R.A. should be banned from radio stations

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The 3mcee;3532091 said:
Man this shit got me laughing. Kanye is Hip Hop and so was Hammer and Hip Hop now days is Pop music, unfortunately. Then R.A. said that Will Smith was Hip Hop and then crossed over and so Kanye is kinda the same. I like R.A. but I can't agree with him on this.

In terms of Will Smith, he means lyrically! For Kanye on the lyrical level, at least for me, is suspect if he's actually writing his own!

But Will can do all the family safe movies and all but when it comes to spitting, he turns into the Fresh Prince.
 
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traestar;3534742 said:
In terms of Will Smith, he means lyrically! For Kanye on the lyrical level, at least for me, is suspect if he's actually writing his own!

But Will can do all the family safe movies and all but when it comes to spitting, he turns into the Fresh Prince.

Will Smith doesn't even write though. LOL. I mean earlier in his career he did but he still was about in the same vein as Kanye in my humble opinion. Kanye has gotten a whole lot better over time but he still ain't messing with the heavy weight emcees just like Will Smith back in the day. he wasn't in the same league as Big Daddy Kane, G Rap, Rakim or KRS one
 
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The 3mcee;3547913 said:
Will Smith doesn't even write though. LOL. I mean earlier in his career he did but he still was about in the same vein as Kanye in my humble opinion. Kanye has gotten a whole lot better over time but he still ain't messing with the heavy weight emcees just like Will Smith back in the day. he wasn't in the same league as Big Daddy Kane, G Rap, Rakim or KRS one

But then look at that time and look at now.

I heard from people Will had people write for him, but its rumors. Rhymefest got shine for being Kanye's writer!
 
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stupot0607;3550036 said:
RA has the greatest ever verse in hip hop.......

Lol @ this statement not even being OTT. That said, he definitely got out on the wrong side of the bed that day, I've never heard him sound as close since…
 
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traestar;3548526 said:
But then look at that time and look at now.

I heard from people Will had people write for him, but its rumors. Rhymefest got shine for being Kanye's writer!

It isn't rumors people wrote for Will after he got into acting. Read the credits of the albums homey. I'm sure Rhymefest did help Kanye a lot of The College Dropout. Even Kanye said he helped on a lot of songs.
 
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NothingButTheTruth;3548742 said:
Kanye is definitely hip-hop, and he raps way better than RA ever will.

Lol at Kanye being a better rapper than anyone. Better song making skills yes but lyrical ability no.
 
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kanye hasn't put out a purely hip hop album since graduation

people just need to face it, kanye is now a pop artist with hip hop influence......there is nothing wrong that though, he's still a great artist.......
 
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The 3mcee;3610923 said:
It isn't rumors people wrote for Will after he got into acting. Read the credits of the albums homey. I'm sure Rhymefest did help Kanye a lot of The College Dropout. Even Kanye said he helped on a lot of songs.

Ok I will, because I've heard Nas and Rakim were within the likes of people who wrote for him!
 
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stupot0607;3550036 said:
RA has the greatest ever verse in hip hop.......

I literally JUST said this to my friend then saw you said it. uncommon valor is the best verse I've ever heard, by far. From a technical perspective and every other perspective as well.
 
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R.A. got a point, Hammer was wack no doubt. And nowadays the line is blurred more than ever between hip-hop and pop, and yeah Kanye is hella pop now, he does still come from a mainly hip-hop background but I never really took him serious as an emcee, makes dope music at times and his production skills are top notch, but not that great of an emcee.

The times have changed for sure, back in the day we would have called 90% of the pop rappers today out on that shit nowadays the game is long on money and short on pride for not making wack music.

And while we are talking about it, I remember reading that "Uncommon Valor" was about his pops, it might have been another family member but I am pretty sure it's about his pops.
 
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achewon87;3656151 said:
R.A. got a point, Hammer was wack no doubt. And nowadays the line is blurred more than ever between hip-hop and pop, and yeah Kanye is hella pop now, he does still come from a mainly hip-hop background but I never really took him serious as an emcee, makes dope music at times and his production skills are top notch, but not that great of an emcee.

The times have changed for sure, back in the day we would have called 90% of the pop rappers today out on that shit nowadays the game is long on money and short on pride for not making wack music.

And while we are talking about it, I remember reading that "Uncommon Valor" was about his pops, it might have been another family member but I am pretty sure it's about his pops.

Real SHIT!!!

And yes Uncommon Valor was about his father, he talked about it in an interview, actually go back a few pages and look for the R.A. The Rugged Man thread, its in there....

Actually it might be on here..

[video=youtube;MrktwQys-wQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrktwQys-wQ[/video]
 
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[video=youtube;c6slKqhngQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6slKqhngQ0[/video]

Nah I found it!!
 
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traestar;3656651 said:
[video=youtube;c6slKqhngQ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6slKqhngQ0[/video]

Nah I found it!!

Word, good looking out. I remember this video with his pops.
 
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