MAKAVELI25
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illogics;3149123 said:Lets not get outta hand now like Jay aint been killin every feature up until WTT dropped. Short term memory niggas in hip-hop these days.
So Jay has been great in 2011?
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illogics;3149123 said:Lets not get outta hand now like Jay aint been killin every feature up until WTT dropped. Short term memory niggas in hip-hop these days.
lamontbdc;3150300 said:naw game album is good but i'd take WTT allday. we might as well get ready for any album released>>>>>>>>>>>WTT threads
thesynthesis;3151028 said:ofcourse people are going to compare given the OVER HYPE by the media of the WTT,
most agree that wtt is an average album, and kanye outshined jayz
i personally feel RED album has better production and more stand out rap songs where as WTT is a eurocentric album with lazy production and some dope production here and there
Ricky Beat> every beat on WTT....not even close
MAKAVELI25;3151051 said:"Murder to Excellence", "Welcome 2 the Jungle", and "Niggaz in Paris" and have better beats than "Ricky".
thesynthesis;3151028 said:ofcourse people are going to compare given the OVER HYPE by the media of WTT,
most agree that wtt is an average album, and kanye outshined jayz
i personally feel RED album has better production and more stand out rap songs where as WTT is a eurocentric album with lazy production and some dope production here and there
Ricky Beat> every beat on WTT....not even close
and niggas know if the Ricky beat was on WTT, niggas wud be saying its the best beat and song on the album
lamontbdc;3151154 said:can't really agree with that. who cares about media hype except haters. I fuck with the Ricky beat but I wouldn't take it over murder to excellence but probably over the majority of the beats on WTT. And that still doesn't make the Red album better b/c it has one beat better than beats on WTT. You gotta rate the album overall. and overall the album to me falls short of WTT.
and it sounds really stupid to say if this beat was on WTT folks would like it more. shit just makes no sense to me b/c i don't think like that. if i fuck with a beat i fuck with a beat regardless of who is spitting on it or what cd the beat is on. some rappers i don't even like but i end up rocking the song b/c of the beat.
red bout a 2.5/5 WTT 3.5/5 to me i was kinda let down from this red album. folks were talking bout how hot the 1st half of the album was but it was just average like the album as a whole. solid release but nothing all that great. Best thing was Lamar's verse.
thesynthesis;3151206 said:the more exposure an album gets the more it likely to sell and the more people will talk about it...thats the principle of marketing, so lets not play down the benefits over media overhype, it can push wack albums into receiving grammys (word to eminem) and breaking records,
i was personally let down by WTT, Jay wasnt really needed, he brought the value down. Kanye did his job, but production overall was sloppy, the use of autotune was pointless, its like they were trying to grab whatever is commercially hot and mimic the sound, from Diddy's dirty money sound to rozay sound, didnt hear any signature kanye sound...Otis was very sloppy
RED album production was knocking, the mix is clean, mainly because of Dr Dre's people being incharge of it, it has 3 songs which i would skip, but solid effort, still gotta let it marinate, cuz i'm bumping 4 songs mainly, then once ive played them out i'mma give more time to the other songs....Ricky, Mamma Knows, The City and Paramedics is my shit so far
VMW2011;3152690 said:The Homey Synth seems like a solid poster to me
cj012890;3152700 said:^yea he a thug
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lamontbdc;3151154 said:can't really agree with that. who cares about media hype except haters. I fuck with the Ricky beat but I wouldn't take it over murder to excellence but probably over the majority of the beats on WTT. And that still doesn't make the Red album better b/c it has one beat better than beats on WTT. You gotta rate the album overall. and overall the album to me falls short of WTT.
and it sounds really stupid to say if this beat was on WTT folks would like it more. shit just makes no sense to me b/c i don't think like that. if i fuck with a beat i fuck with a beat regardless of who is spitting on it or what cd the beat is on. some rappers i don't even like but i end up rocking the song b/c of the beat.
red bout a 2.5/5 WTT 3.5/5 to me i was kinda let down from this red album. folks were talking bout how hot the 1st half of the album was but it was just average like the album as a whole. solid release but nothing all that great. Best thing was Lamar's verse.
jek;3152867 said:I couldnt disagree with you more here.WHy is it so far fetched when we have a shitload of guys on here that wont even admit that Jay came real soft on this album? Not only do i agree with the sentiment of if it was on WTT...ILL take it a step further and say "I THINK" if Game was JAY Z'S Artist and was maybe from New York or something... people wouldnt be callin him wack. I Think just the fact that Game has had words over the past few years with Jay has alot to do with people not liking his shit as if you cant like both albums. the jigga warriors are just too offended still. the Game could drop some illmatic, ready to die doggystyle and chronic all in one type of shit and i bet alotta these guys in here will just shrug it off talkin bouT "Yeah but he mentioned so and so and he sound like so and so" let this had been j cole doing the same exact album, i promise you it woulda been gettin a more positive reaction.
thesynthesis;3152914 said:every song on this is better than workout...
many jay stans are hating on the album simply because GAME dissed Jay...
then u do have some fans who may not feel the album as much as WTT, but aint hating
thesynthesis;3152914 said:j cole can only dream of putting a dope album out like this...every song on this is better than workout...
if this was j cole debut it wud be labeled a classic
many jay stans are hating on the album simply because GAME dissed Jay...
then u do have some fans who may not feel the album as much as WTT, but aint hating