Re-Up: The Official OFWGKTADGAF Thread

[Dakari]

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[Ekscape]

They dont wanna hear that though.

Imagine what it means for hip hop when the biggest "underground" acts for the last couple years are the Odd Futures and Drakes of the world. Artists who are in bed with corporate machinery posing as struggling up and comers. Pushed by the corporations to blend in with the people like the half human/ half robot Terminator from T4.

nigga you are a dumb ass motha fucka "in the bed with the cooporate machine"... "posing as struggling up and comers"... I hope Tyler read your post finds you and slaps the shit out of you for that dumbass shit you just said

 

[Ekscape]

Truth is truth even when its unpopular. Bol has written plenty of untrue and fucked up stuff about most of the industry. All of that is still over there in the XXL archives. It's the stuff thats too accurate that hurts feelings and gets pulled down.

When was the last time such an independent movement could get the most popular writer at XXL fired, appear on tv without a major label deal, appear on magazine covers, appear in the studio with Beyonce, beef with underground king makers like Nah Right/ 2dopeboyz, and rise to success overnight?

There's no such thing.

Overnight?... That nigga Frank Ocean been griding for years to finally sit in the a studio and write songs with Beyonce; he's already worked with other R&B artist for a lil while now... Nah Right/2dopeboyz who the fuck are they? Some nigga sitting behind a computer that post rap video, you think they're L.A. Reid or something? fuck outta here... Major Labels are becoming obsolete everyone knows this in the industry, if you're making noise and people like your music then magazines, tv, all of that will come to you rather you're signed or not... Stop being a fkn hater there hasn't been no "over night" fame those dudes been working their asses off, writting, singing, rapping, producing for years already... you are the definition of the word "hater" and you will not garner anymore responses from me

 

[beerisgood4ya]

BANNED!!: Byron Crawford’s XXL Article On Odd Future (Uncensored)

Astroturfing and the Rise of the Black Juggalos - The article that got Byron Crawford fired from XXL

What if a group came along that was obviously a black variation on Insane Clown Posse, but no one seemed to notice or give a shit, because they were black, and because no one (who has a computer) knows enough about juggalos to say for certain whether or not someone actually is a juggalo, and because they’ve been championed by people who see themselves as being above listening to juggalo music. It looks like this is what’s happening with Odd Future.

Odd Future has been the talk of the hip-hop Internets for the past couple of weeks, especially amongst people who are constantly trying to figure out the next big thing and attach themselves to it, regardless of what it is. No shots at the late, great Combat Jack. Oddly enough (no pun intended), they didn’t merit inclusion on the cover of this year’s Freshmen Issue, the hilarious cover of which was revealed yesterday, even though it’s a well known fact that Odd Future is secretly signed to Interscope, one of the main pipelines to the cover of the Freshmen Issue and to the cover of XXL in general. I wonder if this was a mere matter of rank ineptitude by my benefactors at the dead tree version of XXL, like that time they included OJ da Juice Man (ayyyy) in the Freshman 10, despite the fact that he’d already been on the cover a few months prior(?!), and Wacka Flocka Flame ended up being the breakout star amongst Gucci Mane weed carriers, or if the TIs at Interscope didn’t want Odd Future on the cover of this issue, for whatever reason. They might not see people who read XXL – illiterate children, people in prison, men who like women of jurassic proportions (short arms and everything) – as being the primary demographic for Odd Future.

Odd Future made their big television debut the other day on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, or whatever it was called, and man was it the talk of the Internets. I can only imagine what it was like at the time on Black People Twitter. It must have been as obnoxious as when everyone all of a sudden starts talking about sports. Remember that time, a few years ago, when BET held some sort of awards show, and all of these ultra-obscure black entertainers (I’m talking Keith Sweat obscure) started trending, and white went all batshit? Up until that point, no one had been aware that Twitter is mostly used by black people, because black people tend to go on there at night, while people who work for a living are asleep. In the morning, there might be some weird shit like #uainthittingitright in the trending topics, but it’d be gone by 10 AM. These days, there’s enough black people on Twitter to dominate at all hours of the day and night. But that’s not why I wasn’t there during Odd Future’s performance on Fallon. I was probably busy either working like a Hebrew slave, self-medicating or making the most of this Reality Kings password, which somehow still works – which I guess could be included under self-medicating, but I like to keep my pr0n consumption and my alcohol consumption separate, because it makes me feel like a more well-rounded individual.

