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Chi-Town Bully
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JBJ go beat the shit out of Evans
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sboogie;2258885 said:fighter dont say they wont fight each other for no reason...
its an honor thing...
Ask Silva and Machida...
Silva and machida been training together for years....so their relationship is deeper and more complex than bones and Evans. Jon Jones have only been training in mma for like 3 years. I seriously doubt his relationship with rashad is on the level of machida and silva. Plus now as champion how would it look for him to be turning down fights?
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I understand it but then again its a one on one sport sure you train and you build a bond but sometimes you have to do what you gotta do if rashard wants to be the 205 champ again he better pull that tampon out of his puss cause dana will gladly find someone who does want that shot ...it sucks im sure it does having to fight a guy you train with but you knew this going into being a mma fighter thats there no friends in the ring just you and him sick of hearing this bullshit its a fucking title id fighting my own brother to be the champion if so be it cause thats your main goal to wear gold not to make friends
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Chi-Town Bully
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Evans just afraid to fight Bones thats all this is.Who makes a pact to not fight someone.
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Will Munny
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Rashad evans at 185 before 2012?
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arbitration
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Rashad is crying, but to a certain extent, he's telling some truth here. Jones joined Jackson's camp only under the premises that he wouldn't fight Rashad, and Rashad pulled for him to get there. But then Jackson just pulled the rug out from under him the moment Bones had an opportunity at the belt. I definitely feel for him.
As for Bones, he was caught between a rock and a hard place. You can't turn down an opportunity for the belt, but at the same time, it just sucks that he has to take it from Rashad. Dana White probably did this shit on purpose too; we know how much he hates Jackson's camp and hates when his fighters say shit like they won't fight each other.
But that being said, I think outside of Silva, Rashad has the tools to beat JBJ. First off, his hand and foot speed is the quickest out of any opponent Bones faced. His endurance is much better than Jones as well. Most importantly, Rashad knows how to neutralize dangerous strikers by closing the gap. He beat Rampage by pinning him against the cage and making sure he didn't get off any punches. JBJ similarly is dangerous at long distance, but has yet to show a close distance game. I think if Rashad keeps the distance close, uses some in-fighting, and stays off his back, I can see him getting a decision.
As for Bones, he was caught between a rock and a hard place. You can't turn down an opportunity for the belt, but at the same time, it just sucks that he has to take it from Rashad. Dana White probably did this shit on purpose too; we know how much he hates Jackson's camp and hates when his fighters say shit like they won't fight each other.
But that being said, I think outside of Silva, Rashad has the tools to beat JBJ. First off, his hand and foot speed is the quickest out of any opponent Bones faced. His endurance is much better than Jones as well. Most importantly, Rashad knows how to neutralize dangerous strikers by closing the gap. He beat Rampage by pinning him against the cage and making sure he didn't get off any punches. JBJ similarly is dangerous at long distance, but has yet to show a close distance game. I think if Rashad keeps the distance close, uses some in-fighting, and stays off his back, I can see him getting a decision.
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1. How u know rashad's endurance is much better than bones? Ive yet to see bones get tired in the ring plus rashad was gassed the 3rd round of the rampage fight, that's how he almost got finished
2. Rampage reach is no where as significant as bones....so rashad closing the distance on rampage holla no bearing as how he handles Jones' reach
Rashad is gonna get his ass handed to him when they fight
2. Rampage reach is no where as significant as bones....so rashad closing the distance on rampage holla no bearing as how he handles Jones' reach
Rashad is gonna get his ass handed to him when they fight
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arbitration
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htowntx;2259733 said:1. How u know rashad's endurance is much better than bones? Ive yet to see bones get tired in the ring plus rashad was gassed the 3rd round of the rampage fight, that's how he almost got finished
2. Rampage reach is no where as significant as bones....so rashad closing the distance on rampage holla no bearing as how he handles Jones' reach
Rashad is gonna get his ass handed to him when they fight
Answer to Question 1: From Sherdog.com:
To the naked eye, it appeared that Jon Jones was never in the slightest bit of trouble during his 205-pound title-winning performance against Mauricio “Shogun” Rua in the main event of Saturday’s UFC 128.
Jones dissected Rua en route to a third-round technical knockout at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Throughout the bout, “Bones” seemed to go wherever he wanted, whenever he wanted, and Rua seemed helpless to stop him.
However, Jones’ striking coach, Mike Winkeljohn, had a different view of the competition from the fighter’s corner. According to “Coach Wink,” Jones had plenty of adversity to overcome.
