(Nope);7956964 said:
I am not ignorant of anything important I don't like liberalism I simply reject the current ideology that governs the land. I know rand paul hired someone he should not have but so the fuck what I hire people I don't always look deeply into their background. There is no proof that paul knew that guy was a white supremacist
kingblaze84
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zombie;7956747 said:
I'm evil because I believe there are circumstances in which late term abortions are okay? LOL yeah okay.
Some people can't get early abortions in the case of rape and incest because they don't have the money to get one until it's late in the pregnancy. And we agree late term abortions for health problems are reasonable, so what's the big deal.
Abortion and taking antibiotics (killing hundreds of life forms) aren't too far off from each other, EITHER WAY, a life is gonna be taken away. You just value one part of life over another but I'm not gonna press this issue because in the end, I don't support late term abortions in just any case. Has to be certain circumstances.
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kingblaze84
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(Nope);7956807 said:
Aqua Buddha boy has ties to a white supremacist.......?
kingblaze84;7957107 said:
In what circumstances besides health issues should we allow the abortion of a 8 month old fetus????? I mean really think about it how many rape victims are waiting for 8 months before they get an abortion. Foh there is little next to no excuse for a late term abortion.
late in the pregnancy my ass an abortion is about 250 dollars
so an abortion= taking antibiotics???? yeah you are evil know I understand you fully
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zombie;7957177 said:
LOL yes Ms. Cleo, I'm the most evil person alive. I eat babies and I'm a vampire. The FBI knows me as Count Chocula.
An abortion is $250 maybe on avg but believe it or not, not everyone has money like that to spend. We do but a whole lot of others out there don't. Some people don't even know they're pregnant until very late in the pregnancy, especially those who are already fat. So in cases of rape and incest, and health, I'm pro-choice all the way late term wise. But if a woman is NOT under those circumstances, then I'm for letting states make up their own mind on the decision. You don't have to like my antibiotic example, maybe it was insensitive, but we kill living things all the time with soap and pills and don't blink an eye.
Human life is sacred true, but I don't believe anyone has the right to tell a woman what to do with HER body. Just like I can't tell Mother Nature to stop its hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, and earthquakes. You know, those things that often kill human beings?? You must think god to be very evil for creating those things ; )
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kingblaze84;7957427 said:zombie;7957177 said:
LOL yes Ms. Cleo, I'm the most evil person alive. I eat babies and I'm a vampire. The FBI knows me as Count Chocula.
An abortion is $250 maybe on avg but believe it or not, not everyone has money like that to spend. We do but a whole lot of others out there don't. Some people don't even know they're pregnant until very late in the pregnancy, especially those who are already fat. So in cases of rape and incest, and health, I'm pro-choice all the way late term wise. But if a woman is NOT under those circumstances, then I'm for letting states make up their own mind on the decision. You don't have to like my antibiotic example, maybe it was insensitive, but we kill living things all the time with soap and pills and don't blink an eye.
Human life is sacred true, but I don't believe anyone has the right to tell a woman what to do with HER body. Just like I can't tell Mother Nature to stop its hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, and earthquakes. You know, those things that often kill human beings?? You must think god to be very evil for creating those things ; )
You are not the most evil but you are still a horrible human being for supporting late term abortions You are making jokes about it but if you could support the killing of a fully functioning baby what else do you expect me to call you accept evil. God is god and to him the soul is what is important from his perspective those natural things like earthquakes don't kill us to begin with
AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT 250 is not a large amount of money at all that's a pair of foamposites and these same bitches you claim to be soooooo poor spend more than that getting their weave and nails done. So I don't want to hear no bullshit about them not being able to afford 250 there is no excuse except there own foolish irresponsibility.
at 7 months it's no longer just her fucking body.
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Rand Paul has close ties with Alex Jones and other right wing militia groups. His pops was a racist and libertarians are closet racist. They believe that the civil rights act was govt over reach Rand Paul doesnt care about black folk. He just wants our votes.
PapaDoc223;7958374 said:
yeah that's bullshit if a can call myself an adherent to any political philosophy it would be libertarism and I love black folk.
There are racist liberals, racist conservatives and racist libertarians discounting a political philosophy on the basis that some of it's followers are racist is childish and there are problems with the civil rights act but over time people have begun to believe that it was the perfect piece of legislation which it is not,
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zombie;7957510 said:kingblaze84;7957427 said:zombie;7957177 said:
LOL yes Ms. Cleo, I'm the most evil person alive. I eat babies and I'm a vampire. The FBI knows me as Count Chocula.
An abortion is $250 maybe on avg but believe it or not, not everyone has money like that to spend. We do but a whole lot of others out there don't. Some people don't even know they're pregnant until very late in the pregnancy, especially those who are already fat. So in cases of rape and incest, and health, I'm pro-choice all the way late term wise. But if a woman is NOT under those circumstances, then I'm for letting states make up their own mind on the decision. You don't have to like my antibiotic example, maybe it was insensitive, but we kill living things all the time with soap and pills and don't blink an eye.