I didn’t get a chance to check out their performance until the next day. I awoke from my drink and fap-induced coma at the ass crack of one in the afternoon or whatever (which has been a real problem for me lately), logged on to the Internets, and that’s all anyone wanted to talk about. Seemingly every blog there ever was posted the video. People were still talking about it on Black People Twitter 12+ hours after the fact – which is like a week later in Internets. They don’t even talk about people who died for 12 hours, unless they died at night, and people were asleep, and so they didn’t get to pretend as if they give a shit. You would think that this Odd Future appearance on Fallon was roughly the equivalent of a circa ’93 Biggie Smalls making his television debut on that show Jon Stewart used to have on MTV, or whatever was big back in 1993. Let’s just say Martin, since I remember Biggie Smalls was once on an episode of Martin, and since I see this site is running huge, ridonkulous banner ads for Martin reruns. #culturalrelevancefail I hightailed it to Pitchfork to check out this video, out of a sincere interest to see something that good, and because I’ve been meaning to check out Odd Future anyway, since I read something in the Village Voice about how every song they ever made has to do with rape. Not that I find that kind of thing amusing, but I need to see for myself, like when my grandfather would purposely drive past the ho stroll on our way to church, back during the crack era.

The song Odd Future did on Fallon could have been all about rape, but it’s hard to say, what with the guy trying to rap through a ski mask, and jumping around all over the place like the monkey exhibit at the St. Louis Zoo. It could have been a song about that Jodie Foster movie The Accused, for all I know. I’ll have to reserve judgment on Odd Future until if/when I get a chance to hear them rap while standing still. In the meantime, I’m more concerned with the fact that they seem to exhibit juggalo tendencies. This first occurred to me when I saw them perform the other day on Fallon, jumping up on the furniture, getting all up in people’s faces, yelling at the top their lungs, which struck me as a real dick move, like cornering someone and them spraying them down with Faygo root beer. It occurred to me that you could probably run down the entire litany of juggalo characteristics and find some sort of connection with Odd Future. Insane Clown Posse, for example, has its origin in ’90s-era horrocore rap. I’ve heard Odd Future’s music described as horrorcore. I heard one of them even ate a roach, in the video that started that hilarious beef between Noz and eskay on Twitter the other day. Insane Clown Posse performs in Kiss-style face paint. The guy from Odd Future wore a ski mask on Fallon the other day. Odd Future is said to be obsessed with rape. A group of juggalos famously tried to rape Tila Tequila at last year’s annual Gathering of the Juggalos. Insane Clown Posse’s fanbase consists primarily of guys who live in their mother’s basements. Noz should probably consider moving back in with his parents, if he’s out here soliciting for donations like Lil Kim, or Jean Grae, who was trying to get money via PayPal before it was all trendy. (I see you, boo.) In fact, Nozologist that I am (nullus), I seem to recall him trying to bone up on Insane Clown Posse a while, for the purposes of contrarianism I’m sure, but he probably couldn’t bring himself to go through with it, because their music hit a little too close to home.If I’d heard any music from Insane Clown Posse and Odd Future, other than the hilarious “Miracles,” and whatever that was Odd Future did on Fallon, I’m sure I could come up with even more comparisons. Indeed, I think it’s been so difficult for the media to discuss anything having to do with juggalos, because no one with the sense god gave geese wants to spend the time it would take to seriously engage with their music. They got some press, around the time when “Miracles” blew up, but it was short-lived. (This may have coincided with Noz’s sudden, brief interest in them.) This became clear to me a few weeks ago, when that congresswoman got shot at a Subway down in Arizona. A few days later, I was reading this epic report in the New York Times, which really was one of the more impressive things they’ve ever done, right up there with that Times magazine piece on Chris Matthews, and it was so obvious to me that the kid they were describing was a juggalo, but the Times failed to draw the connection, either because none of the umpteen people who contributed reporting to the story know Jack Schitt about pop culture, or because they were wary about assigning blame for such a heinous crime, for legal reasons. At one point, one of the guys Jared Lee Loughner went to high school with even discussed how frustrated Loughner would get with trying to understand how magnets work. (No bullshit, you can look it up yourself.)

