Racially Motivated Threads of the Social Lounge...

[phantom0900]

Basic Everyday Actions to Improve Unity Amongst the Black Community
By Neely Fuller expanded upon by Frances Cress Welsing

1. Stop name calling one another.

Do not encourage an environment of disrespect and calling out of each others names by instigating, tolerating, or perpetuating negative titles for each other.

2. Stop gossiping about one another.

"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas." Gossiping does nothing but spread negativity and half truths about our peers. Engaging in pop culture gossip promotes the behavior or actions of those we are talking about. No one used to like a gossip, and it was for good reasons; let’s try to reverse the cool to gab trend.

3. Stop squabbling amongst one another.

Arguing with each other over differences of opinion or momentary disappoints is a waste of time and energy. Look to solve the problems as opposed to dwelling on them.

4. Stop cursing at one another.

It’s called cursing for a reason. Reserve the harsh language for extreme situations.

5. Stop being discourteous to one another.

Part of building a community is greeting one another, even if we are strangers. A simple “peace brother, how ya doing sister?” brings smiles all the time. Hold the door for man, woman, and child while you’re at it.

6. Stop being disrespectful to one another.

See #1-5.

7. Stop stealing from one another.

Do not envy and or try to rob others of their success or rewards for their efforts. This includes intellectual endeavors. If someone on your street opens a Wings spot and it’s doing good business, do not open one across the street from him, you’re just going to hurt each other. Complement our family on their material and mental accomplishments.

8. Stop robbing one another.

Like #7 says, stop taking what others have achieved, get out and work for your own.

9. Stop fighting one another.

Resorting to violence when diplomacy fails is a sure sign of immaturity and over invested egos. Only resort to violence as a defense of yourself, and in defense of what you consider your family. Learn to compromise and to agree to disagree.

10. Stop killing one another.

Black on black crime is a huge problem in our community, we all know this. It is up to us to set the standard to the youth that another mans’ life is worth more than some sneakers,

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Humanity, I realize that even if the world was one race there would still be all the problems their are today so I figured its just better, more useful, and has a greater long term effect to love humans and understand just cause they look different dont mean they are, funny thing is people who are racist all think alike and have the same general ideas and cant even realize it being so clear. They are hating the same thing they love.

 

[helllnahhhhh]

A lot of people within this thread are gravely misinformed. You sound like you’ve been educated by a Spike Lee movie and some ra-tarded Black Panther novel. Did one guy say black people created electricity because an ancient battery was found in some sand? Did someone actually say that? ROFL

It’s a little sad that in your desperation to make the existence of your insignificant race seem worthwhile you steal and take credit for things which your people couldn‘t invent today never mind hundreds of years ago, and whilst you do it you have the nerve to say white people stole those things from you! Built the pyramids? Invented electricity, mathematics? At least you have a sense of humour. The greatest achievements in this world belong to the white man, landing on the moon, the creation of electricity, mathematics, science, modern medicine, the list goes on and on and on.

And whilst you struggle to pick out random acts of fuckery committed by white people you forget about your own race and the “sick shit” that continues to happen everyday in countries invested with black people, eg, gang rape, mutilation, murder, enslavement, spreading of aids, etc.

Here’s a tip. Instead of spending your time reading websites created by other equally emotional angry black teenagers who wouldn’t know a spoon from a fork to fill your head with inconceivable truths you should make an effort to stop making posts that continue to make your race look weak. Oh! And stop acting as if YOU were enslaved, it’s pathetic.

 

[And Step]

Neither.

They are one and the same.

 

[And Step]

Love of your people doesn't imply hatred of another.

Start with your family first. Some people don't even acknowledge their neighbors. If you want to love all humanity, start with your people and those close to you. No need in frontin like you love humanity and hate your own people.

