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major pain;1035501 said:
I dont get the whole "white apologists" comments just because I'm not afraid to point out there are problems on both sides of the fence. If anything, by not acknowledging that black people are responsible for their own actions, you are more of a black apologist. Do you not agree there are some shitty white people just like there are some shitty black people?

I posted a link with plenty of black people committing hate crimes already. Did you read it? http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/hatecrimes.html

As far as the other things go, of course you wont find that shit on some grand scale. That still doesnt mean that black people dont walk around hating white people. You try to make it seem like EVERY black person is somehow discriminated against by EVERY white person.
All you showed were a bunch of black people murdering whites because of their history of hatred towards blacks. If anything that's commendable. So since you dont have any examples what-so-ever of attacks based unfounded hatred and solely based on the fact that people were born white why not just STFU? And even on the off chance of you coming up with one example it still wouldn't amount to the 400 + years of white on black violence still perpetuated and excused by whites and idiot coons til this day.

Also I see only 26 credits LMAO In the 234+ year history of this country you came up with a link with only 26 references to these instances that are at best questionable? FUCKING HILARIOUS lol Black on white racism is nothing more than a Myth whites a use to excuse their own hatred "BLACKS CAN BE RACIST TOOOO!!!!!" *CRYYYYYYY*" Trying to group black FRUSTRATION towards whites in the same group as white HATRED towards blacks is idiotic. And the fact that you would rather attack blacks who are simply reacting to white hatred instead of attacking the true cause of the problem which is whites and white racism itself makes you a part of the problem yourself. Lets not attack white racism which is the root of the problem. Lets attack the brave men and women who fight back against it.

Either give me some credible examples or lets get back to the original point of the thread which is whites got Obama looking like an ass on race.
 
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independentsoundlab;1036724 said:
I think the last thing they wanna do is start a war with any communist "threat".. Most communists are in the east, Cuba is right next door.. Middle East/Afghan War is like 2 8 years old fighting compared to this..

This assessment makes a great deal of sense.
 
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musicology1985;1038591 said:
@Major Pain

1.) It's not difficult if you know how to study trends over generational periods. Something similar is done on the stock market as well as in meteorology.

2.) Everything you stand for (Greek Society, Freemasonry, Oil Interests, the Obama Administration and materialistic braggadocio) revolves around keeping the current system in place. It's ironic that the same people who speak about education and change the most are the same ones keeping the system the way that it is. Furthermore, those killings were not rooted in racism, but instead, reactionism.

You have no idea of "everything I stand for". Your assumptions about who I work with and my affiliations are just those assumptions. I dont think I've ever stated anything about my possessions to you. Maybe I did.. it seems to have struck a nerve with you. The lambo line was a reference to The boondocks... ya know a joke, satirical type stuff?

I'm very much against the rampant white racism that occurs in society. Its one of the reasons why I work for myself. I'm gonna assume you are still very young based on your posts. I've been in corporate America long enough to have seen more than enough of the BS that happens. All that said, black people arent going to just magically "take over". We have to be better than the ones that are racist instead of screaming "kill whitey".

DarcSkies777;1038630 said:
All you showed were a bunch of black people murdering whites because of their history of hatred towards blacks. If anything that's commendable. So since you dont have any examples what-so-ever of attacks based unfounded hatred and solely based on the fact that people were born white why not just STFU? And even on the off chance of you coming up with one example it still wouldn't amount to the 400 + years of white on black violence still perpetuated and excused by whites and idiot coons til this day.

Also I see only 26 credits LMAO In the 234+ year history of this country you came up with a link with only 26 references to these instances that are at best questionable? FUCKING HILARIOUS lol Black on white racism is nothing more than a Myth whites a use to excuse their own hatred "BLACKS CAN BE RACIST TOOOO!!!!!" *CRYYYYYYY*" Trying to group black FRUSTRATION towards whites in the same group as white HATRED towards blacks is idiotic. And the fact that you would rather attack blacks who are simply reacting to white hatred instead of attacking the true cause of the problem which is whites and white racism itself makes you a part of the problem yourself. Lets not attack white racism which is the root of the problem. Lets attack the brave men and women who fight back against it.

