Raising Hell vs. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

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Love this album, bought it from a Library in Upstate NY

My favorite song on the album and one of my favorite hip hop songs


"I got a letter from the government the other day, I open and read it, it said they was SUCKAS"
 
Not even close for me. I fucks with both tho. But imo It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back is one of the greatest albums in any genre.
 
We thought Raising Hell was a 5 mic album at the time it was released. But compared to It takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, Raising Hell is 3.5 mics.

It Takes a Nation redefined what a perfect album sounds like. They upped the ante.

This is really no comparison. Public Enemy should win this by a landslide.

Run DMC was my favorite group when I was 12. Their lyrics made sense but their subject matter was always simple. When I got a little older I couldn't listen to them. they sounded like nursery rhymes.
 
king hassan;7823761 said:
It Takes a Nation production was off the fucking charts, the Bomb Squad put it down

Bomb Squad had Dre biting their sample style on Straight Outta Compton.
 
O.G.;7823772 said:
king hassan;7823761 said:
It Takes a Nation production was off the fucking charts, the Bomb Squad put it down

Bomb Squad had Dre biting their sample style on Straight Outta Compton.

I think NWA owned a lot of their style to PE. They was rocking baseball caps and clock chains on the cover of NWA and the Posse just like Chuck and Flava on Takes a Nation which came out half a year before. And I heard Chuck say in a interview that when he met Dre and Eazy the first time he gave them two copies of the album

 
5 Grand;7823780 said:
I never noticed Eric B at the end of the Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos video

Erick Sermon too lol

The track for "Night of the Livijng Bassheads" with that JB sample was insane
 
5 Grand;7823757 said:
We thought Raising Hell was a 5 mic album at the time it was released. But compared to It takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, Raising Hell is 3.5 mics.

It Takes a Nation redefined what a perfect album sounds like. They upped the ante.

This is really no comparison. Public Enemy should win this by a landslide.

Run DMC was my favorite group when I was 12. Their lyrics made sense but their subject matter was always simple. When I got a little older I couldn't listen to them. they sounded like nursery rhymes.

IMO...Raising a Hell is still a 5 mic album...name one wack track on that joint...the greatness of It Takes A Nation doesn't diminish what Run DMC produced...two different styles and both both are dope..
 
IMO A Large Portion Of Run DMC's Catalogue Sounds Very Dated....PE's On The Other Hands Holds Ups Quite Nicely Especially This Classic
 
soulbrother;7824061 said:
5 Grand;7823757 said:
We thought Raising Hell was a 5 mic album at the time it was released. But compared to It takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, Raising Hell is 3.5 mics.

It Takes a Nation redefined what a perfect album sounds like. They upped the ante.

This is really no comparison. Public Enemy should win this by a landslide.

Run DMC was my favorite group when I was 12. Their lyrics made sense but their subject matter was always simple. When I got a little older I couldn't listen to them. they sounded like nursery rhymes.

IMO...Raising a Hell is still a 5 mic album...name one wack track on that joint...the greatness of It Takes A Nation doesn't diminish what Run DMC produced...two different styles and both both are dope..

@ the bolded; Walk This Way

 
O.G.;7825963 said:
^^Explain.

They are both great albums but I don't think it is fair to compare them because w/o RUN DMC and arguably raising hell, there would be no PE. Chuck D cites RUN DMC as THE quintissental hip-hop band. Raising Hell dropped in 1986. PE dropped Yo! in 1987.
 
smp4life;7826070 said:
O.G.;7825963 said:
^^Explain.

They are both great albums but I don't think it is fair to compare them because w/o RUN DMC and arguably raising hell, there would be no PE. Chuck D cites RUN DMC as THE quintissental hip-hop band. Raising Hell dropped in 1986. PE dropped Yo! in 1987.

True but i like Yo waaaaay better than Raising Hell.
 
Great thread. Both albums are indisputable classics, but It Takes a Nation completely chaanged the course of hip-hop into social-political movement. Plus the album is simply better - beats are sparser, more tense and chaotic (Bomb Squad yo) , wordplay is more complex and clever and Chuck D's flow was simply unmatchable at that point. It Takes a Nation is the greatets hip-hop album ever made.
 

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