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[MICHAEL-V.I.]

Ayo Who are these people ?

 

[Dakari]

That shit was mad ignorant. Byron Crawford an idiot. LOL at comparing a ski-mask to face paint like rappers have never wore ski-masks before

look at this juggalo... (by Byron's definition)

 

[bkkbully]

Overnight?... That nigga Frank Ocean been griding for years to finally sit in the a studio and write songs with Beyonce; he's already worked with other R&B artist for a lil while now... Nah Right/2dopeboyz who the fuck are they? Some nigga sitting behind a computer that post rap video, you think they're L.A. Reid or something? fuck outta here... Major Labels are becoming obsolete everyone knows this in the industry, if you're making noise and people like your music then magazines, tv, all of that will come to you rather you're signed or not... Stop being a fkn hater there hasn't been no "over night" fame those dudes been working their asses off, writting, singing, rapping, producing for years already... you are the definition of the word "hater" and you will not garner anymore responses from me

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[A$AP_A$TON]

I got dat Frank Ocean mix-tape the other day, shit is dope. Dat Swim Good been stuck in my head all week.

 

[gum989]

I'm not reading all that shit. Can someone sum it up please.

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

I'm not reading all that shit. Can someone sum it up please.

Basically he just comparin OF to ICP, sayin they share alot of the same qaulities as far as subject matter and overall style.

 

[gum989]

Basically he just comparin OF to ICP, sayin they share alot of the same qaulities as far as subject matter and overall style.

OK. I thought they were saying that their recent success was "manufactured".

And while I'm starting to get into these kids, I can't help but shake my head everytime I hear Tyler say that they have "nothing in common with horrorcore", when anyone who pays attention to certain parts of their subject matter can tell that just isn't true.

 

[ustreet_monsta]

nigga you are a dumb ass motha fucka "in the bed with the cooporate machine"... "posing as struggling up and comers"... I hope Tyler read your post finds you and slaps the shit out of you for that dumbass shit you just said

I didnt know Tyler the Creator was built like that. Odd Future is really slapping "niggas" up in the streets?

 

[Dakari]

MTV Woodie interview
http://www.mtv.com/videos/?id=1659982
comedy...

 

[Dakari]

Some Unreleased Earl Sweatshirt Entitled “Dat Ass”. Our Soldier, Wolf, Bother And Friend Is Currently Not With Us. Stop Asking Where He Is, We Like To Keep This Private Because It’s Very Personal For Us. And No, He is Not As Some Boarding School And Blah Blah Blah, None Of You People Know Because NONE of You Know Him Personally. Free Earl. Click Photo To Download.

http://limelinx.com/files/8801ded3f243b4be0998b5447f239275

 

[PLASTIC RULES]

[video=youtube;HPY2RzL6yWs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPY2RzL6yWs[/video]

Go to 1:14.

Considering how washed up Wu-tang is, I agree with their statement. Only people makin noise from Wu-tang is Ghostface, Raekwon, and recently Meth. RZA out in the mountains studying samurai and kung fu manuscripts while sippin ginseng tea, and the rest of those niggaz ain't been heard from in a minute.

Odd Future is droppin that nerdy street rap, which is what Wu-tang was known for, sans the Japanese kung fu obsession.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

i hate when people say "the new this, the new that"

just be THE FIRST of what you already are

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

aint nothing new under the sun though....
name a group or rapper and i'll name their prototype...

i dont disagree with this

 

[MC The Rapper]

they are the new wu tang 9-10 niggas in a group masterminded by a producer

 

[KingJamal]

Big Ghostface needs to roast these niggaz

Immediately

 

[Brova]

I mean them niggas do got a movement tho

They sub groups and solo profects got EVERY type of rap nigga in mind

Thats they area

Bet most wouldnt know they got joints like thisz:


[video=youtube;RX39fF6n2Lw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX39fF6n2Lw[/video]