Racially Motivated Threads of the Social Lounge...

[Alkindus]

Therein lies the problem. You believe that everything involving race is illusory, but that's simply not true. The fact of the matter is that there is a thing called culture, and culture is usually tied strongly to the idea of racism. Whether you choose to accept it or not, there are differences between the average white person and the average black person. No, it's not biological, or anything intrinsic to those people as beings. However, it's still real. Failing to acknowledge this and "smacking down" anyone who does acknowledge it doesn't help the problem, it makes it worst. You have to acknowledge differences before you can accept them. You also have to understand their presence before you can respect them.

Your mindset is why a lot of white people who wish to be colorblind never actually succeed. In their minds, they tell themselves that race isn't an issue. But in their hearts they don't truly accept that people are different than them. So, they hold everyone regardless of race or culture to the same standard because to them that is equality. And then when they find that people don't respond in every situation the way they think they do, they automatically assume something is wrong with those people. They don't see that the problem is you can't put everyone in the same box. We all have different experiences, indoctrinations, and ideologies. Racism won't go away by pretending that there is no basis for it. It won't go away until everyone at least makes the attempt to understand and accept the very real differences that are there.

You probably heard about the cliche saying that goes: To come to the heart of it, do not come part of it. I acknowlegde that there are thousands of cultures, thousands of different people(hell if race does exist than there are a thousand of them), that there are also thousands of dead cultures and people. Cultures are always in development, under construction if you will(our children will have different perceptions of what 'we' supposelydly are etc), the world is so diverse and yet so complex that if we would study human diversity we would die not comprehending it....how can I not accept or acknowledge differences when we all are? . My girl is from Suriname, I am from Morocco, we both live in The Netherlands and when we have kids they will be dutch lol, cool thing is that now that I think about it we only hang with tolerant and universal folk. real hang with real. Off course there are some haters here and there but who cares man. they dont rule My world(and shouldn't rule yours, or your mindstate).

Unity through diversity, I luv it bro. Illusions are as real as you want them to be, you talk a lot about differences on a negative way and what not, like to acknowledge race, maybe if you wouldn't and actually embrace the diversity the next time when you look into the mirror you wouldn't see a racist......

 

[And Step]

this is something I have to look into. So basically white people aren't even aware of the oppression they cause. I wonder If successful black people are unaware of the subliminal oppression they are under which causes them to live life to the fullest and be happy not knowing before they die that they really lived a life of mental slavery, caused by the undetected subliminal unconscious unawareness of the white man. So the black man needs to wake up and be aware of the unaware and hate white people and successful black people who are willing to work with white people and spend time making them aware of the hate you have for their unawareness.

whew! I know feel that I am aware of all this unawareness. Feels awkward.

What do you define as successful.

You mean successful Black People like Thurgood Marshall, Bill Cosby, Lena Horne, Michael Jackson who acknowledged it's existence?

I was at one of the Gatheirng meetings in upstate New York, held by Harry Belafonte and he acknowledged subliminal racism. He is married to a white woman. I doubt you know very many successful black people. Its funny probably the most bitter diatribes I have heard against white people, have come from the so--called professional and successful class. You don't have a clue.

It doesn't matter anyway. As long as we handle bidness it is a moot point.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

we cant all be freud and self analyze. do you self analyze every action and consequences of said actions? plus most people dont even dabble in psychology/ sociology because they beleive it to be a load of bs

 

[And Step]

i dont get the joke

He doesn't get it either. He is on qualudes.

 

[And Step]

How about this. You live your life and respect the next man, and I'll do the same.

Just don't tell me what I should think. Fuck your thoughts.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

How about this. You live your life and respect the next man, and I'll do the same.