 

[young_reezy]

A lot of people within this thread are gravely misinformed. You sound like you’ve been educated by a Spike Lee movie and some ra-tarded Black Panther novel. Did one guy say black people created electricity because an ancient battery was found in some sand? Did someone actually say that? ROFL

It’s a little sad that in your desperation to make the existence of your insignificant race seem worthwhile you steal and take credit for things which your people couldn‘t invent today never mind hundreds of years ago, and whilst you do it you have the nerve to say white people stole those things from you! Built the pyramids? Invented electricity, mathematics? At least you have a sense of humour. The greatest achievements in this world belong to the white man, landing on the moon, the creation of electricity, mathematics, science, modern medicine, the list goes on and on and on.

And whilst you struggle to pick out random acts of fuckery committed by white people you forget about your own race and the “sick shit” that continues to happen everyday in countries invested with black people, eg, gang rape, mutilation, murder, enslavement, spreading of aids, etc.

Here’s a tip. Instead of spending your time reading websites created by other equally emotional angry black teenagers who wouldn’t know a spoon from a fork to fill your head with inconceivable truths you should make an effort to stop making posts that continue to make your race look weak. Oh! And stop acting as if YOU were enslaved, it’s pathetic.

you understand HIS-story is written by the victors right? not saying that some people don't reach to connect things with themselves in search of their identity in this world, mathmatics and science? are you serious on that one? ok .

read the MIS-EDUCATION OF THE NEGRO - by Carter G. Woodson

 

[And Step]

It’s a little sad that in your desperation to make the existence of your insignificant race seem worthwhile you steal and take credit for things which your people couldn‘t invent today never mind hundreds of years ago, and whilst you do it you have the nerve to say white people stole those things from you! Built the pyramids? Invented electricity, mathematics? At least you have a sense of humour. The greatest achievements in this world belong to the white man, landing on the moon, the creation of electricity, mathematics, science, modern medicine, the list goes on and on and on.

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Sorry Black people were way involved in mathematics long before the ancient greeks. The pyramids were a mathematical formula. They used a sophisticated hydraulic system to even put the stones in place. And your stupid. You don't create electricity, you harness it or you generate it. Nobody has pinpointed its origin yet. Matter of fact, modern mathematics innovation can really be traced to the Arabs and to some degree the persians.

Modern medicine? What medicine? Most of your medicine comes from stealing treatments from indigenous people around the Earth. Cotton Mather stole the idea for inoculations from his slaves. Besides there is very little modern medicine. They don't heal anything. They just relieve symptoms.

The white man has shown the greatest achievements in this world. Unfortunately he has also shown the greatest savagery, debauchery, and evil. He needs balance. That is why the world he built is falling apart because he has knowledge, but it is not absolute. Couple that with the fact that he sees himself as separate from creation and has no respect for it, you have a sure recipe for demise. And you might want to ease up on the rape, slavery, and murder stuff . The number one offenders of all these acts, have been white men. It would take black men another 6000 years to catch up. And the spreading of AIDS was actually done by white people. Do some rudimentary research and you will see it's true.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

all right ill go with the being followed through the ipod or gps theory. but food? gas heating? most sports? do you walk everywhere? or do you take the bus, which is a gas powered automobile which was invented by a white man. the bike was invented by a white man, rollerblades. If you wanna call the greeks white, they certainly aint black. not that I care if a white or black man invented shit. but dont try to claim that white men didnt invent shit. If you live in a white world as you claim (and i agree on some points) then of course we invented most of the shit you see around you. thank bill gates for the fact that you can even argue with me. and of course people were living fine before those things, but now theyre here and you cant ignore that they have the potential to help even if people dont always use them like that. most diseases and cures/ vaccinations were founded by a white man. check yourelf. Name one cure that was found by an arab, black, chinese, whatever, and ill give you a thousand founded by white men and women

