Rapper Ranking Project: Rapper #1 - Jay-Z

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

I really dont see a case for jay taking on whatever style of rap is popular at the time

He tends to stay in his own lane

Works with the same producers for the most part

Can u give examples

 

[GetoBoy]

Yall as fans shouldn't have to over force his dominance

Yall act like how the IC goes the rap game goes like

dude's career depends on yall's over excessive stanning

it's like beating a dead horse

just let shit be and open your mind up to the idea of other music dude

voice that you aint gotta stan Jay-Z every 20 minutes it's disgusting

They don't do this on other rap websites the reason is notorious ....

You come in here the place is practically dead ... could it be the over stanning

like I said u can like dude but just keep it to yourself a lil more often

you can't make 1000 j-z posts a month that's over saturation .....

Nigga wtf is you talking about ain't you got sum KB Kidnappa thread to attend to somewhere or something

 

[Nechesh358]

Jay got story telling...meet the parents is one of the goat stories in hiphop

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Naw it's definitely feelings with you becuz instead of just excepting my reasoning as my reasoning and moving on you decided to try and clown my reasoning as sum stan shit only to reflect on it and realize I was right..... pull your skirt down and toughen up becuz if this how you gonna act for this whole series you tryna do you gonna have a lot more egg on face moments lol

You got it all out now? Go get some Jay juice and run along now lil man.

T/s

Jay is a good to great story teller

Momma loves me

Meet the Parents

Friend or Foe

A week Ago

I Know

Fallen

Soon You’ll Understand

D'evils

Song Cry

Edit: 3 is fair... I'd maybe give him a 3.5

Think the aforementioned songs are also a good basis to boost his creativity score a notch

Aight, I'll listen to the songs now with an open mind. A 3.5 might be warranted.

I really dont see a case for jay taking on whatever style of rap is popular at the time

He tends to stay in his own lane

Works with the same producers for the most part

Can u give examples

What is his lane though? It always seems to align with what's popular. When it was Mafioso rap, that's what he did. Granted, with the Life and Times albums, he did seem to carve out his own niche. However, he moved on. When the South started to rise, he made sure to jump on tracks with Southern artists to the point that people acted like he was the reason those artists were hot. When Hipster rap was catching on, that's what he was doing. Now when you got more conscious rapper trying to battle back against the mumble crap, he drops 4:44.

I'm not trying to call him a biter, but he does seem to ride trends a bit. I think that's part of the reason he's stayed relevant, because he can actually ride those trends believably.

 

[KamPushMe]

Thought this thread series was gonna be lit. Just lock this shit up

 

[GetoBoy]

Naw it's definitely feelings with you becuz instead of just excepting my reasoning as my reasoning and moving on you decided to try and clown my reasoning as sum stan shit only to reflect on it and realize I was right..... pull your skirt down and toughen up becuz if this how you gonna act for this whole series you tryna do you gonna have a lot more egg on face moments lol

You got it all out now? Go get some Jay juice and run along now lil man.

T/s

Jay is a good to great story teller

Momma loves me

Meet the Parents

Friend or Foe

A week Ago

I Know

Fallen

Soon You’ll Understand

D'evils

Song Cry

Edit: 3 is fair... I'd maybe give him a 3.5

Think the aforementioned songs are also a good basis to boost his creativity score a notch

Aight, I'll listen to the songs now with an open mind. A 3.5 might be warranted.

I really dont see a case for jay taking on whatever style of rap is popular at the time

He tends to stay in his own lane

Works with the same producers for the most part

Can u give examples

What is his lane though? It always seems to align with what's popular. When it was Mafioso rap, that's what he did. Granted, with the Life and Times albums, he did seem to carve out his own niche. However, he moved on. When the South started to rise, he made sure to jump on tracks with Southern artists to the point that people acted like he was the reason those artists were hot. When Hipster rap was catching on, that's what he was doing. Now when you got more conscious rapper trying to battle back against the mumble crap, he drops 4:44.

