Reason Debates VI: Complex_Counsil vs _Menace_ (_Menace_ wins)

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Jamica your slippin I think its a classic come on now lol

I think you should let me explain why the doc is a classic especially since I'm from Cali and can tell you the impact it had
 
Well I'm going in.

First off let me say this album isnt whack but it's not a Hip Hop Classic IMO.

Maybe a regional classic but not no hip hop classic. What impact did this album have?

Who was influenced by this album? I've never heard anyone off the IC or any other Emcees praise this album. And if I'm not mistaken Master P bit this whole ICE Cream man style from Oakland Rapper YUKMOUTH.


Master P is known for biting certain rappers he basically tried to run off with Pac's style and make money of that. Then he took the whole ICE CREAM man idea from Yukmouth which actually sparked a beef between the two. Like I said this is a regional classic at best but no way this is a Hip Hop classic its impact wasnt strong and it has no replay value.
 
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Here's my 1st round

_Menace_;5839690 said:
Well I'm going in.

First off let me say this album isnt whack but it's not a Hip Hop Classic IMO.

Maybe a regional classic but not no hip hop classic. What impact did this album have?

Who was influenced by this album? I've never heard anyone off the IC or any other Emcees praise this album. And if I'm not mistaken Master P bit this whole ICE Cream man style from Oakland Rapper YUKMOUTH.


Master P is known for biting certain rappers he basically tried to run off with Pac's style and make money of that. Then he took the whole ICE CREAM man idea from Yukmouth which actually sparked a beef between the two. Like I said this is a regional classic at best but no way this is a Hip Hop classic its impact wasnt strong and it has no replay value.


 
Okay cool, one more question, the 500 word limit is for every turn?

What a topic to start with...da f....

Well IMO: If you consider Mater P a legend at the end of the ninties..This album was one of the biggest reason. This was Master P's( No limit's) first platinum album, imo, thats something. While he didnt have as much exposure as other classic albums from a already golden year in hiphop, i mean like: Do you know how many classics came out in 96?? And he still took his own spot, going platinum with a album not as good as many of the others of that year, but with it own sound and feeling that anyone knew at that time.

I always thought there isnt a better example of view on stardom like Master P has. People always like Master P a legend? GTFO! Or yes offcourse he is! I think at the time, this album certain had a underground classic status and at least made Master P bigger than he was. Yes the album was bigger in the South then NY, but it gave him a period spot in the game, the south was coming up after that. Maybe he was biting other artists /albums, i dont know, I aint even gonna lie, I dont know shit about the tracks from this album like I know from a Outkast album from the same time. But one of the reason Master P stayed relevant after 1996 is undoubtely the Ice Cream Man album.
 
Master P is known more for his "Hustle" than his music. Master P's ICE CREAM MAN is a regional classic at best and the reason he stayed relevant was because he joked Pac's style after he passed. I've listened to this album and it has no replay value it lacks or versatility and creativity. Master P's flow wasnt good and the lyrics were average at best he delivery sounded like he was talking. You said this album come out in 96?

Lets see the top 10 albums in 96.

AEOM

7DT

IWW

Muddy Waters

IRON MAN

ATLiens

Hell On Earth

The Score

Reasonable Doubt

Illadelph Halflife

ICE Cream Man cant be compared to any of these albums.

These albums I named either have More IMPACT/Replay Value/Classic Songs/and are more influential to Hip Hop than ICE Cream Man. ICE CREAM Man is a down south classic but when brought up against other albums for other regions it doesnt stand a chance.
 
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