albums of all time...it didn't sell cuz it was aimed for ghetto niggas no party jams like ready to die or reasonable doubt..
Reasonable had poor distribution..
And Reasonable Doubt was commercially more appealing than illmatic and had classic singles.
I respect illmatic more than RD but RD is a classic.
Niggas will sit up here and lie to say it wasn't bumping in my neighborhood to discredit.
Cutler 26 INT's LOL!;6003465 said:So yall niggas was really bumpin Reasonable Doubt in '96?? In the south??
Im in northern Florida. Shit wasn't gettin noooooo burn here...
I bout it in 03. I think its a dope album...I only skip 2 tracks...
Now, were people bumping illmatic in '94?
I'm in South Florida, nobody was bumping that shit down here.
