Rapper Ranking Project: Rapper #3 - Tupac

[5 Grand]

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but seriously, What stories does Tupac have besides Brenda's Got A Baby?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3. Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

 

[5 Grand]

I don't think people should change their scores. Just vote how you feel. If you think Pac is a 5 in storytelling (I don't see how thats possible) then give him a 5.

But out of curiosity, how does he get a 5 in storytelling?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but seriously, What stories does Tupac have besides Brenda's Got A Baby?

He doesn't have a lot. That's why I only gave him a 3. Just look at the songs his supporters keep throwing out. At best, only half of them are actually story tracks, and even out of that half, not all of them carry a narrative through the whole song. This topic has me thinking I have to rethink my stance. I thought Jay fans were the most rabid and unreasonable, but these Pac fans seem to be on another level. I give @GetoBoy a hard time about being a Jay fanboy and I admit I let my personal opinion on his fanboyism cloud my judgement, but he actually did make a good argument in the Jay topic. The Pac fanboys either dismiss arguments altogether in favor of showering him with praise or make up shit like with the story selection.

 

[GetoBoy]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3... Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

I really wise you could get this part but I see you really won't... Why would ppl debate with Sion if we all know his opinion ain't the one that matters???? Ppl wanna debate the person who holds the fate of the ratings and if that one person is you then that's who everybody gonna go debate with but if everybody knew it was just a avg score then ppl would debate each other becuz everybody would know their scores all count the same... Why would ppl argue with each other when you the sole controller of the scores ppl just gonna cut out the middle man and go straight to the top but again you not understanding that simple logic

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3... Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

I really wise you could get this part but I see you really won't... Why would ppl debate with Sion if we all know his opinion ain't the one that matters???? Ppl wanna debate the person who holds the fate of the ratings and if that one person is you then that's who everybody gonna go debate with but if everybody knew it was just a avg score then ppl would debate each other becuz everybody would know their scores all count the same... Why would ppl argue with each other when you the sole controller of the scores ppl just gonna cut out the middle man and go straight to the top but again you not understanding that simple logic

You're the one that's not getting it. If the bold works as I said, arguing with me wouldn't do anything. If you put your argument to me, and everyone voted you down, it doesn't matter what I think, your argument would be rejected. Again, the only reason I'm making decisions is because no one is voting. We're not talking about arguing with me vs arguing with everyone else. We're talking about posting an argument, that everyone can chime in on. Again, as I've said a million times, if the thread went as I wanted, I would have no input on the actual scoring after the baseline I posted. Past that, the only thing I would do is change the score based on the group consensus or point out when someone is not following the rules. You keep calling me the sole controller or dictator because I change the scores. That's like saying the court reporter has all the power because he or she records the court's findings.

 

[buttuh_b]

Teardrops and Closed Caskets

 

[5 Grand]

Teardrops and Closed Caskets

Thats it? People are giving Pac a 5 in storytelling for Brendas Got A Baby and Teardrops and Closed Caskets?

Slick Rick, Nas and Biggie have a handful of stories.

Biggie has more stories than Pac and Pac has twice as much material.

 

[GetoBoy]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3... Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

I really wise you could get this part but I see you really won't... Why would ppl debate with Sion if we all know his opinion ain't the one that matters???? Ppl wanna debate the person who holds the fate of the ratings and if that one person is you then that's who everybody gonna go debate with but if everybody knew it was just a avg score then ppl would debate each other becuz everybody would know their scores all count the same... Why would ppl argue with each other when you the sole controller of the scores ppl just gonna cut out the middle man and go straight to the top but again you not understanding that simple logic

You're the one that's not getting it. If the bold works as I said, arguing with me wouldn't do anything. If you put your argument to me, and everyone voted you down, it doesn't matter what I think, your argument would be rejected. Again, the only reason I'm making decisions is because no one is voting. We're not talking about arguing with me vs arguing with everyone else. We're talking about posting an argument, that everyone can chime in on. Again, as I've said a million times, if the thread went as I wanted, I would have no input on the actual scoring after the baseline I posted. Past that, the only thing I would do is change the score based on the group consensus or point out when someone is not following the rules. You keep calling me the sole controller or dictator because I change the scores. That's like saying the court reporter has all the power because he or she records the court's findings.