Either give me some credible examples or lets get back to the original point of the thread which is whites got Obama looking like an ass on race.

Those people were killed by black people who have a history of hatred towards white people. Lets not pretend those people that were killed were neo-nazis and KKK members. Killing people for no reason is commendable now?

Sorry, I didnt realize you asked me to list every single incident ever recorded. You asked for examples, then when you get them, you come up with excuses about those examples. Can you prove that any of those people who were killed were racist or hated black people? These are the brave men and women who fight against racism huh? I'll choose better heroes like MLK, at least in my opinion. For the record, I'm not attacking anything. I'm just stating that it exists and its a problem. Anytime anyone is murdered its a problem no matter what race.

The topic that yielded this discussion wasnt white racism that why we're not talking about it. Someone foolishly said what amounted to "black people cant hate white people simply for being white". You and music are proving that wrong post by post.
 
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You have no idea of "everything I stand for".

You have stated what you stand for over and over numerous times in various posts and threads.
You are also a self admitted liar.


Your assumptions about who I work with and my affiliations are just those assumptions.

No, YOU claimed to be a Freemason. YOU claimed to be a Greek Fraternal member. YOU claimed to work in the Oil Industry. YOU claimed to own a Lamborghini and high net worth (outside of the boondocks line.) YOU defended Obama numerous times on various occasions. Nothing that I have stated about you is an assumption but instead, something YOU put out there.

I dont think I've ever stated anything about my possessions to you.

see previous answer

Maybe I did.. it seems to have struck a nerve with you. The lambo line was a reference to The boondocks... ya know a joke, satirical type stuff?

No nerve struck, I just know that your the shifty type who tries to wiggle his way out of situations you put yourself in. Don't say these things if you cannot stick by it in the long run. I have not shifted in any of my positions while debating you.

I'm very much against the rampant white racism that occurs in society.

I don't believe you.

Its one of the reasons why I work for myself.

You work for the oil industry too. Don't forget and try to make it seem like you don't now.

I'm gonna assume you are still very young based on your posts.

This is one of your favorite lines I see.

I've been in corporate America long enough to have seen more than enough of the BS that happens.

You are a key part of that B.S.

All that said, black people arent going to just magically "take over".

I never said that.

We have to be better than the ones that are racist instead of screaming "kill whitey".

Nobody said that. Quit with the police detective tactics.

Someone foolishly said what amounted to "black people cant hate white people simply for being white". You and music are proving that wrong post by post.

You have no examples to prove this claim.
 
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musicology1985;1036397 said:
the fact that you yankee crackers can't run in there is proof of a deep respect-
again, i don't even know what this means. was i talking about invading Cuba? do i have to invade a country to not have respect for it? i don't respect North Korea either. and i have doubt that you are invading all the nations you don't respect.

also, you're not from the US now?
 
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musicology1985;1035619 said:
all of this is a load of crap. I presented a rebuttal to you 3 days ago AND THAT WAS IT. since then? everything that you have presented has been disregarded because you are no longer a part of the conversation. Swiff and Major will take it from here, or some one else of that ilk. cracker.
i think you also said this:

"I am not about to ARGUE WITH A CRACKER ON ISSUES OF RACISM."

"I ain't responding to nothing unless it's coming from your half cracker OR uncle tom surrogates.*"

so your feelings got hurt so badly that you couldn't even keep your word on that, huh?

here's the bottom line: you haven't given me a rebuttal because your argument is nothing but "race doesn't exist because i say so" and "cracker cracker cracker." this is not a serious argument; this is you saying we have to agree with you or we can't discuss the topic. you won't address notions like the idea that your claims can be summed up with "everyone but me could agree race exists but if i don't, it doesn't." and you immediately went to yelling "cracker" and talking shit once your argument got trashed.
 
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musicology1985;1039144 said:
You have no idea of "everything I stand for".

You have stated what you stand for over and over numerous times in various posts and threads.
You are also a self admitted liar.


Your assumptions about who I work with and my affiliations are just those assumptions.