I'm not trying to call him a biter, but he does seem to ride trends a bit. I think that's part of the reason he's stayed relevant, because he can actually ride those trends believably.

Jay juice??? That's the corny stuff you came up with??? Lol aight man you must be on your period or something so I'ma let you cook

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Thought this thread series was gonna be lit. Just lock this shit up

We've had a lot of Jay topics. I think people may be tapped out on discussing him. I'll probably just do the Biggie one sooner than expected. I'm listening to the songs @Madame_CJSkywalker suggested right now to see if I need to push that storytelling score up.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

Naw it's definitely feelings with you becuz instead of just excepting my reasoning as my reasoning and moving on you decided to try and clown my reasoning as sum stan shit only to reflect on it and realize I was right..... pull your skirt down and toughen up becuz if this how you gonna act for this whole series you tryna do you gonna have a lot more egg on face moments lol

You got it all out now? Go get some Jay juice and run along now lil man.

T/s

Jay is a good to great story teller

Momma loves me

Meet the Parents

Friend or Foe

A week Ago

I Know

Fallen

Soon You’ll Understand

D'evils

Song Cry

Edit: 3 is fair... I'd maybe give him a 3.5

Think the aforementioned songs are also a good basis to boost his creativity score a notch

Aight, I'll listen to the songs now with an open mind. A 3.5 might be warranted.

I really dont see a case for jay taking on whatever style of rap is popular at the time

He tends to stay in his own lane

Works with the same producers for the most part

Can u give examples

What is his lane though? It always seems to align with what's popular. When it was Mafioso rap, that's what he did. Granted, with the Life and Times albums, he did seem to carve out his own niche. However, he moved on. When the South started to rise, he made sure to jump on tracks with Southern artists to the point that people acted like he was the reason those artists were hot. When Hipster rap was catching on, that's what he was doing. Now when you got more conscious rapper trying to battle back against the mumble crap, he drops 4:44.

I'm not trying to call him a biter, but he does seem to ride trends a bit. I think that's part of the reason he's stayed relevant, because he can actually ride those trends believably.

Lol

Examples

And what eaxctly is hipster rap?

4:44 was introspective but to say it was conscious rap is a stretch

Jay did some work with UGK, Jeezy and a few other southern but to say he was taking on their style of rap or riding a trend is a reach

His lane? Mafioso, coke raps

He's never really deviated too far

Otherwise we know he was influenced by big, nas, etc

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Naw it's definitely feelings with you becuz instead of just excepting my reasoning as my reasoning and moving on you decided to try and clown my reasoning as sum stan shit only to reflect on it and realize I was right..... pull your skirt down and toughen up becuz if this how you gonna act for this whole series you tryna do you gonna have a lot more egg on face moments lol

You got it all out now? Go get some Jay juice and run along now lil man.

T/s

Jay is a good to great story teller

Momma loves me

Meet the Parents

Friend or Foe

A week Ago

I Know

Fallen

Soon You’ll Understand

D'evils

Song Cry

Edit: 3 is fair... I'd maybe give him a 3.5

Think the aforementioned songs are also a good basis to boost his creativity score a notch

Aight, I'll listen to the songs now with an open mind. A 3.5 might be warranted.

I really dont see a case for jay taking on whatever style of rap is popular at the time

He tends to stay in his own lane

Works with the same producers for the most part

Can u give examples

What is his lane though? It always seems to align with what's popular. When it was Mafioso rap, that's what he did. Granted, with the Life and Times albums, he did seem to carve out his own niche. However, he moved on. When the South started to rise, he made sure to jump on tracks with Southern artists to the point that people acted like he was the reason those artists were hot. When Hipster rap was catching on, that's what he was doing. Now when you got more conscious rapper trying to battle back against the mumble crap, he drops 4:44.

I'm not trying to call him a biter, but he does seem to ride trends a bit. I think that's part of the reason he's stayed relevant, because he can actually ride those trends believably.

Lol

Examples

And what eaxctly is hipster rap?