Did Africans invent the steam engine?
First Invented in Africa
In the library of Alexandria, where the ancient knowledge of the Black Eygptians had been gathered, preserved and relentlessly researched by the Ptolemic/Hellenic Empire of Asia Minor.
The very magic of the goddess and the god were inscribed in their own hand writings on sacred scrolls, which revealed the secrets of the ancient foundation of science, metaphysics, astronomy, technology and mathematics. This fact was acknowledged by the whole earth which sojourned on pilgrimage to the blessed lands of Egypt, Ethiopia and Punt to receive celestial knowledge and beneficience.
So it happened that in the first century A.D. an African/Hellene named Heron of Alexandria stumbled across the secrets of steam machines and several other devices recorded in those sacred scrolls of the ancient and magical Kemetians. Heron, like all the other so-called Greek discoverers (and similar later day “European” discoverers like Colombus) only “discovered” what was already there before him.
It must be noted at all times that Heron, came across the secret of steam engine in Kemetian books stored in the libraries of Alexandria, managed by ancient Kemetian priest-hood which had continued with lesser influence under the Ptolemaic hegemony
Digging through the scientific trove of the ancient Kemetians, Heron developed several devices that were operated by water, steam, or compressed air, including a fountain, a fire engine, and the steam engine.
Different dynasties and kingdoms thereafter sought to exploit the power of the steam engines to various ends. The Carthaginians, the Romans, and the Moors thereafter. The Moors in Europe famously constructed machines which appeared close to steam engines if the descriptions of the contemporaries of those periods were to be accepted.
From England, Scotland to Afro-America and Canada!
Through the ages, the steam engine was developed by various un-named al-chemists and scientists. It was significantly improved in 1711 by Englishman Thomas Newcomen (1663–1729), who created a machine that used steam to pump water.
Not long thereafter, the Scottish inventor James Watt (1736–1819) substantially improved on Newcomen’s model and patented (received exclusive rights to make, use, and sell) his own steam engine in 1769. Steam engines had previously depended on atmospheric pressure to push a piston (a sliding piece of metal moved by pressure) into a cylinder (a hollow tube) and create a vacuum by the cooling steam. Watt’s invention was the first to employ a separate device, called a condenser, which performed this function
The steam engine eventually became the basis of the locomotive engine which ran on rail roads. They had the potential to remake the global economy and society but it was hampered by the inherent problem with the steam engine designs of those days.
At that time, locomotives needed to be shut down periodically to be lubricated to avoid overheating. The frequent stops prevented railroads from being profitable until Elijah McCoy developed the “lubricating cup” for steam engines, which kept locomotives constantly lubricated, preventing frequent stops and overheating.
Elijah McCoy the Great Afro-Canadian Scientist
Elijah McCoy was an Afro-Canadian scientist and inventor. His parents escaped from slavery in Kentucky and travelled via “the Underground Railroad” to Canada. Mccoy was born in Colchester Ontario. He grew up a talented youth in Canada but yet faced racists discriminations which threatened to block the development of his mind. He was blocked from any meaning ful educational opportunity as there were national and regional policies in place to discourage African Canadians and African Americans in general from seeking any higher educational attainement.
So, Elijah Mccoy decided to travel out of Canada to other climes where there appeared to be more opportunities. At 15 years of age he traveled to Scotland seeking the educational opportunities from which Afro-Americans were excluded in the Americas, including then Canada.
Mccoy trained in mechanical engineering in Scotland and then moved to the United States. He was denied an engineering employment-again because he was of African descent. He instead had to take a job as a railroad fireman. In that humble position, he continued in his private time and with his own money, his true scientific calling which was the design and invention of numerous mechanical devices. He built many remarkable machines and inventions. Many of his inventions and innovations are incorporated into the fundamental design and structure of today’s automobile engines and machines.
Mccoy patented the lubricating cup in 1872. It represented the most profitable of his more than 58 patents, which included a folding ironing board and an automatic sprinkler. It revolutionized the steam engine and locomotive travel. Trains could now move continuously at high speed across the continents, delivering people and goods with an efficieny not yet matched by any other means of land travel. Mccoy’s invention was so valuable to the automotive industry that his name became a by-word. Until today, his name is daily invoked across America to associate authenticity and high standards to specific goods and services, by designating such as the “real Mccoy”.
So it goes, that the knowledge that began long ago in Ethiopia, trickled down through Thebes, Memphis, Alexandria, Byzantine, Moorish Spain, England, Scotland and finally African America, has come full circle. What goes around surely comes around.
Jide Uwechia
March 27, 2010
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775694.html
http://www.enotes.com/history-fact-finder/science-invention/who-invented-steam-engine

 

[dpresidential]

I would rather see the love of humanity over power the love of ones race, instead of visa-versa. But I highly doubt I'll ever see either.