No, YOU claimed to be a Freemason. YOU claimed to be a Greek Fraternal member. YOU claimed to work in the Oil Industry. YOU claimed to own a Lamborghini and high net worth (outside of the boondocks line.) YOU defended Obama numerous times on various occasions. Nothing that I have stated about you is an assumption but instead, something YOU put out there.

I dont think I've ever stated anything about my possessions to you.

see previous answer

Maybe I did.. it seems to have struck a nerve with you. The lambo line was a reference to The boondocks... ya know a joke, satirical type stuff?

No nerve struck, I just know that your the shifty type who tries to wiggle his way out of situations you put yourself in. Don't say these things if you cannot stick by it in the long run. I have not shifted in any of my positions while debating you.

I'm very much against the rampant white racism that occurs in society.

I don't believe you.

Its one of the reasons why I work for myself.

You work for the oil industry too. Don't forget and try to make it seem like you don't now.

I'm gonna assume you are still very young based on your posts.

This is one of your favorite lines I see.

I've been in corporate America long enough to have seen more than enough of the BS that happens.

You are a key part of that B.S.

All that said, black people arent going to just magically "take over".

I never said that.

We have to be better than the ones that are racist instead of screaming "kill whitey".

Nobody said that. Quit with the police detective tactics.

Someone foolishly said what amounted to "black people cant hate white people simply for being white". You and music are proving that wrong post by post.

You have no examples to prove this claim.

My claims to those organizations are one thing, what you ASSUME about them is something else. You dont know WHAT I do as a mason, fraternity member, or the type of work I do in the oil industry. The type of work I do, can be done for ANY type of company. It just so happens that the current contract I have is worthwhile to do it for this industry. The lambo was a joke, if you dont know the difference between lying and a joke, then every comedy routine you have ever seen is a lie to you. There is nothing to wiggle out of, you are very presumptuous with ideas and end up looking a fool when people challenge them. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go wash my lambo....
 
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@major pain

My claims to those organizations are one thing, what you ASSUME about them is something else.

No it is not.

You dont know WHAT I do as a mason, fraternity member, or the type of work I do in the oil industry. The type of work I do, can be done for ANY type of company.

B.S. you come on line to defend the establishment just like Janklow.

It just so happens that the current contract I have is worthwhile to do it for this industry.

The point is, you are tied into the same systems that are responsible for much of the world's ills. The oil industry is holding REAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BACK. It doesn't matter what you claim to do within that because you're a self admitted liar anyway.

The lambo was a joke,

No it wasn't, you were trying to boost up your e-rep for all of those who buy that kinda crap to show and prove that anything is possible and more importantly, legitimize western society.


if you dont know the difference between lying and a joke, then every comedy routine you have ever seen is a lie to you. There is nothing to wiggle out of,

There is much for you to wiggle out of. You stand for the establishment and your goal is to defend that by any means necessary.

you are very presumptuous with ideas and end up looking a fool when people challenge them.

People? What people? You (a tom) Swiffness (half cracker) & janklow (full cracker) are the only real challenges I had and neither of you have proven me wrong on anything and of course, you all have ulterior motives for trying to do so.
 
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pleeeassseeeee politics when ppl tryt to discuss them most of the time they sound dumb no matter how smart they are or their research or anything... politics is such a controversal subject! anywho obama is a great president there is nothing wrong with using the mind of a white person to get to where u gota go sorry folks but we live with white ppl and we need to learn to live with them no matter what they did to us back in the day or what they try to do now...their were many great quakers and abolomist back in the slavery days that dedicated thei whole lives to helping" blacks" somne of these ppl where actualy WHITE PPL some black ppl need to get off thier high horse about white ppl suck it up and start to realy get"their knowledge on" before they start just up and pointing fingers blameing the white ppl.. our president barack obama who is a black man made history while we are here today our president a black man inheritade one of the most "messed" up economys since the great depression. our president a black man told us when he went into office that there will be a change but it will not happen over night it may not realyt happen during his whole term but it will happen. our president is doing a good job amongst these evil white devils and he needs to be supported and apreciated! smh...
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1039813 said:
Major Pain, are you a Wackenhut security guard?

