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we was on a roll with the no troll feeding
ya'll had to quote and reply to it tho...........
ya'll had to quote and reply to it tho...........
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pico rivera;3126674 said:we was on a roll with the no troll feeding
ya'll had to quote and reply to it tho...........
pico rivera;3126674 said:we was on a roll with the no troll feeding
ya'll had to quote and reply to it tho...........
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Emerald City Rolla;3126539 said:Yo kinky, what about other ethnicities copying black culture? Are you just talking about american white? Ever met a russian wigga? Run tell that.
JayToTheZ;3092237 said:Annother point, you black people complain of always being made fun of because of your skin colour. Yet you black guys are always the first ones to say something is gay.Gay people are just like you guys they were born a certain way like every other type of person.
They do not chose to be gay, they are born like that. To keep it personal is hard for them because if they are with a girl there not happy, but when they with a man they happy.
So its really hard for gays to keep in the closet.
Even though you black people don't have the choice to display your skin colour, its still the same thing. Your crying about being made fun of because of your skin colour, yet you make fun of homosexuals.
Homosexuals feel the same way as you black people when its comes to being degraded because of differences.
August 13, 2011, 2:05 pm
English Historian Blames Black Culture for Riots
By ROBERT MACKEY
[video=youtube;bAGTE_RGN4c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAGTE_RGN4c[/video]
During a televised discussion of the past week’s riots in England on Friday night, a prominent English historian sparked outrage by insisting that black, Afro-Caribbean culture was to blame for the mayhem and looting, even when the rioters were white.
David Starkey, who has presented several documentaries on the Tudor period, said during a BBC debate: “the problem is that the whites have become black — a particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion — and black and white, boy and girl, operate in this language together; this language, which is wholly false, which is a Jamaican patois, that’s been intruded in England, and this is why so many of us have this sense of literally a foreign country.”
Asked if he was saying that the prophecy of Enoch Powell — an English politician who claimed in a speech in 1968 that immigration would eventually mean, “the black man will have the whip hand over the white man” in Britain — had come true, Mr. Starkey replied: “That’s not true.” He added, “it’s not skin color, it’s cultural.”
The historian then sought to illustrate his point by referring to the way one of London’s leading black politicians, David Lammy, speaks. “Listen to David Lammy,” Mr. Starkey said, “an archetypical, successful black man: if you turned the screen off, so that you were listening to him on radio, you’d think he was white.”
The other participants in the debate quickly objected to Mr. Starkey’s remarks. Owen Jones, the author of a book about working class culture in Britain, told the historian: “It’s utterly outrageous, obviously, what you’re saying. What you’re doing is you’re equating black culture with criminality.”
A short time later, Emily Maitlis, the BBC journalist who was moderating the discussion, told Mr. Starkey that he was using the terms black culture and white culture as synonyms for bad and good.
Mr. Lammy, a member of Parliament from the area of London where the riots started, Tottenham, dismissed the historian’s comments as “irrelevant,” on his Twitter feed.
In a speech on the riots in the House of Commons last week, Mr. Lammy addressed what he saw as a cultural problem that had more to do class than race:
We must address why boys and girls aged as young as 11 engage in the kind of violent and destructive behavior witnessed this week. As we do so I urge all sides to avoid reaching for easy slogans and solutions.
These riots cannot be explained away simply by poverty or cuts to public services. That the vast majority of young men from poor areas did not take part in the violence is proof of that.
Many young men showed restraint and respect for others because they have grown up with social boundaries and a moral code. They have been taught how to delay gratification. To empathize with others rather than terrorize them. Those values are shaped by parents, our teachers and our neighbors.
It is when these relationships break down that our young people draw their values from elsewhere: a ‘Grand Theft Auto’ culture that glamorizes violence; a consumer culture fixated on the brands we wear, not who we are and what we achieve; a gang culture with warped notions of loyalty, respect and honor.
A civilized society should be policed not just by uniformed officers, but by notions of pride and shame and responsibility towards others….
On Tuesday the prime minister warned those involved in the rioting that they were risking their own futures. I am afraid the problem is far greater than that. Those lashing out — randomly, cruelly and violently — feel they have nothing to lose. They do not feel bound by the moral code of the rest of society because they do not feel part of the rest of society.
We cannot live in a society where the banks are ‘too big to fail,’ but whole neighborhoods are allowed to sink without a trace. The problems of these neighborhoods have not emerged overnight but the events of the last week are a wake-up call.
Following race riots ten years ago, the Cantle report warned of white and black communities living ‘parallel lives.’ Today the same is true but the polarization is not between black and white. It is between those who have a stake in society and those who do not.
Just hours after Mr. Starkey’s comments injected race into the discussion, the uncle of two men from Britain’s Pakistani community who were killed in Birmingham this week, as they attempted to stop looting, said something quite different. Speaking at a news conference on Saturday, Abdullah Khan spoke movingly of his dead nephews but insisted: “What we want is justice for our family. This was not about race, this was not about religion — this was about a pure criminal act.”
Earlier this week, the father of a third man who was killed in Birmingham in the same incident, made an emotional appeal to young men of all ethnic backgrounds in the city, “to remain calm, for our communities to remain united.”
As my colleague Sandy Macaskill reported, Tarik Jahan, the father of one of the Birmingham victims, said: “My son died defending the community he lived in. Blacks, Asians, whites — we all live in the same community. Step forward if you want to lose your sons. Otherwise, calm down and go home, please.”
Before reading his plea for tolerance and calm, Mr. Jahan said that he would read his remarks because he was not “a professional TV man.”
By contrast, Mr. Starkey has something of a professional reputation for making inflammatory remarks on television, particularly about the non-English communities within the United Kingdom. Two years ago, during a BBC discussion of the possibility of creating a national holiday for England, he rejected the idea, arguing: “If we decide to go down this route of having an English national day, that means we become a feeble little country, just like the Scots and the Welsh and the Irish.”
Earlier this week, Omar Waraich, a reporter for Time magazine observed on Twitter that it was striking that the riots had taken place only in England, leaving Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland entirely unscathed.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/13/english-historian-blames-black-culture-for-riots/
fiat_money;3147669 said:
Nah, that just means I am highly amused.PUPU_IZ_DRO;3147701 said:so i take it that ur cryin laughin?......
valentinez a. Kaiser;3147797 said:the girl died of a condition usually associated with earthquakes and bombings..
Beaten for 7 continuous hours; interrupted by short prayer breaks.
That shit is fucking ridiculous......smh