DOPEdweebz
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Jamaica;5877133 said:
People forget to add shit like that in the mix.
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People forget to add shit like that in the mix.
IamNumberOne
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horrible hated how they made him unstoppable even in wcw even tho i didn't watch that much...but his skills in the ring sucked ass smh
Colin$mackabi$h
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niggas hate Goldberg? the hell? I think vince fucked up his character in wwe
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How did Vince fuck up Goldberg though? Goldberg came into the company feuding with The Rock and feuded with only main event players during his entire tenure.
Goldberg is one dimensional, That's not Vince's fault. He has a limited skill set and Vince tried to work within it, the only real mistake Vince made was booking that Elimination Chamber for Summerslam. Goldberg had opportunities to make the run memorable but he didnt.
Goldberg is one dimensional, That's not Vince's fault. He has a limited skill set and Vince tried to work within it, the only real mistake Vince made was booking that Elimination Chamber for Summerslam. Goldberg had opportunities to make the run memorable but he didnt.
jono;5957203 said:
That I don't know. I had stopped watching wrestling by that point and never followed any of it at all especially since I never cared for Goldberg anyway. With that said I remember how Goldberg the character was always booked like a god and that was his appeal to his fans. This is why he was a threat to Austin popularity wise back in 1998. From what I heard about his WWE run Vince didn't know how to book him like he was booked in WCW at all & Trips legitimately disliked him so that probably was another factor to his suspect booking. From what history has shown us (Ie: The Invasion) Vince also doesn't mind derailing anything he didn't have a hand in creating any further.
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TRILLip Brooks
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Goldberg is the DMX of wrestling
Sour-Cream
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WWE tried to kill his image. That match with Brock was his worst match but I can't blame Goldberg because WWE likes to pair powerhouse match ups with the WOAT 20 min square ups. If they fought in WCW or ECW, that match would have been a GOAT back and forth.
If you look at Goldberg's matches with Michaels, HHH, Edge, Kane, Rosey, Rock, Batista, Hell in the Cell, he showed he can fight technical wrestlers and hold an entertaining match plus people that booed him prior to him joining were rooting so he was bringing in a larger fanbase despite WWE's dislike towards him.
If you look at Goldberg's matches with Michaels, HHH, Edge, Kane, Rosey, Rock, Batista, Hell in the Cell, he showed he can fight technical wrestlers and hold an entertaining match plus people that booed him prior to him joining were rooting so he was bringing in a larger fanbase despite WWE's dislike towards him.
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Mr. Rich Pryor
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da whole run wuz doo doo butta! except fo da fued wit jericho.
vince wuz doin his thang tryin to kill anotha wcw wrestler career in wwe cause it wasnt his creation!
the best run for goldberg wuz da streak before it got royally fucked by nashhole's shitty bookin!
vince wuz doin his thang tryin to kill anotha wcw wrestler career in wwe cause it wasnt his creation!
the best run for goldberg wuz da streak before it got royally fucked by nashhole's shitty bookin!
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Sour;6005527 said:
How? I keep seeing people say stuff like that over and over again but no examples. What specifically did they do to harm Goldberg?
I mean they put him over Rock in his FIRST MATCH! He went over Lesnar (a star hand picked and groomed since day 1) in his LAST MATCH. Goldberg only lost like 2 matches the whole run B.
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jono;6005667 said:
They limited him from using all his abilities. They slowed him down. One thing Goldberg has as a powerhouse is speed but when he entered WWE, they slowed him down to their standards they had him crawling on the mat too much over kiddie moves that in the WCW that wouldn't stop him. If you take a look at that match with Lesnar, they had him squaring up going back and forth for a good 20 min instead of letting them wrestling and use their best. Vince knew what he was doing. When Goldberg fought Nash, Sid Vicious, Bam Bam Bigelow, he wasn't crawling on the mat for 90 minutes off a clothesline or squaring off bouncing off the ropes trying to see who can knock who down with power, it was a straight up match. That powerhouse crap is what made WWE trash when it came to heavyweight matches. That's why I liked WCW better wrestling wise but WWE had better storylines and stables. DX, Rock and Austin in the attitude era was funny as hell but overall the wrestling was not matching up with Booker T, Scott Steiner, Bret, Hogan, Kidman, Guerrero, Malenko and Goldberg in WCW. Them dudes were way better in WCW. I'll give you another example and say look what WWE did to Tazz. Dude went from a beast to a teddy bear commentator. I can understand WWE being scared of injuries and going the technical route but give the fans what they want. They had rated R storylines and PG wrestling, now they have PG storylines and PG wrestling which is what kills it along with this.