Its quite possible. I mean that would fit any business.

musicology1985;1039832 said:
@major pain

My claims to those organizations are one thing, what you ASSUME about them is something else.

No it is not.

You dont know WHAT I do as a mason, fraternity member, or the type of work I do in the oil industry. The type of work I do, can be done for ANY type of company.

B.S. you come on line to defend the establishment just like Janklow.

It just so happens that the current contract I have is worthwhile to do it for this industry.

The point is, you are tied into the same systems that are responsible for much of the world's ills. The oil industry is holding REAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BACK. It doesn't matter what you claim to do within that because you're a self admitted liar anyway.

The lambo was a joke,

No it wasn't, you were trying to boost up your e-rep for all of those who buy that kinda crap to show and prove that anything is possible and more importantly, legitimize western society.


if you dont know the difference between lying and a joke, then every comedy routine you have ever seen is a lie to you. There is nothing to wiggle out of,

There is much for you to wiggle out of. You stand for the establishment and your goal is to defend that by any means necessary.

you are very presumptuous with ideas and end up looking a fool when people challenge them.

People? What people? You (a tom) Swiffness (half cracker) & janklow (full cracker) are the only real challenges I had and neither of you have proven me wrong on anything and of course, you all have ulterior motives for trying to do so.

Lets say you are a real baller, like me, complete with blue lambo and what not. So, you have a chance to earn a lucrative paycheck with an oil company, lets say Exxon. You are going to turn that down so you can make sure you stay anti-establishment? Is that what you tellin' a nigga, nigga? I think I would consider this a candidate for Chappelle Show's "When keeping it real goes wrong". Keep your answer 100.

You really are a complete idiot if you dont think "my president is black and my lambo is blue, nigga" isnt a joke. I even posted the video of where it came from.

See statements like "boost your e-rep" and "stand for the establishment....defend that by any means necessary" are those exact presumptuous ones I was referring to.
 
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Lets say you are a real baller, like me,

Quit lyin' lmao... u just playin' around at this point lol

complete with blue lambo and what not. So, you have a chance to earn a lucrative paycheck with an oil company, lets say Exxon.

Look man, take whatever job you want. The point is, your background shapes your worldview, so of course your pro establishment and anti-change even though your president is always speaking of it. what a oxymoron lol


See statements like "boost your e-rep"

that's exactly what you were trying to do. ain't no other reason to promote materialism online

and "stand for the establishment....defend that by any means necessary"

this is something you always do......online

are those exact presumptuous ones I was referring to.

it's all true what I said about you and you prove it with the stances you take on issues. anyway man due to this hilarious response I guess we done. you can gone head and take the last word cuz I know you enjoy that part.
 
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janklow;1039625 said:
again, i don't even know what this means. was i talking about invading Cuba? do i have to invade a country to not have respect for it? i don't respect North Korea either. and i have doubt that you are invading all the nations you don't respect.

also, you're not from the US now?

you support those who support pre-emptive strikes so of course this applies to you. being an American has nothing to do with being pro war and anti cuba/north korea like you are. that's u.s. corporation beef, not mine.
 
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janklow;1035591 said:
i don't even know what that means. Castro runs an authoritarian police state and i'm not from Cuba; these things combine to make it illogical that i am going to "go over there with that." and no, i am not "still gone respect it" either.

Authoritarian police state? Most inner citry neighborhoods are run like that. I have been to Cuba, have friends that live there, and the police presence is waaaaaay more docile than in the US.

The oppression you claim to know about is no more than here. We have political prisoners in jails up here too. Matter of fact there are people who are sitting in jails and prisons for no other reason that they were on list compiled by the authorities . They haven't even committed or even been charged with a crime. The media doesn't talk about it but it exist.

Besides, it doesnt matter whether you or I respect Cuba and Castro. They and him gave inspiration and rise to many countries throwing off oppressive right wing regimes in Latin and South America. He and them will and has gone down in history as one of the most significant and influential leaders and movements in history.

