Rapper Ranking Project: Rapper #4 - Nas

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The Lonious Monk;c-9957116 said:
Ok, but can you admit that you are a little biased with your assessments?

SD is typically spoken about nearly as badly as Nastradamus, so that's two that are bad.

And who calls all those albums classics? Mostly Nas fans right? What average Hip Hop fan is running around talking about the Lost Tapes or God's Son are classics? Hell, I'm a Nas fan and I don't even believe that. I think the majority of his albums are good to great, but he has some that aren't all that. As a result, I'd say a 5 is high for his Catalog, but what about a 4.5. That would mean that he for sure has a Top 10 Catalog. Would you agree with that?

If Streets Disciple and Nastradamus are Nas's worst albums then he gets a strong 5 for catalog. Those two albums are better than most people's albums.

And if you compare those two albums to anybody else who has a 20+ year career, anybody else probably has two or three albums that aren't as strong as their best albums

LL Cool J

Eminem

Jay Z

Rakim

KRS One

Kool G Rap

Masta Ace

Snoop

Ice Cube

Outkast

The Roots

WuTang (Method Man, Ghostface, Raekwon)

The Lox (Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch)

Cam'ron

Too $hort

Master P

E-40

^^^ Thats 20 artists that have been around for 20+years. How many of them can you say have a better catalog than Nas?
 
Niggas steady fighting me on this but no one is really giving any input on the scoring suggestions. I don't agree with any of this shit ya'll saying. So I'll put it up for a vote.

If you think the scores for Catalog and Impact should both be 5, Goat this post.

If you think 4.5 for Catalog and 4 for impact is fine, Cosign this post.

If you think neither change should be made, Nosign this post.
 
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh
 
id agree with op except one

Language: should be 4.5-4.75 at most

NAS is amazing at everything else, but I think he should be penalized for not being that strong when it comes to wordplay , multis,double entendres and punchlines. Alot of hip hop fans don't value these things but some do. And there's alot of rappers on the goat list who does these things better than him. Personally, I like him enough to give him a 5 but I understand if people don't.

also for those giving nas a five in impact...come on my g. what do you guys give Jay Kanye and tupac? 10's?

Nas should be at most 4 on impact

 
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.
 
R2_163;c-9957217 said:
id agree with op except one

Language: should be 4.5-4.75 at most

NAS is amazing at everything else, but I think he should be penalized for not being that strong when it comes to wordplay , multis,double entendres and punchlines. Alot of hip hop fans don't value these things but some do. And there's alot of rappers on the goat list who does these things better than him. Personally, I like him enough to give him a 5 but I understand if people don't.

also for those giving nas a five in impact...come on my g. what do you guys give Jay Kanye and tupac? 10's?

Nas should be at most 4 on impact

Nas' wordplay is pretty good, not the best. He's pushed up to a 5 because he's good across the board. Metaphors, complex rhyme schemes, word selection and overall vocabulary, etc... Do you disagree that Nas is one over the most well rounded ever when it comes to these things?
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9957229 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.

Naw I'm just watching the inconsistencies I'ma let you cook..... I was called a stan and overrating for giving Jay 40 but niggas giving Nas 40+ and since you agree it's coo my problem from jump but I'ma sit back and watch
 
GetoBoy;c-9957257 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957229 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.

Naw I'm just watching the inconsistencies I'ma let you cook..... I was called a stan and overrating for giving Jay 40 but niggas giving Nas 40+ and since you agree it's coo my problem from jump but I'ma sit back and watch

You were called a stan because you are a stan not because of your score, and because some of your arguments were bad. However, when I got past my personal bias against you, I admitted wrong and acknowledged that some of your arguments were good and raised the scores specifically because of things you said. So stop whining and claiming unfairness.

I don't even really pay attention to the scores given. The only thing I pay attention to is the arguments given for why baseline scores should be changed. The only scores I ever say are stanning or fanboying are the all 5s scores and I feel the same way about people in this thread that are doing that. So basically if you believe the Nas score is too high, make your argument, otherwise let it go. This is the fourth topic and you still carrying a grudge from the first one like a scorned female or something.
 
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The Lonious Monk;c-9957267 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957257 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957229 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.

Naw I'm just watching the inconsistencies I'ma let you cook..... I was called a stan and overrating for giving Jay 40 but niggas giving Nas 40+ and since you agree it's coo my problem from jump but I'ma sit back and watch

You were called a stan because you are a stan not because of your score, and because some of your arguments were bad. However, when I got past my personal bias against you, I admitted wrong and acknowledged that some of your arguments were good and raised the scores specifically because of things you said. So stop whining and claiming unfairness.

I don't even really pay attention to the scores given. The only thing I pay attention to is the arguments given for why baseline scores should be changed. The only scores I ever say are stanning or fanboying are the all 5s scores and I feel the same way about people in this thread that are doing that. So basically if you believe the Nas score is too high, make your argument, otherwise let it go. This is the fourth topic and you still carrying a grudge from the first one like a scorned female or something.