I agree with you on Loving Humanity more than just loving your race. At the end of the day...we are all human. If more people adopted the "love humanity", it could be a trend that could change this world.

There are those who say, "Why love others if they hate you?" Well...because respect and love has to start somewhere and since I'm not a hateful person, might as well start with me. I really don't care if many of them hate me, I show respect and love when I feel it is right. Period.

 

[And Step]

I agree with you on Loving Humanity more than just loving your race. At the end of the day...we are all human. If more people adopted the "love humanity", it could be a trend that could change this world.

There are those who say, "Why love others if they hate you?" Well...because respect and love has to start somewhere and since I'm not a hateful person, might as well start with me. I really don't care if many of them hate me, I show respect and love when I feel it is right. Period.

Respect and love some would say are mutually exclusive.

I don't love everyone, but I try to respect everyone.

 

[Hyde Parke]

Love of your people doesn't imply hatred of another.

Start with your family first. Some people don't even acknowledge their neighbors. If you want to love all humanity, start with your people and those close to you. No need in frontin like you love humanity and hate your own people.

/thread

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[And Step]

Let me ask this. What is love to you all?

Because I get the feeling that some have a different perspective of what love is.

 

[dpresidential]

Respect and love some would say are mutually exclusive.

I don't love everyone, but I try to respect everyone.

You're absolutely right. I do try to show respect to everyone I meet. I don't care if you're Muslim(I don't think about 9/11, I give you a clean slate because you are an individual), I don't care if you're white(There were whites who were slave owners and there are racists whites today, I give you a clean slate because you are an individual), if you are whatever, I give everybody I meet the benefit of the doubt. because honestly, if you are holding hostility right off the bat, even before you talk to them, you are continuing the cycle of paranoia and separation...

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Let me ask this. What is love to you all?

Because I get the feeling that some have a different perspective of what love is.

I think there is different types of love.

I love my family and friends as in I will kill and be killed for them at anytime.

I love people as in i respect them and feel no hatred towards the good majority

 

[And Step]

You're absolutely right. I do try to show respect to everyone I meet. I don't care if you're Muslim(I don't think about 9/11, I give you a clean slate because you are an individual), I don't care if you're white(There were whites who were slave owners and there are racists whites today, I give you a clean slate because you are an individual), if you are whatever, I give everybody I meet the benefit of the doubt. because honestly, if you are holding hostility right off the bat, even before you talk to them, who are continuing the cycle of paranoia and separation...

My wife's cousin is a lawyer and I was telling him about a business relationship I was about to enter into with a friend. I didn't have a formal agreement and he asked me why not. I waxed poetic about how close we were and I trusted him. He looked at me deadpan and said "You shouldn't have to." Get an agreement. Turns out he was right.

I think it is more prudent to be cautious. Separation and Paranoia to a point is healthy. One of the prob's I find with black people is we are too trusting sometimes and it puts us in a bad position and historically it has put us at a disadvantage because people don't see nor feel the same way. Africa was plundered for this very reason.

Being honest, knowing the world we live in, I err on the side of caution.

 

[dpresidential]

My wife's cousin is a lawyer and I was telling him about a business relationship I was about to enter into with a friend. I didn't have a formal agreement and he asked me why not. I waxed poetic about how close we were and I trusted him. He looked at me deadpan and said "You shouldn't have to." Get an agreement. Turns out he was right.