The court reporter doesn't rule on a case smmfh.... Aight man this is pointless you not getting it you keep saying what you wanted it to do and I'm telling you why it didn't work that way and you keep repeating what you wanted it to do... I get it you wanted everyone to debate among each other and you just sit back observe and rate based on what we being said I GET IT but you not getting it.... Once you made your rating and ppl seen that you control the ratings then everybody became more concerned with your rating then making their own becuz your rating is the one that matters you not getting it..... I get what you wanted to happen I'm telling you as long as you were the sole controller why it was never gonna happen only way it would have happened is if you didn't give a rating at all and just watched what ppl said but once you started out with yours you set the narrative becuz now your rating is what ppl are concentrated on

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Teardrops and Closed Caskets

That's a legit story. But be real, is that story any more creative or better told than this:


Trick Daddy ain't a great storyteller, but he's got a few good one under his belt too. Some people think I'm saying Pac can't tell stories by giving him a 3. That's not the case. It just means that when it comes to storytelling, he's not better than a lot of good rappers. Ironically the song posted is influenced by Pac. lol

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3... Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

I really wise you could get this part but I see you really won't... Why would ppl debate with Sion if we all know his opinion ain't the one that matters???? Ppl wanna debate the person who holds the fate of the ratings and if that one person is you then that's who everybody gonna go debate with but if everybody knew it was just a avg score then ppl would debate each other becuz everybody would know their scores all count the same... Why would ppl argue with each other when you the sole controller of the scores ppl just gonna cut out the middle man and go straight to the top but again you not understanding that simple logic

You're the one that's not getting it. If the bold works as I said, arguing with me wouldn't do anything. If you put your argument to me, and everyone voted you down, it doesn't matter what I think, your argument would be rejected. Again, the only reason I'm making decisions is because no one is voting. We're not talking about arguing with me vs arguing with everyone else. We're talking about posting an argument, that everyone can chime in on. Again, as I've said a million times, if the thread went as I wanted, I would have no input on the actual scoring after the baseline I posted. Past that, the only thing I would do is change the score based on the group consensus or point out when someone is not following the rules. You keep calling me the sole controller or dictator because I change the scores. That's like saying the court reporter has all the power because he or she records the court's findings.

The court reporter doesn't rule on a case smmfh.... Aight man this is pointless you not getting it you keep saying what you wanted it to do and I'm telling you why it didn't work that way and you keep repeating what you wanted it to do... I get it you wanted everyone to debate among each other and you just sit back observe and rate based on what we being said I GET IT but you not getting it.... Once you made your rating and ppl seen that you control the ratings then everybody became more concerned with your rating then making their own becuz your rating is the one that matters you not getting it..... I get what you wanted to happen I'm telling you as long as you were the sole controller why it was never gonna happen only way it would have happened is if you didn't give a rating at all and just watched what ppl said but once you started out with yours you set the narrative becuz now your rating is what ppl are concentrated on

And I wouldn't be deciding the case either, genius. I'd just be recording what the group decided just like a court reporter.

You keep on saying I'm not getting something. I just don't agree with you dude. You just don't seem to understand that. The topic didn't work because people didn't really want to bother with the rules. They just wanted to post their scores. It's really that simple. There are a few people, you being the primary one, that don't like how I was doing things and wanted to weigh the topics down with your disapproval of the methodology rather than just trying to participate at the thread was designed. But your feelings don't represent the majority in here. You got like 2 or 3 people that are saying what you're saying, but many more have contributed and let it be. Like I said, if you and Sion want to take over and do it your way, be my guest. But stop bloating yourself up to be something you're not. You aren't explaining shit to me other than your own problem with what I was doing.

