GetoBoy;c-9969063 said:
GetoBoy;c-9968655 said:
Lyrics (5) - One of the best lyricist gotta give him that much no explanation needed
Delivery (4) - All them funny voices and yelling take away and bring his delivery down a notch
Language (4.5) - Only reason it's not a 5 is becuz he does spend a lot of his raps really not saying much but it sounds like he saying alot with his words
Story telling (3) - Outside of Stan can't really think of much story telling he has done
Catalog (3.5) - This rating is SOLELY off his first 3 albums...it would be a 4 or higher if the fall off on the actual quality of music wasn't so big
Subject Matter (4) - He touched on alot of subjects in his career especially personal ones they just don't all appeal to us but I'm tryna look outside of just myself here
Creativity (4) - His songs might not be the most creative but he is very creative in what he be saying in the songs as far as his bars
Collaboration (4.5) - Can't think of too many memorable Em collabs I mean there's always Renegade but Em isn't the most collaborating rapper and even then it's very few times he just completely outshines anybody but I'll give him a 4.5 becuz I can't think of times he's been completely outshined either but his resume isn't long enough for a 5
Impact (4) - Sorry Em hasn't had this great impact on hip hop since most of his fans aren't hip hop fans they're just Em fans doesn't do much in the way of business and Shady records outside of signing 50 ain't really impacted hip hop that greatly either
Total score (36.5) - With these categories given no way should his total be above any of the other artists given out the gate this is as objective a Em score you gonna get becuz Jay 34.5 but Em 38.5 is just crazy especially when Pac and BIG have lower scores too you highly overrating Em
@"The Lonious Monk" bruh do you read or just pick out what you want to I literally gave reasons for everything and why I thought they weren't higher and none of them had to do with another rapper you just tryna ignore it to make it seem like ppl aren't being objective when all ppl are saying is there is absolutely no possible way an objective person can look at those categories and give the other rappers the low scores they got then give Em his scores he got somewhere in there it becomes bias either for a rapper or against a rapper and Jay is the best example becuz nigga you gave him a 34 and Em a 38 you telling me the difference between Em and Jay in those categories objectively speaking is that great???? Fool knock it off I call complete bullshit
I think you don't read. I've said twice now that I have no problem with your scores or the justifications for your scores. They are perfectly fine. This is the third time I've said this. Hopefully the third time is the charm.
I was specifically talking about this statement:
With these categories given no way should his total be above any of the other artists given out the gate this is as objective a Em score you gonna get becuz Jay 34.5 but Em 38.5 is just crazy especially when Pac and BIG have lower scores too you highly overrating Em
and other statements where you basically said I wasn't being objective because I rated Em higher. Those are subjective statements. You like the other rappers better than Em and criticizing my score based solely on your opinion that they are better. I've said several times, if you think I'm overrating Em, pick the categories you want to contest and provide an argument. For example, you could have just said, you believe my Delivery score is too high because his voices tend to detract from the overall delivery sometimes and many people can't get into that. That's fair, other people seem to agree with, I'd probably knock it down. However, instead of doing that, you keep on harping this false idea that I have to believe Jay should be higher than Em or I'm not being objective. Again, that is purely your opinion and nothing more. There are no facts behind that at all, which is why I'm dismissing it. For the last time, if you think I'm overrating Em, cool. The whole point of these topics is to correct my initial score, so show me where I went wrong. However, if your major beef stems from the fact that he has a higher starting score than your favorite has, then there is no point arguing that because that's not what these threads are about.