Fact.com and Truth.com
 
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musicology1985;1039937 said:
Lets say you are a real baller, like me,

Quit lyin' lmao... u just playin' around at this point lol

complete with blue lambo and what not. So, you have a chance to earn a lucrative paycheck with an oil company, lets say Exxon.

Look man, take whatever job you want. The point is, your background shapes your worldview, so of course your pro establishment and anti-change even though your president is always speaking of it. what a oxymoron lol


See statements like "boost your e-rep"

that's exactly what you were trying to do. ain't no other reason to promote materialism online

and "stand for the establishment....defend that by any means necessary"

this is something you always do......online

are those exact presumptuous ones I was referring to.

it's all true what I said about you and you prove it with the stances you take on issues. anyway man due to this hilarious response I guess we done. you can gone head and take the last word cuz I know you enjoy that part.

You dont pick up on sarcasm very well do you?

I very well could tell you all about what I do have, but that would be silly. Think about it, if I were to brag about a car like that, why would I do it in the Religious forum of all places? Again, if you think I was serious about owning a Lamborghini you are VERY stupid.

I noticed you didnt answer the posed question, again. That makes twice you have dodged, but I'm trying to "wiggle" out of something? Wonder why that is...

From the little you do know about me, you have formed an opinion, an opinion that is based off of things you have "experienced" before. That opinion, is biased at best and just flat out wrong at worst. Example, you have claimed me to be an "oil man" before. As if I have my hands so deep in the oil industry that I support it above all others. Stop assuming you know how a person thinks because you know who they affiliate with or who they work for. Not everyone is the evil boogey man trying to make sure black people dont prosper.
 
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lets do a quick recap since the debates are over

1. Obama folded under white pressure.

2. Whites are the only racists because they created white supremacy racism and are responsible for all reactions to it.

3. Until whites face this fact, they will be criticized.

4. If and when they don't face this fact, others will.

5. White Supremacy WILL BE DESTROYED THIS CENTURY.
 
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musicology1985;1042419 said:
lets do a quick recap since the debates are over

1. Obama folded under white pressure.

2. Whites are the only racists because they created white supremacy racism and are responsible for all reactions to it.

3. Until whites face this fact, they will be criticized.

4. If and when they don't face this fact, others will.

5. White Supremacy WILL BE DESTROYED THIS CENTURY.

6. You dodged two questions. a) Do you believe black people are superior to others? b) Would you turn down a position at an oil company to make sure you stay "anti-establishment"?
 
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musicology1985;1039941 said:
you support those who support pre-emptive strikes so of course this applies to you.
would you like to answer any of my questions? you can start with "do i have to invade a country to not have respect for it?"

musicology1985;1039941 said:
being an American has nothing to do with being pro war and anti cuba/north korea like you are.
it might have something to do with you calling me a "yankee," however.

And Step;1040044 said:
Authoritarian police state? Most inner citry neighborhoods are run like that. I have been to Cuba, have friends that live there, and the police presence is waaaaaay more docile than in the US.
now, are we comparing inner city neighborhoods to the areas of Cuba you visited, or "Cuba as a whole" versus "the US as a whole?" furthermore, whatever criticisms you level at the US government, let's not pretend it's less authoritarian than Cuba. people named Castro have called the shots for how long now?

And Step;1040044 said:
The oppression you claim to know about is no more than here. We have political prisoners in jails up here too.
every country does, but i feel fine declaring us better than Cuba in this regard. but we can disagree.

And Step;1040044 said:
Besides, it doesnt matter whether you or I respect Cuba and Castro.
this i agree with. but see, i'm not the one arguing that people HAVE to respect Castro.

And Step;1040044 said:
He and them will and has gone down in history as one of the most significant and influential leaders and movements in history.
significant != good
 
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musicology1985;1039832 said:
People? What people? You (a tom) Swiffness (half cracker) & janklow (full cracker) are the only real challenges I had and neither of you have proven me wrong on anything and of course, you all have ulterior motives for trying to do so.
says the guy who declares he can't continue debates when he starts to embarrass himself

musicology1985;1042419 said:
lets do a quick recap since the debates are over
translation: "i cannot win a debate so i'll just declare that i win!"
 
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