 

[buttuh_b]

Nah, Pac is definitely an excellent story teller. Yall tripping

 

[5 Grand]

Nah, Pac is definitely an excellent story teller. Yall tripping

So name some stories he told

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Nah, Pac is definitely an excellent story teller. Yall tripping

No one saying he's not. He just doesn't rate as highly as other based on the established set of characteristics. Again, getting a 3 does not mean you aren't a good storyteller.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Nah, Pac is definitely an excellent story teller. Yall tripping

So name some stories he told

Other that's not mentioned

Violent

Soulja story

Dopefiends diner

16 on death row

Case of the missing mic

Wonder why they call you bitch

But none really stacks up the other legends stories

 

[buttuh_b]

He just tells a story in different way but it's still just as vivid in my head when I listen. Pac's storytelling >>> Biggie... Only rappers who are better at this to me are Nas and Ghostface

 

[The Lonious Monk]

He just tells a story in different way but it's still just as vivid in my head when I listen. Pac's storytelling >>> Biggie... Only rappers who are better at this to me are Nas and Ghostface

I think the confusion here is why he gets a lower score. It's not because he doesn't tell stories as well as Biggie or others when he does. It's because relevant to the vast amount of songs he has out there, stories don't really make up a very big percentage. The subject matter is pretty limited (just like with Biggie although not quite as bad). And his stories are pretty standard. He doesn't really take many chances with the subject matter or method of delivery. That's why I gave him a 3. His stories are great, but when you take his body of work and compare it to that of a truly great storyteller like Nas or Ghost, it doesn't really measure up.

 

[buttuh_b]

He just tells a story in different way but it's still just as vivid in my head when I listen. Pac's storytelling >>> Biggie... Only rappers who are better at this to me are Nas and Ghostface

I think the confusion here is why he gets a lower score. It's not because he doesn't tell stories as well as Biggie or others when he does. It's because relevant to the vast amount of songs he has out there, stories don't really make up a very big percentage. The subject matter is pretty limited (just like with Biggie although not quite as bad). And his stories are pretty standard. He doesn't really take many chances with the subject matter or method of delivery. That's why I gave him a 3. His stories are great, but when you take his body of work and compare it to that of a truly great storyteller like Nas or Ghost, it doesn't really measure up.

What are you talking about? There's storytelling in mostly all his songs. Tupac and limited subject matter don't go together

 

[GetoBoy]

I think you confusing me saying it's not objective.... I believe your initial ratings are you being objective but your overall ratings aren't objective becuz none of them are you pulling your own personal feelings out is my point.... If you say Pac is a 3 story teller and EVERYBODY tells you he's a 5 so you say "ok I'll give y'all 4" and leave that as your final rating that's not an objective rating becuz you still had to have your personal feelings apart of it and only wanted to meet in the middle if everybody telling you that you wrong an objective rating would be to give him a 5 that's why having one person can't work becuz when it's just one person 9 times outta 10 they always gonna wanna still have their way some kinda way whether they're right or wrong

I get what you're saying here, but that's not how any of these topics have gone down. First of all, there was never any "everybody" saying anything. Even in this topic. Not everyone is saying Pac gets a 5 for storytelling. Only 2 or 3 people are saying that and 2 or 3 people are saying the exact opposite. Second, every request for a score change has to be backed by solid reasoning. Again, if there are three things noted that keep Pac from being a 5 and someone makes a good argument that covers one of those things, that's not going to jump him up to a 5. How much it jumps is subjective though, which is why I always ask if everyone agrees with how much I'm going to adjust in response to the argument. No one ever comments in response. When I've said, "I'm going to raise this score .5, what do ya'll think?" No one responded. So what else do you want me to do?