I think it is more prudent to be cautious. Separation and Paranoia to a point is healthy. One of the prob's I find with black people is we are too trusting sometimes and it puts us in a bad position and historically it has put us at a disadvantage because people don't see nor feel the same way. Africa was plundered for this very reason.

Being honest, knowing the world we live in, I err on the side of caution.

No...clearly you should be cautious in life. I am the same way, but NOT on the basis of their nationality or religion. If you are engaging in a transaction with a friend or a relative I agree that you should still get it in writing. That is just smart. However, I mean, just because whites enslaved blacks in the past and there are racists today....I won't just look at a white person that I have no knowledge about and be cautious. The same way I don't think it is right that a person, whose been mugged by a black youth 5 times should look at all blacks teenagers he meets with resentment.

 

[And Step]

No...clearly you should be cautious in life. I am the same way, but NOT on the basis of their nationality or religion. If you are engaging in a transaction with a friend or a relative I agree that you should still get it in writing. That is just smart. However, I mean, just because whites enslaved blacks in the past and there are racists today....I won't just look at a white person that I have no knowledge about and be cautious. The same way I don't think it is right that a person, whose been mugged by a black youth 5 times should look at all blacks teenagers he meets with resentment.

C'mon son. You live in Brooklyn. You mean to tell me you see some MOP looking dudes coming at you won't tense up and be cautious? LOL

I definitely don't give white people, particularly those in positions of authority the benefit of the doubt. It has nothing to do with resentment. Just historical precedent. This does not mean I will treat them unjustly, just I feed with a long spoon.

 

[dpresidential]

C'mon son. You live in Brooklyn. You mean to tell me you see some MOP looking dudes coming at you won't tense up and be cautious? LOL

I definitely don't give white people, particularly those in positions of authority the benefit of the doubt. It has nothing to do with resentment. Just historical precedent. This does not mean I will treat them unjustly, just I feed with a long spoon.

LMAO. You are right. However, I look at it like this...a Black person naked(no jokes) is a person with a clean slate if I just meet them. Now, when you throw in choice of lifestyle dynamic...things get complicated. You have a situation like a heavy metal kid...he can choose his lifestyle...but he can't choose his skin color. Now, after the Colombine attacks, we saw those white kids dressed in long black tench coats and army shoes...that was an image. Seeing that same image one a white kid with long black trench coat and black army boots looking all goth makes me cautious like he might be part of that "negative culture"(Which isn't representative of whites as a whole, but a very small sub group.) Now...

With that taken into consideration, we have to talk about the image being pushed by the individual. We have been indoctrinated by urban media to believe a thug or a hoodlum is dressed a certain way. Our own artists push this...In music videos(of old especially throughout the 90's) we saw that rappers who talked about killing "niggas who looked at me sideways, robbing niggas stunting and dealing drugs with the colombians." We were told that this was credible by these artists. They dressed a certain way...now when you see an individual dressed like the dudes in "Ante Up" video, lol, you think they are trying to push that image...thus you get cautious. It is sad that we want to continue to push the intimidation image, but that is urban culture at the moment.

 

[dpresidential]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Nicely articulated. Much respect.

 

[And Step]

I don't even think there's a correct definition of love, and why should there be? I mean love can encompass everything then mean nothing. It's weird how sometimes we associate love with hurt, pain and death. We are willing to die for our love ones and become of no benifit to them for the remainder of there lives. When my 1st daughter was born I never experianced a love like that, I didn't even know if it was love, because what I thought and was taught what love was was to weak of a definition to apply to her, and I knew I had to live for her. I feel that way about both my girls.


Sometimes people will watch someone they love destroy themselves but will be quick to check or correct someone they hate.

See to me that is not love. Love to me is duty. I don't see it as an emotional feeling. If you love someone there is a duty attached to it. I would have to question that persons love for another person if they watch them destroy themselves.

I was taught correction was an honor. If I correct you regardless to how I feel about you personally, that is a form a love. There are people who I may not like personally, but I love them nonetheless because they helped me to become better.

I do agree that love and hate are basically the same just projected in opposite directions.