Just don't tell me what I should think. Fuck your thoughts.

but i cant say fuck yours cuz im curious. also, its better to know your enemies mindset in order to judge whether or not you can justify talking to them at all. obviously i see anyone who hates white people as my enemy and as a devils advocate i want to understand why you would and im getting a better idea, but people are being rash and not taking emotion out of the equation. be pissed off, dont let them specifiacally know your pissed off because they can use it against you. and it is my right as an arrogant asshole to tell you what i think you should think out of desparation of hoping you see the peaceful way but knowing you wont

 

[And Step]

tWhea reporter asked whether white people could join the OAAU, Malcolm X said, "Definitely not." Then he added, "If John Brown were still alive, we might accept him."

Key word being might. But if you ever heard Malcolm in a press conference he loved making statements like that to humor the reporters

UNRELATED NOTE: why must every damn thread devolve into people calling guys they don't agree with "Uncle Toms" or some other nonsense. just disagree with them or argue your points and let it go.

Well in all fairness Jank, you didn't mention that some call people racist militants and niggas just as much, if they don't agree with the other side. Or don't those people deserve the same consideration? Are we to assume by your silence on these matters that you condone it? If your going to call shots and be IC police, call all of them.

You Uncle Tom.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

very well but we are not alone in our evil. Rawanda

No one says that white people were the only ones to do evil acts. The difference being that Rawandans, Somalians, and all the other people in Africa are doing the things they are doing to their own people over control of the land and resources in that area. That's not a good thing, but every culture on Earth including whites have done that. The difference is that white people of gone from one end of the earth to the other corrupting and destroying at every stop. No other culture that I can think of has done that. And once again as I said in what you quote, white people are the only ones that have completely exterminated entire groups of people. There is evil in every culture true enough, but European culture seems to be based on evil acts.

You probably heard about the cliche saying that goes: To come to the heart of it, do not come part of it. I acknowlegde that there are thousands of cultures, thousands of different people(hell if race does exist than there are a thousand of them), that there are also thousands of dead cultures and people. Cultures are always in development, under construction if you will(our children will have different perceptions of what 'we' supposelydly are etc), the world is so diverse and yet so complex that if we would study human diversity we would die not comprehending it....how can I not accept or acknowledge differences when we all are? . My girl is from Suriname, I am from Morocco, we both live in The Netherlands and when we have kids they will be dutch lol, cool thing is that now that I think about it we only hang with tolerant and universal folk. real hang with real. Off course there are some haters here and there but who cares man. they dont rule My world(and shouldn't rule yours, or your mindstate).

Unity through diversity, I luv it bro. Illusions are as real as you want them to be, you talk a lot about differences on a negative way and what not, like to acknowledge race, maybe if you wouldn't and actually embrace the diversity the next time when you look into the mirror you wouldn't see a racist......

I never said or implied that differences are bad. Differences are bad or good, but they can lead to both. What I'm talking about in a negative way is failure to acknowled that those differences are there. You're making it seem like the answer is to ignore those differences and act like we're all the same. That's simply not a viable option. You have to understand, accept, and respect the differences in order for them not to lead to strife.

 

[bornnraisedoffCMR]

Racists....................

 

[bornnraisedoffCMR]

Nah, you expose real libertarians by asking them about economics. If they don't understand economics, they're libertarians.

Damn nigga you undefeated when it comes down to making the most idiotic posts in the History of the IC.

Fuck outta hea.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

No one says that white people were the only ones to do evil acts. The difference being that Rawandans, Somalians, and all the other people in Africa are doing the things they are doing to their own people over control of the land and resources in that area. That's not a good thing, but every culture on Earth including whites have done that. The difference is that white people of gone from one end of the earth to the other corrupting and destroying at every stop. No other culture that I can think of has done that. And once again as I said in what you quote, white people are the only ones that have completely exterminated entire groups of people. There is evil in every culture true enough, but European culture seems to be based on evil acts.

fair point and i see the logic. we got power and fought for it and abused it. its almost as if power should not be obtained by anyone who classifies himself as any race. i would say more about the harshness of the white man and how the constantly shut down societies and eek a living off of them, but its already acknowledged by me and you so i should quit preachin to the choir. the way i see it, everyone knows the white man has done this world a great injustice. I just forsee problems for the next couple of decades or centuries until a man who can not understand the reasoning behind racism is in power

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

damn people actually eat spam? i understand tofu, tvp and all that but spam? (perhaps spam is a form tvp, im not sure)

 

[And Step]

so what subliminal message is his marriage sending that he's unaware of? shouldn't his marriage discredit his opinion on the black race? from what I've learned here he would be considered a house knee-gro sellout coon.