And I know how it's SUPPOSE to work you just don't understand why it will never work the way you want it to which I tried to tell you when you first started and that's becuz when everybody knows only one person makes all the decisions who you think they all gonna wanna debate??? That one person so your threads will just turn into everybody tryna convince you becuz we all know your opinion is the only one that counts...... There's a reason why courts don't let judges see the appeals to their rulings even if their ruling are objective the appeal won't be becuz you not gonna be able to 100% take your personal feelings away from your initial ruling and make a neural judgement smh

That makes no sense because if the topic worked the way I intended, I wouldn't be making any decisions at all. Say may score for Pac in Storytelling is a 3... Now say Sion came in and said it should be a 4 and provided his argument. The way the thread is supposed to work is that if there are 12 people in here taking part, then all 12 would use their reactions to vote on Sion's motion. If the majority agreed with his argument, then I would change the score. In other words, like I keep telling you, I'm not supposed to be making any decisions at all. So your reasoning for why it would work makes no sense. The reason it's not working is that people don't really want to do anything that systematic. People really just want to post their scores and have those scores counted towards the end result somehow. And that's fine, it's just not what I was trying to accomplish here.

I really wise you could get this part but I see you really won't... Why would ppl debate with Sion if we all know his opinion ain't the one that matters???? Ppl wanna debate the person who holds the fate of the ratings and if that one person is you then that's who everybody gonna go debate with but if everybody knew it was just a avg score then ppl would debate each other becuz everybody would know their scores all count the same... Why would ppl argue with each other when you the sole controller of the scores ppl just gonna cut out the middle man and go straight to the top but again you not understanding that simple logic

You're the one that's not getting it. If the bold works as I said, arguing with me wouldn't do anything. If you put your argument to me, and everyone voted you down, it doesn't matter what I think, your argument would be rejected. Again, the only reason I'm making decisions is because no one is voting. We're not talking about arguing with me vs arguing with everyone else. We're talking about posting an argument, that everyone can chime in on. Again, as I've said a million times, if the thread went as I wanted, I would have no input on the actual scoring after the baseline I posted. Past that, the only thing I would do is change the score based on the group consensus or point out when someone is not following the rules. You keep calling me the sole controller or dictator because I change the scores. That's like saying the court reporter has all the power because he or she records the court's findings.

The court reporter doesn't rule on a case smmfh.... Aight man this is pointless you not getting it you keep saying what you wanted it to do and I'm telling you why it didn't work that way and you keep repeating what you wanted it to do... I get it you wanted everyone to debate among each other and you just sit back observe and rate based on what we being said I GET IT but you not getting it.... Once you made your rating and ppl seen that you control the ratings then everybody became more concerned with your rating then making their own becuz your rating is the one that matters you not getting it..... I get what you wanted to happen I'm telling you as long as you were the sole controller why it was never gonna happen only way it would have happened is if you didn't give a rating at all and just watched what ppl said but once you started out with yours you set the narrative becuz now your rating is what ppl are concentrated on

And I wouldn't be deciding the case either, genius. I'd just be recording what the group decided just like a court reporter.

You keep on saying I'm not getting something. I just don't agree with you dude. You just don't seem to understand that. The topic didn't work because people didn't really want to bother with the rules. They just wanted to post their scores. It's really that simple. There are a few people, you being the primary one, that don't like how I was doing things and wanted to weigh the topics down with your disapproval of the methodology rather than just trying to participate at the thread was designed. But your feelings don't represent the majority in here. You got like 2 or 3 people that are saying what you're saying, but many more have contributed and let it be. Like I said, if you and Sion want to take over and do it your way, be my guest. But stop bloating yourself up to be something you're not. You aren't explaining shit to me other than your own problem with what I was doing.

Fool how would you only be reporting if you literally give out the FIRST judgment and then you go from there that's how I know you don't know what you talking about you not just reporting you making decisions something a damn court reporter doesn't do a court reporter can't say someone is guilty or dish out time but you can change a rating to your liking.... That was a horrible analogy but do you bruh let's just all keep going back and forth with you about why your ratings are right or wrong becuz that's how we'll get an objective rating going back and forth with the person that controls what the ratings will look like on the end smh..... Gone head and cook

 

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Nas and Biggie are better storytellers. I'd give them a 5.

I THINK CUBE IS A BETTER STORYTELLER AS WELL

Cube is better than both of them.