“There was a turning point after the second round where we were real scared, because [Jones] was tired,” Winkeljohn told Sherdog.com after the bout. “He had pressed all day long. Well, s--t, the whole last two weeks, [cameras] following him around 24-7. I think all that hoopla got to him, and the pressure got to him a little bit. He was tired after the second round, and I was worried.”
“But you know what he did? He pushed through it, and that is a champion. That is a veteran. At 23 years old, that is incredible. All of a sudden, in the third round, he just decided, ‘Yeah, I’m going to win this thing,’ and he just went to another gear.”
Jones, who unexpectedly apprehended a robber in a New Jersey park just hours before the title bout, opened the fight with his trademark unorthodox standup attack. Though many would view spinning back kicks and elbow strikes as risky maneuvers in such an important fight, Winkeljohn asserts that those techniques did not concern him.
“The spinning elbow and the distraction kicks don’t worry me at all. What worried me was that ‘Shogun’ was trying to counter Jon’s punches. That’s where I thought we might have been in trouble,” said Winkeljohn. “Sometimes Jon stayed in the pocket and didn’t bail out the right direction or the proper defense. That’s what scared me.”
Though Winkeljohn saw room for improvement in his pupil’s performance, the revered striking coach spoke proudly of Jones’ poise and skill under the pressure of the moment.
“I see the progression in the gym. I was telling everybody that he could beat ‘Shogun’ standing up,” said Winkeljohn. “I’ll never say it was easy, though. ‘Shogun’ is very tough, and he was inches away from a few counters in there when Jon was punching. But, for the most part, [Jon] dominated. He stayed long, and he hit him long and often. He [used] angles and he took [Rua] down when he wanted to. It was a great performance. I’m very happy. It’s the beginning of the Jon Jones era.”
Up next for the new champion is a defense of his title against friend and fellow Jackson’s MMA product Rashad Evans. Though the two had stated in the past that they would never clash in the cage, it appears that mentality has changed. Trainer Greg Jackson has vowed to help prepare neither man in the case of such a fight, but for Winkeljohn, the situation is a bit trickier.
Answer to Question # 2: Again from Sherdog.com
“I have to think about it. I have a dilemma in that Rashad kind of left our camp a couple of fights back, and I wasn’t in his corner in his last two fights because he was really training up in Denver. Jon Jones came in and I started working with Jon, so it’s kind of tough. I’ll have to figure that one out,” said Winkeljohn. “I love Rashad to death. I think he’s much better than people even know. He could be scary for Jon. He has the tools to beat Jon Jones. So I’m not sure yet. I have to think about it.”
This isn't Rashad's former training just gassing him up either - Rashad has some serious speed that people don't give him credit for. Shogun may be dangerous, but he is slow as fuck, just like every other opponent JBJ has faced. Rashad won't be standing around in JBJ's range trying to absorb damage. When he's out of range, he will stick and move, and when he gets close enough, he presses up to stifle any attack. It's the exact kind of way you need to fight JBJ, unless you're a brilliant counter-striker like Anderson Silva.
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dwade206;2260664 said:Sound like some gay shit to me. If you're a fighter, you fight the mandatories and the champs, period. All of this bullshit about not fighting teammates and all this other bullshit is just as bad as Mayweather and Pacquiao ducking each other
C/S!.........
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gdatruth2.0
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Evans is blowing this situation completely outta proportion and bringing this on himself.
Was Jones supposed to turn the title fight?
I respect him for saying he would fight a teammate if need be.
Evans is upset that after all his waiting he lost out on his title shot due to injury. I read alot of Jones' interviews and I cant recall him saying anything that was outta pocket.
Was Jones supposed to turn the title fight?
I respect him for saying he would fight a teammate if need be.
Evans is upset that after all his waiting he lost out on his title shot due to injury. I read alot of Jones' interviews and I cant recall him saying anything that was outta pocket.
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@arbitration.....even the article said Jones was tired from doing all the press leading up to the fight, plus that was his 2nd fight in a Montgomery plus non stop training....of course he was going to be a lil gassed
As for 2.....the dude trained rashad. What u expect him to say? That rashad doesn't stand a chance lol? That would make him look weak as a trainer lmao
As for 2.....the dude trained rashad. What u expect him to say? That rashad doesn't stand a chance lol? That would make him look weak as a trainer lmao
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toheeb27;2258712 said:LOL, Thats some bitter shit. Evans is freaking scared.
c/s, he won't last as long as Shogun, watch.
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