Human life is sacred true, but I don't believe anyone has the right to tell a woman what to do with HER body. Just like I can't tell Mother Nature to stop its hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, and earthquakes. You know, those things that often kill human beings?? You must think god to be very evil for creating those things ; )
You are not the most evil but you are still a horrible human being for supporting late term abortions You are making jokes about it but if you could support the killing of a fully functioning baby what else do you expect me to call you accept evil. God is god and to him the soul is what is important from his perspective those natural things like earthquakes don't kill us to begin with
AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT 250 is not a large amount of money at all that's a pair of foamposites and these same bitches you claim to be soooooo poor spend more than that getting their weave and nails done. So I don't want to hear no bullshit about them not being able to afford 250 there is no excuse except there own foolish irresponsibility.
at 7 months it's no longer just her fucking body.
Not everyone has $250 to spend on an early abortion, you forgot some women are unemployed??? You live in NYC, so you should see the many people out there holding signs these days saying they're hungry and homeless. And yes, some homeless women get raped. I don't want little girls or anyone in general who is broke to be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy, especially if it was against their will. If it means it happening at 7 months into the pregnancy, so be it.
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janklow;7958368 said:
Maybe it's "unrealistic" that he will end or stop abortions but with a Republican Senate in charge AND him dodging questions on the subject, he needs to go on record and say he will NOT appoint Supreme Court judges who are not pro-choice. When he says these things publicly, people like myself will not be as alarmed and I'll cut him some slack.
With that being said, some people here are also saying Rand Paul has connects to a white supremacist, so that's not helping his case either.
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kingblaze84;7959452 said:
Are you going to have an abortion fam? Is your girl up in the air with a subject you want her to kill the babe? I ask because again the subject is strawman and unless it is directly affecting your life I give less then a fuck if a Judge is Pro choice or not. My bigger concern are they pro sense and liberty are they going to be politicians from the bench or are they going to rule based on the wording and fairness of the law. I am against abortion but pro choice I also belive that the Baby has rights to life also and where the law gets fuzzy is in the fact that a Mother has the right to summary execution at will but the father does not have that same right when it is equal parts in creation from them both. It gets more murky when you consider that if someone incidentally kills or injures the child in utero they can be charged with murder their is a double standard involved that is not unlike a reverse double jeopardy all the way around in regards to a child in the womb and abortion. All that said I believe in Birth control and I do not see abortion as a portent of that it is a medical procedure in my opinion that should only be preformed in the most dire set of circumstances. Sadly as a issue it is one that shows how savage both sides are and even worse how apathetic and hypocritical our society is on so many petty levels...
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Soloman_The_Wise;7959808 said:
Nah I don't know anyone who is getting an abortion soon lol, I'm just laying out why some people think it's a needed procedure in certain circumstances. It's not the most important issue to me but at the same time, I believe society needs pro choice Supreme Court judges out there. If Rand Paul gets elected president, he would have some power to change that. I do agree the father's word is important, if he doesn't want an early termination, then that should be taken into consideration. I more or less agree with the rest of your post, but it's why Rand eventually is gonna have to air out his whole philosophy on this issue.
On that note, I'm willing to let this abortion argument die out (assuming Zombie is also willing to do so), as it doesn't effect me now and there are more important issues out there. But Rand Paul has to understand it's a big issue for many people out there, and the more he dodges the questions on the subject, the more people will jump to their own conclusions on what his future goals will be.
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well, this presumes a scenario where he appoints enough justices to change the way the current court votes AND that new court gets a relevant case in front of them AND they consciously decide to break with prior precedent.kingblaze84;7959452 said:
and you know, even though anti-gun Democrats throw legislation that will go nowhere out there in front of a Republican House (and now Senate) ... what anti-abortion legislation did all these Republican senators constantly promote?
i'm not saying that there aren't politicians in Congress who would vote against abortion if they could; i'm saying this "if the GOP wins the presidency GOODBYE ABORTIONS" is nonsense meant to scare you into voting a certain way.
or, to look at it another way... remember when Republicans controlled the House and Senate for two years under pro-life President George W Bush and abortion got banned?
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janklow;7961992 said:
So basically you're saying Rand Paul likely will keep the status quo on most states being pro-choice, even if some justices die or retire? If so, he should say so and the media will probably get off his back on it.
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kingblaze84;7962982 said:
Rand Paul is in a lose lose with it, being against abortion but also against Legislating the act either way just leaves the Gemini Straw Twins plenty to feed on. What I think you miss fam is the set of circumstances that would have to occur for it to be up in the air and the historic precedence in the past Bush Presidency where they had a majority GOP appointed Supreme Court and senate.
What should be a bigger concern to people is the everyday shit and big picture shit that actually directly impacts you. People are always so distracted and impassioned about shit that does not directly impact or is just a possibility that they allow it to distract from what does directly Manipulate their conditions. I guess the flip side is distraction from both positive and negative relevance means one does not have to hold accountability, take action or acknowledge the good and bad in their life.
I swear politics is Religion even to the nonreligious...
all i am saying is:kingblaze84;7962982 said:
--abortion is very unlikely to be significantly affected by even a GOP president/senate/house combo
--Paul wants votes from people who want to see a pro-life stance in their candidate
the latter may not ultimately be worth as much as some people think, but you're unlikely to see a GOP candidate actively talk about being pro-choice.
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Soloman_The_Wise;7963662 said:
Lol, yeah I take politics seriously, no debate about that. Some issues don't effect me directly but it would affect society, so in many ways it would eventually affect me, in ways I could write a book on. But in the end, I can have a disagreement with a candidate and still listen to what they have to say. So far, it's a mixed bag on this cat.
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