4:44 was introspective but to say it was conscious rap is a stretch

Jay did some work with UGK, Jeezy and a few other southern but to say he was taking on their style of rap or riding a trend is a reach

His lane? Mafioso, coke raps

He's never really deviated too far

Otherwise we know he was influenced by big, nas, etc

Whatever you want to call that phase that Kanye and other artists went through where they were making supposedly artistic albums but it was really just bullshit. People usually associate that Magna Carter album with that. Call it what you want too.

I didn't say he was taking southern rap styles, but he made sure to associate himself more with Southern artists when they caught a buzz. He wasn't really one of the few NYC artists working with them prior to that.

He's always had songs about drug dealing, but he didn't really go RD deep with it again until AG. Outside of that, it was just general hustler/shotcaller/balla type music whether it be about drugs, the music business, or whatever endeavor he wanted to address.

Anyways. I'm still torn on the storytelling. I forgot how good Meet the Parents was. He's definitely a dope storyteller, but still that's a pretty small portion of his overall catalog. I'll bump the Storytelling score up to 3.5. I'll also bump his Creativity score up to 2.5 since a couple of those stories are more clever than I gave him credit for. And if nobody has any other major issues, I'll move on to Big.

 

[270crownst]

I'm curious to see BIG score

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Jay Final Score: 36.5

A little higher than my initial score, but I believe its fair. On to BIG.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

waiting for Like Water to come in here like a lil whiney b and say lock this shit up

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Yo I searched Young Buck on the reason and didn't see the topic covered where he goes off on j-z

If your gonna cover the positive you should have fair coverage when it's not so positive

You can't be lil girls and close every thread cuz it doesn't reflect how you like on j-z

You gotta take the good with the bad and be a man about it not act like a lil kid talk shit then lock up a thread

cuz your lil pissy feelings got hurt be a man about this shit ... it aint the end of the word

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Stop crying cuz shit wasn't published that day spoiled lil brats ... really just trying to find something to b at

ofcourse I would of saw the young buck thread if someone would of made it

but yall aint posting the shit cuz it don't reflect the way you like

so i find it later on when i run across it ... big freaking deal the main problem is you act like girls when it comes to j-z wanna lock shit up and everything .... that's the only reason your pissed and whining

 

[Nah Son]

somebody ban this unstable faggot man

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Yo I searched Young Buck on the reason and didn't see the topic covered where he goes off on j-z

If your gonna cover the positive you should have fair coverage when it's not so positive

You can't be lil girls and close every thread cuz it doesn't reflect how you like on j-z

You gotta take the good with the bad and be a man about it not act like a lil kid talk shit then lock up a thread

cuz your lil pissy feelings got hurt be a man about this shit ... it aint the end of the word

Buck was playing around you idiot

 

[Ear2DaSt]

No he wasn't

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Im not gonna go to a shit on j-z tirade but he has been dissed by his fair share of rappers

dang 50 Cent calling his rap golf music ...

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Yo he may of said it in a playful way but he meant what he said

He is older had plenty of time to shine and eat

Now they want their chance cuz as long as j-z drop

they are dog food ....

 

[5 Grand]

all the stuff happening and the arguments can be significantly reduced if we created that Categorical Standards sticky, and then use the sticky to reference or build arguments. so it becomes more objective. otherwise its just everyone stating their favorite, without really having anything to compare and contrast.

each category needs at least five songs to be referenced to explain or use for judging against. like if "I've Got A Story to Tell" is one, then maybe number two could be Slick Rick "Children's Story," "I Used to Love H.E.R." could be another storytelling standard, "Lodi Dodi," by Snoop Dogg can be another one, "Da Art of Storytellin" by Outkast.

and judge accordingly. but for each category. but what is considered a classic or level 5 should be established prior in that stickied thread.

Sorry dude but Ladi Dadi was originally recorded by Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick.

Using Lodi Dodi by Snoop Dogg as a storytelling standard means you don't know what you're talking about.