Call it what you want I call it calling out your bullshit it's just you keep repeating your bullshit so I repeat calling you on it
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9957236 said:
R2_163;c-9957217 said:
id agree with op except one

Language: should be 4.5-4.75 at most

NAS is amazing at everything else, but I think he should be penalized for not being that strong when it comes to wordplay , multis,double entendres and punchlines. Alot of hip hop fans don't value these things but some do. And there's alot of rappers on the goat list who does these things better than him. Personally, I like him enough to give him a 5 but I understand if people don't.

also for those giving nas a five in impact...come on my g. what do you guys give Jay Kanye and tupac? 10's?

Nas should be at most 4 on impact

Nas' wordplay is pretty good, not the best. He's pushed up to a 5 because he's good across the board. Metaphors, complex rhyme schemes, word selection and overall vocabulary, etc... Do you disagree that Nas is one over the most well rounded ever when it comes to these things?

I would agree. I'm just creating dialogue. I just think it's questionable to say he's good at everything when I can't think of one entendre from him. Not one. And he's light on punches too

There's plenty of guys where j had to rewind a line and say "WTF did he just say??" Not so much with him. I'm more awed by his overall song concepts imagery and metaphors.

It hard to explain, but if there was a cypher between him black thought, mos def, Jay elec, kdot and Jay z who would kill it the most??
 
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I gave Nas a 5 in all categories because I think he's the best MC Hip Hop has ever seen. And he has the catalog to prove it. You can make full length CDs of his unreleased material that would shit on 9 out of 10 rappers retail albums.

 
GetoBoy;c-9957292 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957267 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957257 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957229 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.

Naw I'm just watching the inconsistencies I'ma let you cook..... I was called a stan and overrating for giving Jay 40 but niggas giving Nas 40+ and since you agree it's coo my problem from jump but I'ma sit back and watch

You were called a stan because you are a stan not because of your score, and because some of your arguments were bad. However, when I got past my personal bias against you, I admitted wrong and acknowledged that some of your arguments were good and raised the scores specifically because of things you said. So stop whining and claiming unfairness.

I don't even really pay attention to the scores given. The only thing I pay attention to is the arguments given for why baseline scores should be changed. The only scores I ever say are stanning or fanboying are the all 5s scores and I feel the same way about people in this thread that are doing that. So basically if you believe the Nas score is too high, make your argument, otherwise let it go. This is the fourth topic and you still carrying a grudge from the first one like a scorned female or something.

Call it what you want I call it calling out your bullshit it's just you keep repeating your bullshit so I repeat calling you on it

lol You keep calling out the bullshit that I already admitted to and recanted. Basically, you're still whining about old shit. Either get off the rag or get out of the topic nigga.
 
5 Grand;c-9957336 said:
I gave Nas a 5 in all categories because I think he's the best MC Hip Hop has ever seen. And he has the catalog to prove it. You can make full length CDs of his unreleased material that would shit on 9 out of 10 rappers retail albums.

There is some fanboying in statements like that, man. lol You feel how you feel and that's cool, same for everyone else who posts. To say that Nas's throwaway tracks are better than 90% of the retail items from good rappers is hyperbole man. I got no problem with you saying it, but just recognize it's no different than them cats in the Pac topic saying he was one of the greatest rap storytellers ever.
 
The Lonious Monk;c-9957267 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957257 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-9957229 said:
GetoBoy;c-9957215 said:
I seen this coming..... Everybody in the other threads who rated a rapper high was called a stan but come in here and niggas handing out perfect scores and the stan or overrating words ain't been used one time yet smh

Anybody who made "Nas the GOAT, all 5s" posts has gotten ignored in here just like they did in every other topic. People aren't even debating whether or not he should get all 5s. They are providing actual arguments for why he should get his score raised in certain categories. The same thing happened in every other topic. Every other artist had their scores raised as a result of the debate. So I'm not doing anything different. And I have accused people of voting on bias in here. So stop with the woe is me, you're not being fair bullshit.

If you think he's being overrated, make an argument for why a score should be lowered. If you're just here to whine about the way the topics is being done, join @Soloman_The_Wise in kicking rocks.

Naw I'm just watching the inconsistencies I'ma let you cook..... I was called a stan and overrating for giving Jay 40 but niggas giving Nas 40+ and since you agree it's coo my problem from jump but I'ma sit back and watch

You were called a stan because you are a stan not because of your score, and because some of your arguments were bad. However, when I got past my personal bias against you, I admitted wrong and acknowledged that some of your arguments were good and raised the scores specifically because of things you said. So stop whining and claiming unfairness.

I don't even really pay attention to the scores given. The only thing I pay attention to is the arguments given for why baseline scores should be changed. The only scores I ever say are stanning or fanboying are the all 5s scores and I feel the same way about people in this thread that are doing that. So basically if you believe the Nas score is too high, make your argument, otherwise let it go. This is the fourth topic and you still carrying a grudge from the first one like a scorned female or something.

So how is he a stan if he's makin' valid points?
 

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