Taz we can agree on, what Vince did to him was criminal.
I think making Goldberg sell more actually added to him. It's already been established that He was strong and tough, no then it had to be established that he has vulnerabilities too, there's no where for him to go by plowing through opponents the way he did in WCW (where he eventually ran his course after winning the title).
You can't think Vince let's a guy go trough all his main event talent in 1 year because he was great for 1 year in WCW. Goldberg had a main event run in WWE with damn neat no undercard matches (even his match with Jericho made the marquee).
All those guys he had to sell for everyone would have had to sell for, so I don't see how he got singled out and ruined.
As far as him being slowed down, you have a point but he had to work longer matches too, he also had to do more in-ring psychology (thus more selling). That stuff takes time to develop.
Vince ruined quite a few guys and tried to ruin others but Goldberg wasnt one of those. I mean they did more damage to Booker T than they did to Goldberg.
I think making Goldberg sell more actually added to him. It's already been established that He was strong and tough, no then it had to be established that he has vulnerabilities too, there's no where for him to go by plowing through opponents the way he did in WCW (where he eventually ran his course after winning the title).
You can't think Vince let's a guy go trough all his main event talent in 1 year because he was great for 1 year in WCW. Goldberg had a main event run in WWE with damn neat no undercard matches (even his match with Jericho made the marquee).
All those guys he had to sell for everyone would have had to sell for, so I don't see how he got singled out and ruined.
As far as him being slowed down, you have a point but he had to work longer matches too, he also had to do more in-ring psychology (thus more selling). That stuff takes time to develop.
Vince ruined quite a few guys and tried to ruin others but Goldberg wasnt one of those. I mean they did more damage to Booker T than they did to Goldberg.
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jono;6006343 said:
Vince ruins every African American wrestler that has no lineage or family in the WWE.
But na, Goldberg has held longer matches in WCW and had great matches against great opponents i.e. Bret Hart. WWE watered him down by making him fake vulnerabilities that in WCW wouldn't have affected him. Bret Hart and Kevin Nash have done more damage to Goldberg than Evolution hitting him with a chair in the leg. That in ring psychology is cool and all but it doesn't work for all wrestlers and that's where they kill wrestling. Some wrestlers should use it and some shouldn't. For one, Hogan, Cena, Austin, Rock, HBK never used it but yet they wanted Goldberg to follow those guidelines instead of letting him be himself thus limiting him. They use to humiliate Booker T and make him look like a coon and Austin's bitch having that redneck stun him and HBK superkick him out of DX. WWE is racist where WCW, ECW, TNA are equal opportunist unfortunately. If a black man with Cena's size, talent and skill entered WWE he would never get the rep that Cena has now which is why I don't like that dude.
I don't see it. Goldberg's angles were fine. The ankle chair spot was done by Steve Austin on Brian Pillman in '97. The idea was to weaken Goldberg for HHH, so that was part of the plan and he went over HHH with the kayfabe injured leg, so I don't get it. He played a typical WWE face, same as Brock Lesnar, Big Show, Hogan etc.
WWE's millions were made off of creating situations where the faces had to "overcome the odds" and win. That's the scheme they used 99% of the time
WWE's millions were made off of creating situations where the faces had to "overcome the odds" and win. That's the scheme they used 99% of the time
Vader_F_Kennedy
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Speaking of power houses..what did yall think a bobby lashley
Sour-Cream
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He was better in TNA, dude had the GOAT submission move. Wasn't really feeling him in WWE though.
PILL_COSBY
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damobb2deep;5874089 said:
Check this out 90's baby.
Raven and his flock, The I.R.S, ricky the dragoon steanboat, road worriers, mick foley, abdula the butcher, stone cold, bran pillman and some others I can't remember right now.
