DarcSkies777
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shadb33;673822 said:
LOLOL....slept on post
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LOLOL....slept on post
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;676915 said:On a serious note my brother, do you even study the Bible? I thought you were a believer?
The reason why you don't see lions or alligators eating veggies today is because after the flood God gave the command to man and beast that all flesh could be consumed. Prior to the flood man and beast were herbivores. After the flood man and beast became carnivores. I mean this is elementary biblical knowledge my friend.
Elaborate?
check your pm
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;676709 said:Ridiculous. Of course God knew that they would sin. And it does not negate free will. God gave Adam and Eve a test of obedience. They failed that test because they WILLINGLY choose to disobey the command of God.
You do know that the 'bible' does not teach "free will", right? When ‘god’ prophesies or else intends that someone or something to do a particular thing (e.g. ‘he’ foreknown that Adam and Eve would sin), that something does not have the liberty because of this “free will”, to not do what ‘god’ has said.
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Focal Point
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Cwill what's good man?
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c1up;678544 said:Cwill what's good man?
What's up Focust? So you were Nick Fury? OH! Any who, I've been doing pretty good. I'm more of a lurker than poster nowadays. Theses forums aren't how they use to be, you know? So I come around every blue moon. Especially, when I see I'mgoingtoheaven say something ridiculous.
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DoUwant2go2Heaven
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cwill 420;678505 said:You do know that the 'bible' does not teach "free will", right? When ‘god’ prophesies or else intends that someone or something to do a particular thing (e.g. ‘he’ foreknown that Adam and Eve would sin), that something does not have the liberty because of this “free will”, to not do what ‘god’ has said.
Then if free will doesn't exists why is there a judgment?
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Israelites
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the prophecies of the bible has nothing to do with the choice a person makes...
. Yes the LORD knew adam & eve would sin against him, but before they did, he gave them a choice to eat from the tree of life & LIVE or eat of the other tree, (which was Satan) & die.... He forewarned them of their consequences, he didn't force or make them do anything... Matter of fact he told THEM TO EAT OF HIS TREE & LIVE... but THEY chose not to & we've been dying ever since... death wasn't part of the creation it was added due to sin just like the law of animal scarifice was added to the original law of the LORD.
& for the t/s to say the Most High isn't all knowing let's me know he himself has no knowledge or understanding of the Word... if your REALLY trying to get some understanding stop listening to the unlearn & find someone who can show you w/scripture the answers to your questions.
. Yes the LORD knew adam & eve would sin against him, but before they did, he gave them a choice to eat from the tree of life & LIVE or eat of the other tree, (which was Satan) & die.... He forewarned them of their consequences, he didn't force or make them do anything... Matter of fact he told THEM TO EAT OF HIS TREE & LIVE... but THEY chose not to & we've been dying ever since... death wasn't part of the creation it was added due to sin just like the law of animal scarifice was added to the original law of the LORD.
& for the t/s to say the Most High isn't all knowing let's me know he himself has no knowledge or understanding of the Word... if your REALLY trying to get some understanding stop listening to the unlearn & find someone who can show you w/scripture the answers to your questions.
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Punisher__
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ThaChozenWun;676717 said:If he KNEW they'd sin where was the choice? They were destined to sin, nothin could have changed it if he knew they would.
There was no choice.
Humanity was doomed from the initial creation because that's how it was predestined to be.
It was our fate.
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supaman4321
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;678714 said:Then if free will doesn't exists why is there a judgment?
man is given freedom of choice, God is the only being with free will technically, you can't will a rolls royce into being from nothing can you? we're judged on our choices
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Israelites;679344 said:the prophecies of the bible has nothing to do with the choice a person makes...
. Yes the LORD knew adam & eve would sin against him, but before they did, he gave them a choice to eat from the tree of life & LIVE or eat of the other tree, (which was Satan) & die.... He forewarned them of their consequences, he didn't force or make them do anything... Matter of fact he told THEM TO EAT OF HIS TREE & LIVE... but THEY chose not to & we've been dying ever since... death wasn't part of the creation it was added due to sin just like the law of animal scarifice was added to the original law of the LORD.
& for the t/s to say the Most High isn't all knowing let's me know he himself has no knowledge or understanding of the Word... if your REALLY trying to get some understanding stop listening to the unlearn & find someone who can show you w/scripture the answers to your questions.
I have found my answer. I was completely wrong, but there's no harm in that. I found my answer through another web site I occasionally go to, I just couldn't find the scripture to back up anything. Everything I found was only God speaking of His creation and how time would end. Which wasn't for me, knowledge of all, it was only knowledge of His doing. Now that I've been given the scriptures I'm good. It was just basically a thought I was having.
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DoUwant2go2Heaven
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supaman4321;679359 said:man is given freedom of choice, God is the only being with free will technically, you can't will a rolls royce into being from nothing can you? we're judged on our choices
God is Sovereign. He has no one to answer to. Man was created in the image of God, thus we are able to think, feel, and will. All of these actions are freely given to us by God because we are made after His image and likeness. Ans because this is so, we are morally responsible to follow and obey God. This is were the will comes in. We have to ability to either choose to obey God or choose to disobey God. If we had no free will, we would all be mindless robots.
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Punisher__
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;679731 said:God is Sovereign. He has no one to answer to. Man was created in the image of God, thus we are able to think, feel, and will. All of these actions are freely given to us by God because we are made after His image and likeness. Ans because this is so, we are morally responsible to follow and obey God. This is were the will comes in. We have to ability to either choose to obey God or choose to disobey God. If we had no free will, we would all be mindless robots.
What is predestination? Or better yet, can you decipher this verse for me...
Ephesians 1:11 “In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.”
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If we're all doing the "will" of God, then we do not have free will. We're only fulfilling roles that were already planned out for us from the very beginning.
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Focal Point
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cwill 420;678558 said:What's up Focust? So you were Nick Fury? OH! Any who, I've been doing pretty good. I'm more of a lurker than poster nowadays. Theses forums aren't how they use to be, you know? So I come around every blue moon. Especially, when I see I'mgoingtoheaven say something ridiculous.
lol good to hear you're doing well and yeah the Social Lounge and R& R have just fallen off. What else is new though?
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oliverlang
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It's all Eve's fault. Damn women.
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ThaChozenWun
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God is that you? I mean I cant prove god didnt write that so it has to be true.
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His m.o. is to find little ways to dissrespect Black men, Black women and Africa.Chike;686521 said:Wtf is the point of this ridiculous thread?
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