You have an unhealthy obsession and affixation with Black self negation. Be careful unhealthy thoughts can poison you and wreak havoc on your internal systems.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

You have an unhealthy obsession and affixation with Black self negation. Be careful unhealthy thoughts can poison you and wreak havoc on your internal systems.

he calls it as he sees it much as you do. as for unhealthy thoughts...pots and kettles are all i have to say. if ether iam were to be said kettle.

 

[And Step]

he calls it as he sees it much as you do. as for unhealthy thoughts...pots and kettles are all i have to say. if ether iam were to be said kettle.

I was speaking from experience. Non emotionally, I might add.

I would comment on your thoughts, but most of the time I can't make out wtf you are talking about.

My head hurts when I read them shits.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

I was speaking from experience. Non emotionally, I might add.

I would comment on your thoughts, but most of the time I can't make out wtf you are talking about.

My head hurts when I read them shits.

i apologize. in other words can you tell him not to have a unhealthy thoughts that poison, when you yourself could be said to have them. no offense at all meant in said comment. just calling it as i see it

 

[And Step]

This is from someone who uses the words sellout, house nigga, and what not. Lol.

Oh well must be my unawareness I wasn't aware of.

Sell out I hardly ever use. House nigga in the truest sense is not as bad as a coon or sellout. His view is just narrow.

You don't see me making thread after thread after thread about house niggas do you? Matter of fact, I made one and it wasn't condemning nor sidewinding. It was a question about the thought process on people who label them or one who would accept such a label.

Your infatuation with self negation is disturbing. Your really not that different from some who is obsessed with the oppressor. You just direct it differently.

LOL. LOL. LOL. is code for my feelings are not hurt.

 

[And Step]

but i cant say fuck yours cuz im curious. also, its better to know your enemies mindset in order to judge whether or not you can justify talking to them at all. obviously i see anyone who hates white people as my enemy and as a devils advocate i want to understand why you would and im getting a better idea, but people are being rash and not taking emotion out of the equation. be pissed off, dont let them specifiacally know your pissed off because they can use it against you. and it is my right as an arrogant asshole to tell you what i think you should think out of desparation of hoping you see the peaceful way but knowing you wont

I know my enemies mindset. I just don't care to entertain him that much. If I never spoke to him, I would lose no sleep. I don't care enough about em.

And let's make one thing clear. If someone professes hate for white people that does not equate into wanting to be violent towards them. If that was the case Black people would have merked them a long time ago. That is the way you all think. Because you think Black people are going to do to you what you did to them.

And what is peace to you?

 

[And Step]

so tell me, in what way am I self negating?

Your not. I said you have an infatuation with it in Black people.

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

I know my enemies mindset. I just don't care to entertain him that much. If I never spoke to him, I would lose no sleep. I don't care enough about em.

And let's make one thing clear. If someone professes hate for white people that does not equate into wanting to be violent towards them. If that was the case Black people would have merked them a long time ago. That is the way you all think. Because you think Black people are going to do to you what you did to them.

And what is peace to you?

peace.... (peace i hate the word as i hate all montagues and thee benvolio) peace would be coexisting with wars and what not, but not out of hate but out of sadness. war will never go away, but hatred can....possibly. and if it cant, hate people for what they have specifically done, not that they are a race and they have done it. hate the person, go ahead man, hate me. "id rather hate you for everything you are, than ever love you for something you are not." and that can be flipped for me to say id rather love you for everything you are than ever hate you for something you are not. that would be peace. not that you want to hate me or anything that was addressed to anyone else who may be watching and doesnt want to comment